TROMBONE-L Digest 1551 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Party Time! by "Adrian Drover" 2) Re: Arban's by kingbone@earthlink.net 3) Re: Rimsky-korsakov by SOB 3:16 4) Re: Party Time! by Mike Coyle 5) Conn alto trombone by Gary Sloane 6) OOPS! Re: Party Time! by Mike Coyle 7) Re: Party Time! by Chris Waage 8) [Fwd: Rimsky-korsakov (& t-bone websites)] by David Oliver 9) Re: Mutes by Eric and Candice Swanson 10) Lindberg records (was something about Rimsky-Korsakov and 'bones) by "Aaron Roth" 11) A couple of instruments by "Aaron Roth" 12) Re: Lindberg records (was something about Rimsky-Korsakov and 'bones) by David Oliver 13) For Sale by "Melissa Moore" 14) Musicians and Physicians - a clarification by BUNTING N W Dr 15) RE: circular breathing by BUNTING N W Dr 16) RE: STOMVI NEW TROMBONE by BUNTING N W Dr From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:19 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:21:43 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Party Time! Message-ID: <000501bf4f9b$f1c7edc0$03eaabc3@v4v3j2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just in case you've all done enough eating and drinking and wish to exercise your brain cells before getting your chops back in shape, try unscrambling these anagrams. They're all prominent list members. A Guy Soloed Mister Uke Zit Zoom New D.Y. Essay Weighs a Car Hal E. Renamed Have fun, Android Raver Adrian Drover (ADIOS) Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk Business: studio@adios.co.uk www.adios.co.uk From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:19 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:43:30 -0500 From: kingbone@earthlink.net To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Arban's Message-ID: <386645B1.AEB51EDD@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arbans is well worth the price. To be effectively used, find a teacher who will work your butt off with the lip slur and trill exercises. Done at a very slow speed to start, they will build endurance, range and flexibility. It may seem you are wasting your time, but it will be repaid tenfold. And $26 is the price of a novel you will read once and shelve. You'll use the Arban's the rest of your life. Dave Molter Pittsburgh, PA From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:57:20 -0500 From: SOB 3:16 To: DyessJW@hal.lamar.edu Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Rimsky-korsakov Message-ID: <386648F0.7DEF87C3@worldlynx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there any other recordings out for Rimsky-Korsakov : Concerto for Trombone... I am trying to see if I can find one in the nearest CD store Wayne Dyess wrote: > At 10:18 PM -0500 12/22/99, Trmbman@aol.com wrote: > >I happen to be posting this looking for a recording of the Rimsky-Korsakov > >Concerto for Trombone. If you know the artist and title it would greatly be > >appreciated. > > One of my favorites is by list-member, Doug Yeo (bass trombonist with > the Boston Symphony. Doug recorded this particular version with band > ("live") when he was a freshman at Wheaton College. If any of our > students on trombone-L have aspirations to become a professional > trombonist and wonder if they have what it takes, they can compare > their playing to Doug's when he was just about their age. How great > is THAT???? > > In fact, all of "Take 1" was recorded "live" in concert. This lends > a certain "edge" that you don't often hear in recordings today, and > another reason I personally enjoy this particular CD. > > Visit Doug's site to read more about what is included in this wonderful CD: > > http://www.yeodoug.com/take1.html > > I am also somewhat biased since I was the mastering engineer for Doug > on "Take 1." But that doesn't diminish his playing one bit (at > least, I hope not!). > > :-) > > There is also information about ordering at the above link. > > Sincerely and best wishes, > --Wayne Dyess > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ > _/ Wayne Dyess, Ed.D. Tel. +1-409-880-8146 _/ > _/ Lamar University Music Dept. _/ > _/ P.O.Box 10044, Beaumont, TX.77710 _/ > _/ _/ > _/ United Musical Instruments (UMI) _/ > _/ "If it sounds good, it is good." -Duke Ellington _/ > _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > Old trombone players never die; > They just slide away! From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:40:49 -0600 From: Mike Coyle To: slide.rule@adios.co.uk Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Party Time! Message-ID: <199912262042.OAA23083@newton.pconline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Led we on, Android :) Mike Coyle >A Guy Soloed - Douglas Yeo >Mister Uke - Mike Suter >Zit Zoom - Tom Izzo >New D.Y. Essay - Wayne Dyess >Weighs a Car - Chris Waage >Hal E. Renamed - Earl Needham > At 06:21 AM 12/26/99 , you wrote: >Just in case you've all done enough eating and drinking and wish to exercise >your brain cells before getting your chops back in shape, try unscrambling >these anagrams. They're all prominent list members. > >Have fun, Android Raver > >Adrian Drover (ADIOS) >Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk >Business: studio@adios.co.uk >www.adios.co.uk > From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:41:03 -0800 From: Gary Sloane To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Cc: dgk@teklaw.com Subject: Conn alto trombone Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I hope this doesn't end up being a cautionary tale. In October, I arranged to buy a Conn 36B alto trombone advertised on alt.music.trombone by somebody using the email handle KLeonard88@aol.com. He said his name was Keith Leonard and that he'd won the horn at a competition at Rutgers. My check cleared November 1, but since then, I have not received the horn, and there appears to be no reliable way to get in touch with him. (Phones listed in his name in New Jersey appear to belong to other people.) In response to several emails (KLeonard88@aol.com), I received two apologies for the delay and promises that the instrument would be delivered soon. The last one was time-stamped November 30; however, there are all kinds of ways to louse up long distance shipping arrangements -- not always the fault of the sender -- as well as things that can happen to someone on the way to the UPS depot. So: If anybody can help me get in touch with Keith, or otherwise shed some light on this matter, please contact me off-line. Otherwise, best wishes for the holiday season...and yes, I'll be using a 6 1/2AL on a 2B for my NYE gig. ************************************************* * Gary Sloane ERRATA: * * sloane@batnet.com For errata read erratum * ************************************************* From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:49:02 -0600 From: Mike Coyle To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Cc: slide.rule@adios.co.uk Subject: OOPS! Re: Party Time! Message-ID: <199912262050.OAA23311@newton.pconline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Opps! My first line should have been: "Led Lew on, Adrian," That's what I get for bein' in a hurry :) At 02:40 PM 12/26/99 , you wrote: >Led we on, Android :) > >Mike Coyle > > >>A Guy Soloed - Douglas Yeo >>Mister Uke - Mike Suter >>Zit Zoom - Tom Izzo >>New D.Y. Essay - Wayne Dyess >>Weighs a Car - Chris Waage >>Hal E. Renamed - Earl Needham >> > >At 06:21 AM 12/26/99 , you wrote: >>Just in case you've all done enough eating and drinking and wish to exercise >>your brain cells before getting your chops back in shape, try unscrambling >>these anagrams. They're all prominent list members. >> >>Have fun, Android Raver >> >>Adrian Drover (ADIOS) >>Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk >>Business: studio@adios.co.uk >>www.adios.co.uk >> > From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:49:36 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: Party Time! Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Led we on, Android :) > >Mike Coyle > > >>A Guy Soloed - Douglas Yeo >>Mister Uke - Mike Suter >>Zit Zoom - Tom Izzo >>New D.Y. Essay - Wayne Dyess >>Weighs a Car - Chris Waage NOT QUITE A CAR . . . maybe just a few too many spare tires . . .;-) Chris _____________________________________________ Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com http://www.waageworks.com "Wisdom comes from Knowledge. Knowledge comes from Good Judgement. Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement." _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:10:52 -0800 From: David Oliver To: Trombone List Subject: [Fwd: Rimsky-korsakov (& t-bone websites)] Message-ID: <3866CAAC.9DC774DB@access1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------972E4CE027B8CFF4D8DE54D6" I didn't see this make the list, so I thought I'd try again. David Westminster, CO Message-ID: <38666267.C086973F@access1.net> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:45:59 -0800 From: David Oliver X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sobo@worldlynx.net CC: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Rimsky-korsakov (& t-bone websites) References: <0.eebadecf.2592ee6d@aol.com> <386648F0.7DEF87C3@worldlynx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's the day after Christmas (and a Sunday I might add), so I spent some time looking at websites, and I think I've come up with something for you. I went to both the Lindberg (and his BIS recording label site) and Alessi websites to see what was up. I found that right now Joe Alessi doesn't have a CD out with the composition, but Lindberg does on his "All the Lonely People" CD (BIS-CD-568). It also contains other concertos for trombone and orchestra. If you can afford two of his CD's, I'd also recommend the "Romantic Trombone Concertos" CD (BIS-CD-378). Joe Alessi's "Slide Area" is another good one to have. I think it's his first solo CD. From looking at Joe's site, I saw that he did a recording with the Colorado Symphony (Rouse Concerto), so I may be ordering it very soon. I've seen the Colorado (lister & bass trombone guy Greg Harper, et al.) 4 times this year. They were even on one of the PBS stations here last night, so I guess that makes five. I've seen both Alessi and Lindberg live at Colorado University over the past 1 1/2 years, so I've been one very lucky trombone player. I think they are both virtuoso players, but with their own unique styles and sounds. I did a review of Doug Yeo's "Take 1" CD, which included the Rimsky, but to date it is still the only version of that piece I've heard. I guess I was a bad reviewer by not being more familiar with the piece then. How to order all of these CD's? You may find one or two Lindberg CD's at the record store, but the way to do it is to get it from a place like Hickey's: http://www.hickeys.com The "big guys" like cdnow, cduniverse, etc. might have some, but Hickeys carries a ton of trombone CD's (and studies, and music, etc.). It is sort of a one-stop shop. Be warned that Lindberg CD's aren't cheap, and run around $20 no matter where you buy them from. In case you want to check out their website's. the Linderg site (with a link to his label) is: http://www.tarrodi.se/lindberg/index.html The Alessi site is: http://www.slidearea.com Happy hunting! If others know of more R-K recordings, I know that I'd like to find out. David Oliver Westminster, Colorado USA Bass/Tenor Trombone, Denver Concert Band P.S. I've figured out at least who "weighs a car" is! (Initials C.W.) - see the "Party Time!" post. SOB 3:16 wrote: > Are there any other recordings out for Rimsky-Korsakov : Concerto for > Trombone... I am trying to see if I can find one in the nearest CD store > > Wayne Dyess wrote: > > > At 10:18 PM -0500 12/22/99, Trmbman@aol.com wrote: > > >I happen to be posting this looking for a recording of the Rimsky-Korsakov > > >Concerto for Trombone. If you know the artist and title it would greatly be > > >appreciated. > > > > One of my favorites is by list-member, Doug Yeo (bass trombonist with > > the Boston Symphony. Doug recorded this particular version with band > > ("live") when he was a freshman at Wheaton College... From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:26:03 +0000 From: Eric and Candice Swanson To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Mutes Message-ID: <386687EA.80278B5B@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steven Marquardt wrote: > What mutes should I have, being a student who plays both jazz and classical > music? I have a harmon mute, a stone lined straight, cup, and bucket mute, and > a plunger from the store. Is there any others that I might run into in high > school literature? > Steve, Those should do it, but I'd suggest getting a better straight mute. Something like a Tom Crown or Denis Wick would be a much better straight mute than the stone lined. Eric Swanson From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:58:31 PST From: "Aaron Roth" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Lindberg records (was something about Rimsky-Korsakov and 'bones) Message-ID: <19991227035831.50682.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Be warned that Lindberg CD's aren't cheap, and run around $20 no >matter >where you buy them from. Ah Hah!! Try http://www.Music1Search.com for an amazing database that **supplies links** directly to places like cdconnection.com for super-convenient purchasing. I saw the Solitary Trombone for about $17.50 either through Music1Search or at Amazon.com. I now own that cd because of the price. Also, for those on the search for the avant-garde and other 20th-Century styles, here is a place that carries such rarely found composers as VarŽse, Penderecki, Xenakis, Crumb, and Cage. Some cds go for under $10, which is rare for any genre, much less the modern style; by that same token, there are $50 imports of similar quality. I guess the point is, if you look hard enough then SoMeThInG will turn up. -Aaron R. | /| | _ / | | ___________________/---/ | | / | | / __________________ | | / / _||_ || \---\_ | || / /King\ || \ | | \ \ \3B-F/ || \| | \ \__||______||______________________________________ | \___________________________________________________ \ | | | | | ___ \ \ | |ø---- __|_|____|_|_________________________\_/ / | | }_____________________________________<>_/ | |_---- Pet Peeves: ATM Machine = automated teller machine machine PIN Number = personal identification number number HIV Virus = Human Immunodeficiency Virus Virus Rio Grande River = River Big River Sierra Nevada Mountains = Mountains Snowy Mountains (Mail suggestions to: ) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:03:55 PST From: "Aaron Roth" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: A couple of instruments Message-ID: <19991227050355.73343.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List: Does anyone happen to know of the location of a maker of an Ondes Martenot or a theremin? Those familiar with VarŽse or Messaien will know of these as they both used them at one time or another in their works. I understand that kits for theremins were available in the past, but apparently they are no longer made in mass quantities. I wonder if I should try to spark a discussion on the use of electronic instruments as substitutes for acoustic instruments versus the use of such devices as independent musical instruments of distinctive tone-color in their own right.... OTC: Also, does anyone know where I can maybe find a good shot of a contrabass 'bone on the web? I'm looking mostly for a BBb close-up, but any contrabass will work. I just intend to use the trombone for my desktop wallpaper. ;) -Aaron Roth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:32:43 -0800 From: David Oliver To: bassrange@hotmail.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Lindberg records (was something about Rimsky-Korsakov and 'bones) Message-ID: <3867080B.41AE7FBD@access1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! Aaron's passed on some great info. "cdconnection.com" has the Lindberg "All the Lonely people CD" for $15.65 - not bad at all. I'm sold. David Oliver Westminster, CO USA Aaron Roth wrote: > >Be warned that Lindberg CD's aren't cheap, and run around $20 no >matter > >where you buy them from. > > Ah Hah!! Try http://www.Music1Search.com for an amazing database that > **supplies links** directly to places like cdconnection.com for > super-convenient purchasing... From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:40:14 -0600 From: "Melissa Moore" To: Cc: Subject: For Sale Message-ID: <000f01bf502c$da7be900$4fae423f@mmoore> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF4FFA.8EF80360"
 
 
 
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 From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:34:59 -0000 From: BUNTING N W Dr To: Trombone-L Subject: Musicians and Physicians - a clarification Message-ID: <17FD488B2E65D311B4EE009027AA4C3BB28C@PCGSERV1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It has become clear that my previous postings did not make it clear the purposes of my request; so: I'm a General Practitioner (for the US: Family Physician, or Specialist in Family Medicine) in Boston (the original one, in Lincolnshire, England) . I'm also a trombonist, with enthusiasm if not virtuosity! The request for info was born out of reading some of the threads regarding tennis elbows/tendonitis and realising that the advice given to a professional trombonist is obviously different to that to an office worker and that some of the advice may not be appropriate; I then posted the request. Aims: (a) NOT to provide individual advice (legal, confidentiality, malpractice issues...) (b) TO provide a useful resource for trombonists wishing to self-treat (& I suppose other players), for physicians, and for other therapists. There is little published on the specific healthcare needs of trombonists / musicians in general, hence the plea for help. Confidentiality statement: Anything sent to me will be treated as strictly confidential. Any information that could be used to identify persons will changed or removed. Wishing you all a happy and healthy 2000, Nick Bunting BMedSci BM BS Registered Medical Practitioner Boston, Lincolnshire, UK From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:34:58 -0000 From: BUNTING N W Dr To: Trombone-L Subject: RE: circular breathing Message-ID: <17FD488B2E65D311B4EE009027AA4C3BB28B@PCGSERV1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The e-BMJ is the electronic version of the BMJ (British Medical Journal), the official organ of the BMA (British medical assoc.). This article appeared in the Christmas issue, which is set aside for the more light-hearted articles. Previous Xmas issues have included such gems as "are Orthopaedic Surgeons Gorillas?". Don't take this article seriously - even doctors have a sense of humour :-) Wishing all a happy and healthy 2000, regards, Nick Bunting > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Dyess [mailto:DyessJW@hal.lamar.edu] > Sent: 24 December 1999 02:11 > To: BUNTING_NW@gp-c83057.nhs.uk > Subject: Re: Musicians and Physicians > > > That site that I just posted (circular breathing) was the British > Medical Society, or something like that. > > Safe Sax.... interesting stuff... and relative to all > instrumentalists. Let me know if you find anything there of interest. > > --Wayne Dyess > > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ > _/ Wayne Dyess, Ed.D. Tel. +1-409-880-8146 _/ > _/ Lamar University Music Dept. _/ > _/ P.O.Box 10044, Beaumont, TX.77710 _/ > _/ _/ > _/ United Musical Instruments _/ > _/ "If it sounds good, it is good." -Duke Ellington _/ > _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > Old trombone players never die; > They just slide away! > From ???@??? Mon Dec 27 10:34:20 1999 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:43:40 -0000 From: BUNTING N W Dr To: Trombone-L Subject: RE: STOMVI NEW TROMBONE Message-ID: <17FD488B2E65D311B4EE009027AA4C3BB28D@PCGSERV1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I haven't seen a Stomvi trombone, but they make a beautiful Gold plated (yes, real gold, real plate) trumpet. Gold plated instruments are not for students, surely? I wouldn't write it off quite so readily... About Stomvi; as far as I can remember: I think they're Spanish, 2 brothers, one a jeweller (hence the gold, I s'pose) the other an instrument repairer/maker. This is 2nd hand info, may be _completely_ inaccurate! wishing all a happy 2000 regards, Nick Bunting > -----Original Message----- > From: Toru Ichizuka [mailto:ichizuka@hj.jvc-victor.co.jp] > Sent: 24 December 1999 08:52 > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Subject: Fw: STOMVI NEW TROMBONE > > > Hi folks! > > Original massage > Tom Izzo > sub:Re: STOMVI NEW TROMBONE > > > > Toru, > > > > > Hi folks! > > > > > > Does anyone know STOMBI's trombone? > > > > STOMVI is a student line at best, along the lines of > Blessing, Amati & > > Cervenny brands. If you take care of it, it cfould do you > well, but the > > student line-type instruments tend to be stuffier & not as > well made as > the > > Pro-line companies: Conn, Bach, King, Benge, Getzen, etc. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > I got this information form japanese retailer. > > > > > > spec; > > > bore:13.89mm > > > bell:yellow brass > > > f section:open wrap, short stroke trigger ********************************** > > > finish:gold plated ********************************** this is not gold brass, this is gold-plate. > > > > > > release:Nov. /99 > > > > > > thanks. > > > > > > **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** > > > TORU ICHIZUKA > > > ichizuka@hj.jvc-victor.co.jp > > > **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** > > > > > > > > > > >