TROMBONE-L Digest 1529 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) The whole flying thing by JennWhaa@aol.com 2) Re: Too bad about King + the great Freeze Off! by Nick Drozdoff 3) Re: The whole flying thing by Steve Butterworth 4) Re: A Little Self Promotion - Skip This one, If you Wish. by Nick Drozdoff 5) Re: The whole flying thing by Chris Waage 6) Non-musical Personal Choices by Chris Waage 7) Re: Dale's dilema (semi-long) by JennWhaa@aol.com 8) Re: The whole flying thing by Dennis Clason 9) Re: The whole flying thing by Chris Waage 10) Re: The whole flying thing by d.huettenbach@ndh.com (Detlef Huettenbach) 11) thanks to you all by Dale 12) Flying with Carry-On by Larry & Carol Bronisz 13) Summer festivals by Tbcwes@aol.com 14) January Recital- Vancouver area by "Kenneth Pearce" 15) Most played orchestral pieces resource? by Posaune9@aol.com 16) RE: Conical Bore Trombones by Eric Burger 17) Fountains of Rome by Beth Lewis From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 09:32:08 EST From: JennWhaa@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: The whole flying thing Message-ID: <0.6cde66af.257a7fe8@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello out there. Like many on this list, I have had an airplane horror story. I flew TWA last week. When checking in my Edwards bass in the hard case stuffed full of clothes to pad the inevitable "knocking around" that must happen on airplanes, I was informed that they do not have Fragile stickers. What kind of an airline doesn't have fragile stickers? I guess no one ever takes anything fragile on TWA. Anyhow, when we were de-planing, I was pretty far back so I had time to watch the people outside taking our luggage out and throw it. As you may have guessed, I watched them heave my horn about 5 feet. I was sure that there had been some damage. Luckily I was wrong. I just feel so helpless when it coems to flying with my horn. Is there any alternative? Jen From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:43:12 -0600 From: Nick Drozdoff To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Too bad about King + the great Freeze Off! Message-ID: <3849287D.31FCA61B@interaccess.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just thought I'd put in my $.02 worth here, but I was saddened to hear of Robert King's passing (Doug Yeo's post). Personally, I am more focused on what his legacy is rather than on his being gone. I have so many of his arrangements in my brass choir collection. His impact on my work will continue for the duration of my career. I'll always be grateful for that. Now to the great freeze off. I'm sure all of you are aware of the new trend in cryogenic treatment of brass instruments and the controversy surrounding the efficacy of this treatment. Well, the trumpeter list has taken up the challenge of scientifically testing this in a moderately foraml fashion. Wayne Tanabe, owner of the Brass Bow near Chicago has a cryo treatment tank. He has obtained four professional quality trumpets ranging from lightweight to boat anchors. He has enlisted three professional trumpeters (myself, Mark Ponzo of NIU and John Hagstrom of the CSO) and one VERY competent amatuer (Stanton Kramer of the Chicago area, an excellent musician and trumpeter as wellas a fine photographer, his chosen field). I played the horns yesterday and filled out a brief questionaire on each. Next they'll be shipped to Washington DC where John Lynch will perform a spectrum analysis on each instrumet using his on salpingometer. He will produce a set of FFT's on each instrument. All of this will occur BEFORE freezing. I.E., the horns I played yesterday weren't treated yet. After Lynch has done the preliminary analysis, the horns will be shipped back to Wayne who will freeze SOME of the horns, but not all! I think he is going to freeze all but one, but I am honestly not certain of that. After that, the same players will come out and replay each instrument and fill out the same questionaire. As before, Lynch will collect FFT's on the treated insruments. If the processs works, we should all be able to tell some sort of difference. If it doesn't work, we should see any detectable difference. Now obviously, a sample of four horns is small, but it's a start. Have you trombone players done a test such as this? Want to get in on it? Try contacting Wayne Tanabe at the Brass Bow. If you are interested, I'll keep you updated. TTFN Nick Drozdoff http://www.mp3.com/NickDrozdoff From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 09:46:20 -0500 From: Steve Butterworth To: JennWhaa@aol.com, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: The whole flying thing Message-ID: <3849293B.8D14AB52@istar.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many horn repair technicians are cutting horn bells because of the new airline regulations and I do know several trombonists who have cut their bells as well. There are flat cases that the airlines will allow you to carry on. While I wouldn't want to have my own cut, it might be an option for some. When I travel on business, I take my Alto Trombone. Its the only time it actually gets used! Generally speaking, you should take your instrument to special services and they will put it in a plastic bin. It should then be hand carried into the terminal and placed beside the belt. I fly 30 round trips/year and have never had a problem, even with my BBb tuba! Just luck I guess. Steve JennWhaa@aol.com wrote: > Hello out there. Like many on this list, I have had an airplane horror story. > > I flew TWA last week. When checking in my Edwards bass in the hard case stuffed full of clothes to pad the inevitable "knocking around" that must happen on airplanes, I was informed that they do not have Fragile stickers. What kind of an airline doesn't have fragile stickers? I guess no one ever takes anything fragile on TWA. Anyhow, when we were de-planing, I was pretty far back so I had time to watch the people outside taking our luggage out and throw it. As you may have guessed, I watched them heave my horn about 5 feet. I was sure that there had been some damage. Luckily I was wrong. I just feel so helpless when it coems to flying with my horn. Is there any alternative? > > Jen From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:58:19 -0600 From: Nick Drozdoff To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: A Little Self Promotion - Skip This one, If you Wish. Message-ID: <38492C09.F0304FB4@interaccess.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have just released my third MP3.com CD. However, this one has no trombone work on it. Nevertheless, I post this notice here to my comrades at arms in the brass world, just in case any of you might be interested. The DAM-CD is titled "Player Piano!" It loosely qualifies as Acid Jazz. The url is... http://www.mp3.com/NickDrozdoff. My next two project will feature lot's of euphonium work. I just got my hands on an old Besson that plays really well. I'll post a notice here when I get some free CD quality downloads put up at the site. More on that later. Thanks for your indulgence. TTFN Nick Drozdoff From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 08:59:57 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: The whole flying thing Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One alternative would be to use either the U.S. Postal Service, UPS or Federal Express and their overnight or express services. However, the cost could be prohibitive - $70 to $100, depending upon the size of the package, weight, and value. So far, I have never had a UPS Red (next day) or Federal Express Next-Day package damaged in shipping - I routinely ship computers all over the United States. I haven't used the U.S. Postal Service for this. PLEASE NOTE: I have had SEVERAL packages shipped via UPS ground arrive looking like they detoured through Chechnya. "FRAGILE" to the UPS cargo handlers is an ancient Outer Mongolian word meaning "Bet You Can't Throw Me 10 Feet In The Air." You could save a few bucks with UPS or FedEx by shipping it Blue (second day) or Ground (up to five BUSINESS days - holidays and weekends don't count). Also, UPS has suspended all guaranteed delivery times EXCEPT for UPS Red (next day) until after Christmas, so you could pay the extra money for UPS Blue (second day) and not get it for five. A second alternative would be to purchase a second seat on the airline - they would love you, but that's probably financially out of the question. Chris >Hello out there. Like many on this list, I have had an airplane horror >story. > >I flew TWA last week. When checking in my Edwards bass in the hard case >stuffed full of clothes to pad the inevitable "knocking around" that must >happen on airplanes, I was informed that they do not have Fragile >stickers. What kind of an airline doesn't have fragile stickers? I guess >no one ever takes anything fragile on TWA. Anyhow, when we were >de-planing, I was pretty far back so I had time to watch the people >outside taking our luggage out and throw it. As you may have guessed, I >watched them heave my horn about 5 feet. I was sure that there had been >some damage. Luckily I was wrong. I just feel so helpless when it coems >to flying with my horn. Is there any alternative? > >Jen _____________________________________________ Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com http://www.waageworks.com "Wisdom comes from Knowledge. Knowledge comes from Good Judgement. Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement." _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 09:14:46 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Non-musical Personal Choices Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The thread about homosexuality has been quite interesting, and of course, I've got to toss my $0.02 in . . . Over the 20 or so years I've been playing gigs, I have played with all manner of individuals - gay, straight, single, married, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Catholic, Protestant, Atheist, Agnostic, sober, alcoholic - you name it. These all fall into non-musical factors that may or may not affect your performance. Of these, alcoholic is about the only one that would directly affect performance. The rest SHOULDN'T matter, but often do. The only thing I do that advertises my sexuality is wear a wedding ring, but I often talk about my wife and kids, so it is probably assumed that I am heterosexual (FLAMING heterosexual, I've been told - I have 3 kids, and #4 is pending download ;-) Should it matter? Nope. Does it? Sometimes. Discrimination comes in all forms. I was discriminated against in grade school - "That fat kid can't run - you get him for YOUR team." "NO! I don't want him, you take him!" When I moved from Missouri to Texas, I was a Yankee (yeah, the Civil War had been over for 110+ years, but it still mattered to some people!). When I moved back to Missouri, I was still an "outsider." It took several years before I really felt a part of the area (although I still consider my home state as Texas). You can handle it two ways - you can either get mad about it and fight, or just develop an "I'm not going to let someone's opinion become my reality" attitude. Yeah, you'll run into jerks who will say mean things - "...words will never hurt me..." ....but they do. Hate-filled individuals will do whatever they can to FIND that hot-spot, the one thing that will cut to the bone. One of the "joys" I have from living in Topeka, Kansas, is that I periodically encounter Fred Phelps and his merry band picketing some business or church with his "God Hates Fags" signs. (For those who are lucky enough never to have seen this creature, he "pastors" a "church" in the Topeka area and pickets any business or church he feels condones homosexual behavior.) There are ignorant people everywhere who feel you have to make an issue of every difference, when in reality, it is those differences which make each of us an individual. Should, as a musician, someone hide their sexual orientation? That's his or her choice. You must follow the path which is right for you. Chris _____________________________________________ Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com http://www.waageworks.com "Wisdom comes from Knowledge. Knowledge comes from Good Judgement. Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement." _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:14:00 EST From: JennWhaa@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Dale's dilema (semi-long) Message-ID: <0.be67cc37.257a89b8@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Like most people, I have also seen and felt discrimination. Personally I have been discriminated against because I am a woman(that is an entirely separate post altogether). Regardless of what the "problem" is, I think the hardest thing to remember is that there is nothing wrong with you - you can't change who you are and why should you want to? People are losing out when they discriminate - they are the ones with the problem. This brings up something for me that I spend a lot of time thinking about. I am a female brass player and we all know that there is still a stigma about female brass players out there. Bringing this up seems to make people uncomfortable. No one really enjoys spending anytime talking about this issue but I am going to throw it out there. Now, I firmly believe that the best overall player should win the job/gig regardless of gender (or race, religion, sexuality, etc.) - I don't think that anyone should get special privileges. But what I have seen and heard about happening is that many women, of equal or better musicianship as their male counterparts, get passed over. For example, I had a chance to hang out with some of LA's top studio musicians this summer. A top call trumpet player said that female brass players are practically non-existent and that, even though the trumpet player recommends capable female players for gigs and recording dates, they are rarely called. I h! ! ave to ask myself frequently if I am ready and willing to deal with these types of things for the rest of my trombone playing life. I guess that is a decision that each of us has to make especially if we want things to change. So, Dale, I hear you! It may seem dismal but count on the fact that not everyone is like this! Jen From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 08:33:35 MST From: Dennis Clason To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: The whole flying thing Message-ID: <199912041532.IAA27720@nestor.NMSU.Edu> Addressed to: JennWhaa@aol.com trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu ** Reply to note from JennWhaa@aol.com 12/04/99 09:32am EST > Hello out there. Like many on this list, I have had an airplane horror story. > > I flew TWA last week. When checking in my Edwards bass in the hard case > stuffed full of clothes to pad the inevitable "knocking around" that must > happen on airplanes, I was informed that they do not have Fragile stickers. > What kind of an airline doesn't have fragile stickers? Buy your own. And while you're at it, get something more suitable than the Edwards case. If you're going to be traveling much, your instrument deserves it. > I guess no one ever takes anything fragile on TWA. Anyhow, when we were > de-planing, I was pretty far back so I had time to watch the people outside > taking our luggage out and throw it. As you may have guessed, I watched them > heave my horn about 5 feet. I was sure that there had been some damage. > Luckily I was wrong. I just feel so helpless when it coems to flying with my > horn. Is there any alternative? Walking. But you have leave earlier. A lot earlier : ) Most of us don't have the qualifications for walking across oceans, either. Seriously, there are always alternatives to flying. John Madden (the football coach/ color commentator) hated flying. He was ready to quit working for CBS, when someone suggested he get a bus instead. Now he drives from game to game in a custom motor coach. He was probably safer in the airplane, and there are serious time trade-offs too. But Madden is happier in his motor coach than he was in hotels and airplanes. Obviously, the big trade-off for any alternative is TIME. You can fly across the Atlantic in six hours, or you can take a boat and cruise across in six days. You can fly from Boston to LA in about five hours, or take Amtrak and get there in three or four days. If you're not willing to trade the time, protect your horn properly. We've discussed it endlessly. Get an Anvil case for your baby, or get a Walt Johnson case. Get a good gig bag and an SKB club case. Do what Doug does -- fit a foam cone into the bell and strategically place padding into your Edwards case. Buy a couple of "Fragile -- Musical Instrument!" "Do Not Drop" stickers for the case. It's your call: you're the one paying the money, so you get to make the choices. Dennis -- Dennis L. Clason email: dclason@nmsu.edu Department of Economics / University Statistics Center New Mexico State University Las Cruces, New Mexico USA From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:12:01 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: The whole flying thing Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don't forget insurance . . . make the airline pay if they break it. Take photos of the case and instrument on a regular basis so that you can defend your position should something happen. CYA - Cover Your, er, Assets ;-) According to Edwards, their cases are "Flight Certified." To me, that means they will fly quite nicely. Then again, it's not usually the flight that causes the problem. It's the sudden stop after it's flown through the air. Chris _____________________________________________ Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com http://www.waageworks.com "Wisdom comes from Knowledge. Knowledge comes from Good Judgement. Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement." _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 18:07:54 +0100 From: d.huettenbach@ndh.com (Detlef Huettenbach) To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu ("Trombones and related issues forum") Subject: Re: The whole flying thing Message-ID: <1e2atzp.18hllnnhms8mM@port207.bonn.ndh.net> Hi Jen, > Hello out there. Like many on this list, I have had an airplane horror story. > I flew TWA last week... My rules of a thumb: Get a good gig bag: even for bass trombones there are suitable non-monstrous ones that can be carried on the shoulder or better: on the back as a rucksack. And *do* wear it that way upon check-in. 2nd: don't let you be intimitated by a bad airline staff and simply insist upon carrying it with you into the passenger area. My bag is a huge one: about 90cm long and 30cm thick, and I still managed to store it in the passenger store cabinets of even the fullest airplanes and worst airlines. Lastly, whenever there's some discussion with the staff necessary, I tell them that straight away. It always worked by now for me. (Needless to say that I'll never voluntarily book a flight of that airline again whose staff went into a discussion with me upon that matter?) Good Luck, Detlef. From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:01 1999 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 11:27:34 -0600 From: Dale To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: thanks to you all Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Trombone Friends, I got an overwhelming amount of mail in response to my questions about being gay. Most were very generous and supportive. Even the ones which were not overtly supportive were tolerant, and that sort of confirms my belief that most intelligent people are going to have open minds about the subject. I agree with Wes that ostentatious, "in-your-face", leopard-skin queens are very objectionable. I don't think that has as much to do with being gay as it does being obsessed with being different and "proud" of it. I, and the overwhelming majority of homosexuals, do not support that behavior at all. Most of us blend in so well you may never know we're here :) Anyway, I just want to thank all of you who responded. Your efforts are very appreciated and were quite helpful. I have a friend on this list and we have discussed the responses at length and were both pleasantly surprised by the tone of most of the letters. OK, gotta go practice. Thanks again. Dale From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:02 1999 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 17:04:02 -0700 From: Larry & Carol Bronisz To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Flying with Carry-On Message-ID: <4.1.19991204165053.00b3a3e0@mail.trail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I received the following tips from Dennis Wilson of the Carnegie Hall Jazz Band Trombones backstage at the ITF in Boulder ('98) When planning to carry your horn onto an airline flight he recommended the following: 1. Dress Nicely. 2. Show Up early. 3. Talk pleasantly to the gate agent and let them know what you are carrying on. 4. Utter the Magic Words: "You know, I realized that when I'm on time you're on time!" - this phrase causes airline personnel to melt, especially when accompanied by steps 1-3. Also: minimize other carry-ons. The first time I tried it the gate agent broke into a big smile, handed me free drink coupons, and was sooooooooo very pleasant. Dennis's backup plan: Get a golf case. - Larry From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:02 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 19:30:17 EST From: Tbcwes@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Summer festivals Message-ID: <0.67a3ea96.257b0c19@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends, I am interested in your opinions on great summer programs. I am a junior at a conservatory for music. If I must classify myself, I would say I am above the average collegiate trombonist. Though I have been asked to play what one might consider a professional gig or two, I do not consider myself to be a pro or anywhere near it - yet! My intentions are to audition for the following: Tanglewood Music Center Music Academy of the West National Orchestral Institute National Repertoire Orchestra Aspen Music Festival Pacific Music Festival I have done some music festivals in the past. They will remain nameless to avoid biased remarks (if you think the ones I have done are crap, let me hear it). If anyone has something to add to my list please fire away! Thanks. -Wes From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:02 1999 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 18:04:53 -0800 From: "Kenneth Pearce" To: "Trombone-L" Subject: January Recital- Vancouver area Message-ID: <199912050209.VAA25966@hme0.mailrouter02.sprint.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listmembers, Here is a plug for an upcoming recital in Vancouver, BC. Greg Passamore, principal trombone of the Vancouver Island Symphony, and I will be performing a combined trombone recital. It will be at Christ Church Cathedral at 7 pm on Sunday, January 9. It will feature Eric Ewazen's trombone sonata and bass trombone concerto, as well as the Siekmann concerto, some of the Shostakovich duets arranged by Doug Yeo, and other trombone works. Admission will be $5 at the door. (Could this be the first trombone recital of the new millenium? :^) Hope to see you there. Kenneth Pearce Vancouver, BC kbpearce@sprint.ca From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:02 1999 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 01:34:27 EST From: Posaune9@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Most played orchestral pieces resource? Message-ID: <0.aa2376a9.257b6173@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear list, Does anyone know how or where to obtain a list of the most programmed orchestral pieces? Ryan Johnstone Curtis Institute of Music Philadelphia, PA (215) 496-9266 From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:02 1999 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 09:19:05 +-100 From: Eric Burger To: "'Steve Butterworth'" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Conical Bore Trombones Message-ID: <01BF3F63.A2C820C0@fra-pci-laj-vty5.as.wcom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I will do a breif discription of the Cortereir conical trombone, and why it differs from a normal or even dual bore horn. The bore is truly conical in first. From the mouthpiece, the tubing continues into the inner slide. this slide has a slightly increasing bore until the stockings. Since only the stockings make contact with the outer slide, the fact that the innerslide is narrow doesn't have an effect. The outer slide is a straight tube, but the bow at the end of the slide in flared. The outer slide from the first length becomes an inner slide for the next length. This inner slide is also flared, with the stockings being the only part to contact with the outerslide. which is fixed. The bell branch continues the flare to bell. ---------- From: Steve Butterworth[SMTP:stevenb@istar.ca] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:53 AM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Conical Bore Trombones By conical bore trombones, do you guys mean dual bore horns? Or is this something with a dual bore slide and an exagerated bell flare? There are a number of what could be considered conical bore trombones on the market. They are most notably German type trombones with dual bore slides and larger bell sections. I know of a number of bass trombonists who play dual bore Edwards trombones. Yamaha has started making a series of German trombones for the European market that are dual bore with the rotor at the back of the bell section. The problem with German trombones for most of us is that the spacial set-up does not resemble a typical trombone therefore it is difficult to switch(Bell is usually cloder to your nose than we're used to).The Yamaha has "standard" proportions with a German sound. There are more and more conductors asking the trumpets to play Rotary valve trumpets. Are we next? Is anyone aware of other manufacturers designing and building German trombones in this fashion? I have tried a couple and they are very nice horns, especially for Brahms, Bruckner, Beethoven and especially if the trumpets are playing rotary valve trumpets. Just some Thursday night ramblings. Steve From ???@??? Mon Dec 06 08:17:02 1999 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: Beth Lewis To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Fountains of Rome Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In preparing this (1st part) for a school ensemble placement audition, I've noticed that the individual trombone parts AND the score (all by Ricordi) each have their own very unique takes on placement/inclusion of hairpins (crescendi/decrescendi) that would would make little sense if played literally in an ensemble/sectional situation. How literally should one take the ink when preparing a single part for an audition and would it reflect well on one's knowledge of the piece to play with the same hairpins/dynamics as indicated in the other parts and score (same edition)? In addition to the hairpin dilemma, some accents and dynamics are left out in the 1st part, but those are pretty obvious and probably don't merit discussion here. Also, is Ricordi the only company that publishes this? (and I thought Kalmus was bad...) Thanks, Beth Lewis Indiana U.