Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Who's playing this LA area gig? (Stan Brager) 2. Re: equipment question (Chris Tune) 3. Re: equipment question (David W. Buckley) 4. Re: equipment question (Gabriel Langfur) 5. Re: equipment question (Gabriel Langfur) 6. Re: equipment question (Jeff Albert) 7. Re: equipment question (jkbone5723@cox.net) 8. Shires Bass Trombone For Sale (Nicholas Roberts) 9. Re: equipment question (Jono) 10. Looking for 2 or 3 horn chart - "FINS" (Moran, Doug) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:29:24 -0800 From: "Stan Brager" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Who's playing this LA area gig? To: "Bonemaster" , Message-ID: <001201c87d5c$91f40210$6401a8c0@Trombonisaurus> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Bob; I just spoke to the secretary at the church. She said that there is no music events scheduled for this week. However, there is a "Shepherd's Conference" for this week which costs $300 to attend. There may be music at this conference. Would you like me to check on this event? Stan Stan Brager Trombonist-in-Training ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonemaster" To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:29 AM Subject: [Trombone-l] Who's playing this LA area gig? > Fellow Listers, > > One more time...I'll be in Los Angeles this Wednesday->Friday at a church > on > Roscoe Blvd. in Sun Valley. This is an annual thing and there is always an > orchestra hired for it. > > If you've been or know who has been contracted to play at Grace Community > Church on Roscoe Blvd., please let me hear from you. > > Thanks very much! > > Bob Devine > Roswell/Atlanta, GA > An 'All Shires' family > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:08:39 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: "'Gregory Campbell'" , "'Dick Sleeman'" Cc: 'Trombone-List' Message-ID: <008001c87d83$87986b40$cc01a8c0@WesternStudioService.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think for the Rimsky Korsakoff and the Rachmaninoff you can drink something darker like a very high quality Porter or Stout (your choice as to whether you like a sweetened or an Irish style stout). But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay Peres Trappist Ale. No more than one bottle for the Strav. You want to be fresh when you get to the riiiiipppppppp! At the end. Chris -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] On Behalf Of Gregory Campbell Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:18 AM To: Dick Sleeman Cc: Trombone-List Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question one bach 42 and one bach 5G and a six pack of beer always seems to work just fine for me for every concert and situation. Though sometimes I drink different beers. :-) Gregory Campbell On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dick Sleeman wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Buckley" > To: "trombone list" > Sent: Friday 29 February 2008 22:43 > Subject: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > My community orchestra is doing Night on Bald Mountain, Rachmaninoff 2nd piano > > concerto and Firebird Suite on our next program. > > > > I plan on using ny 88h with the Doug Elliot G cup and shank for the > > Moussourski and the Rachmaninoff but should I lighten up a bit for the > > Stravinsky? I could stay with the 88h but with and F cup or go to my Bach 36 > > also with the F cup. > > Should one really use a different horn/mouthpiece for every other piece? > > How many different horns/mouthpieces should one own to be prepared? > > Respectfully asked (but with tong in cheek :-)) > > Dick Sleeman > > dick@sleeman.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:58:32 -0500 From: "David W. Buckley" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: "Chris Tune" , "'Gregory Campbell'" , "'Dick Sleeman'" Cc: 'Trombone-List' Message-ID: <000f01c87d8a$7d04bb00$d733c143@Buckley> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I knew the best solution would arrive sooner or later. Dave. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Tune" To: "'Gregory Campbell'" ; "'Dick Sleeman'" Cc: "'Trombone-List'" Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question >I think for the Rimsky Korsakoff and the Rachmaninoff you can drink > something darker like a very high quality Porter or Stout (your choice as > to > whether you like a sweetened or an Irish style stout). > > But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you > switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay > Peres Trappist Ale. > > No more than one bottle for the Strav. You want to be fresh when you get > to > the riiiiipppppppp! At the end. > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu > [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] > On Behalf Of Gregory Campbell > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:18 AM > To: Dick Sleeman > Cc: Trombone-List > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > one bach 42 and one bach 5G and a six pack of beer always seems to > work just fine for me for every concert and situation. Though > sometimes I drink different beers. > > :-) > > Gregory Campbell > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dick Sleeman wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David W. Buckley" >> To: "trombone list" >> Sent: Friday 29 February 2008 22:43 >> Subject: [Trombone-l] equipment question >> >> > My community orchestra is doing Night on Bald Mountain, Rachmaninoff >> > 2nd > piano >> > concerto and Firebird Suite on our next program. >> > >> > I plan on using ny 88h with the Doug Elliot G cup and shank for the >> > Moussourski and the Rachmaninoff but should I lighten up a bit for the >> > Stravinsky? I could stay with the 88h but with and F cup or go to my > Bach 36 >> > also with the F cup. >> >> Should one really use a different horn/mouthpiece for every other piece? >> >> How many different horns/mouthpieces should one own to be prepared? >> >> Respectfully asked (but with tong in cheek :-)) >> >> Dick Sleeman >> >> dick@sleeman.nl >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 > 10:01 AM > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:03:01 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: Trombone-List Cc: Trombone-List Message-ID: <748625.44441.qm@web31808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know...it seems to me Firebird is Stravinsky in full Russian mode. Which means of course, to be authentic you really should only drink vodka... Gabe ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Tune To: Gregory Campbell ; Dick Sleeman Cc: Trombone-List Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 6:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question I think for the Rimsky Korsakoff and the Rachmaninoff you can drink something darker like a very high quality Porter or Stout (your choice as to whether you like a sweetened or an Irish style stout). But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay Peres Trappist Ale. No more than one bottle for the Strav. You want to be fresh when you get to the riiiiipppppppp! At the end. Chris -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] On Behalf Of Gregory Campbell Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:18 AM To: Dick Sleeman Cc: Trombone-List Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question one bach 42 and one bach 5G and a six pack of beer always seems to work just fine for me for every concert and situation. Though sometimes I drink different beers. :-) Gregory Campbell On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dick Sleeman wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Buckley" > To: "trombone list" > Sent: Friday 29 February 2008 22:43 > Subject: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > My community orchestra is doing Night on Bald Mountain, Rachmaninoff 2nd piano > > concerto and Firebird Suite on our next program. > > > > I plan on using ny 88h with the Doug Elliot G cup and shank for the > > Moussourski and the Rachmaninoff but should I lighten up a bit for the > > Stravinsky? I could stay with the 88h but with and F cup or go to my Bach 36 > > also with the F cup. > > Should one really use a different horn/mouthpiece for every other piece? > > How many different horns/mouthpieces should one own to be prepared? > > Respectfully asked (but with tong in cheek :-)) > > Dick Sleeman > > dick@sleeman.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:03:01 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: Trombone-List Cc: Trombone-List Message-ID: <748625.44441.qm@web31808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know...it seems to me Firebird is Stravinsky in full Russian mode. Which means of course, to be authentic you really should only drink vodka... Gabe ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Tune To: Gregory Campbell ; Dick Sleeman Cc: Trombone-List Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 6:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question I think for the Rimsky Korsakoff and the Rachmaninoff you can drink something darker like a very high quality Porter or Stout (your choice as to whether you like a sweetened or an Irish style stout). But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay Peres Trappist Ale. No more than one bottle for the Strav. You want to be fresh when you get to the riiiiipppppppp! At the end. Chris -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] On Behalf Of Gregory Campbell Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:18 AM To: Dick Sleeman Cc: Trombone-List Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question one bach 42 and one bach 5G and a six pack of beer always seems to work just fine for me for every concert and situation. Though sometimes I drink different beers. :-) Gregory Campbell On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dick Sleeman wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Buckley" > To: "trombone list" > Sent: Friday 29 February 2008 22:43 > Subject: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > My community orchestra is doing Night on Bald Mountain, Rachmaninoff 2nd piano > > concerto and Firebird Suite on our next program. > > > > I plan on using ny 88h with the Doug Elliot G cup and shank for the > > Moussourski and the Rachmaninoff but should I lighten up a bit for the > > Stravinsky? I could stay with the 88h but with and F cup or go to my Bach 36 > > also with the F cup. > > Should one really use a different horn/mouthpiece for every other piece? > > How many different horns/mouthpieces should one own to be prepared? > > Respectfully asked (but with tong in cheek :-)) > > Dick Sleeman > > dick@sleeman.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:37:55 -0600 From: "Jeff Albert" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: "Gabriel Langfur" Cc: Trombone-List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Gabriel Langfur wrote: > I don't know...it seems to me Firebird is Stravinsky in full Russian mode. Which means of course, to be authentic you really should only drink vodka... > > Gabe Does it have to be period vodka, or is modern vodka ok? Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chris Tune > To: Gregory Campbell ; Dick Sleeman > Cc: Trombone-List > > > Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 6:08:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > I think for the Rimsky Korsakoff and the Rachmaninoff you can drink > something darker like a very high quality Porter or Stout (your choice as to > whether you like a sweetened or an Irish style stout). > > But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you > switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay > Peres Trappist Ale. > > No more than one bottle for the Strav. You want to be fresh when you get to > the riiiiipppppppp! At the end. > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] > On Behalf Of Gregory Campbell > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:18 AM > To: Dick Sleeman > Cc: Trombone-List > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > one bach 42 and one bach 5G and a six pack of beer always seems to > work just fine for me for every concert and situation. Though > sometimes I drink different beers. > > :-) > > Gregory Campbell > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dick Sleeman wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David W. Buckley" > > To: "trombone list" > > Sent: Friday 29 February 2008 22:43 > > Subject: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > > > My community orchestra is doing Night on Bald Mountain, Rachmaninoff 2nd > piano > > > concerto and Firebird Suite on our next program. > > > > > > I plan on using ny 88h with the Doug Elliot G cup and shank for the > > > Moussourski and the Rachmaninoff but should I lighten up a bit for the > > > Stravinsky? I could stay with the 88h but with and F cup or go to my > Bach 36 > > > also with the F cup. > > > > Should one really use a different horn/mouthpiece for every other piece? > > > > How many different horns/mouthpieces should one own to be prepared? > > > > Respectfully asked (but with tong in cheek :-)) > > > > Dick Sleeman > > > > dick@sleeman.nl > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trombone-l mailing list > > Trombone-l@samford.edu > > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > -- www.jeffalbert.com www.scratchmybrain.com www.openearsmusic.org ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:28:06 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: Gabriel Langfur , Jeff Albert Cc: Trombone-List Message-ID: <20080303202806.TLLM7.108127.imail@eastrmwml07.mgt.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I'm gonna have to disagree with you guys. If you are doing some good ol' Russian music, you need some Russian Imperial Stout. I recommend Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout, made by North Coast Brewing Company in California. Josh ---- Jeff Albert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Gabriel Langfur wrote: > > I don't know...it seems to me Firebird is Stravinsky in full Russian mode. Which means of course, to be authentic you really should only drink vodka... > > > > Gabe > > Does it have to be period vodka, or is modern vodka ok? > > Jeff > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Chris Tune > > To: Gregory Campbell ; Dick Sleeman > > Cc: Trombone-List > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 6:08:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > > I think for the Rimsky Korsakoff and the Rachmaninoff you can drink > > something darker like a very high quality Porter or Stout (your choice as to > > whether you like a sweetened or an Irish style stout). > > > > But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you > > switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay > > Peres Trappist Ale. > > > > No more than one bottle for the Strav. You want to be fresh when you get to > > the riiiiipppppppp! At the end. > > > > Chris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] > > On Behalf Of Gregory Campbell > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:18 AM > > To: Dick Sleeman > > Cc: Trombone-List > > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > > one bach 42 and one bach 5G and a six pack of beer always seems to > > work just fine for me for every concert and situation. Though > > sometimes I drink different beers. > > > > :-) > > > > Gregory Campbell > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dick Sleeman wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David W. Buckley" > > > To: "trombone list" > > > Sent: Friday 29 February 2008 22:43 > > > Subject: [Trombone-l] equipment question > > > > > > > My community orchestra is doing Night on Bald Mountain, Rachmaninoff 2nd > > piano > > > > concerto and Firebird Suite on our next program. > > > > > > > > I plan on using ny 88h with the Doug Elliot G cup and shank for the > > > > Moussourski and the Rachmaninoff but should I lighten up a bit for the > > > > Stravinsky? I could stay with the 88h but with and F cup or go to my > > Bach 36 > > > > also with the F cup. > > > > > > Should one really use a different horn/mouthpiece for every other piece? > > > > > > How many different horns/mouthpieces should one own to be prepared? > > > > > > Respectfully asked (but with tong in cheek :-)) > > > > > > Dick Sleeman > > > > > > dick@sleeman.nl > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Trombone-l mailing list > > > Trombone-l@samford.edu > > > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trombone-l mailing list > > Trombone-l@samford.edu > > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trombone-l mailing list > > Trombone-l@samford.edu > > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trombone-l mailing list > > Trombone-l@samford.edu > > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > > > > -- > www.jeffalbert.com > www.scratchmybrain.com > www.openearsmusic.org > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:56:28 -0500 From: Nicholas Roberts Subject: [Trombone-l] Shires Bass Trombone For Sale To: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello All, I have a used Shires custom bass trombone for sale. Independent double rotor valves, yellow brass BII 3Y bell, dual bore (.562-.578) slide. This horn is in _great_ condition. It has recently been sonic cleaned and checked over by the Shires factory. Asking $4,000.00 or best offer. Please e-mail me for more details, with questions, or for pictures. Best Regards Nicholas Roberts nprobert@syr.edu ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:09:24 -0500 From: "Jono" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] equipment question To: "'Trombone-List'" Message-ID: <006801c87df0$9667fec0$c337fc40$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >But for the lighter, more French style Stravinsky I'd recommend that you >switch over to a Belgian Abbey Style Ale. Perhaps the red label Chimay >Peres Trappist Ale. Quick anecdote: my father told the story of being at the Boston premier of the Rite of Spring (early '30's?) He said people booed and walked out in outrage. How times change.... -jono ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:26:18 -0500 From: "Moran, Doug" Subject: [Trombone-l] Looking for 2 or 3 horn chart - "FINS" To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: <6df5fe3499827ad82a97629a9b6768ca@denison.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed This is trombone related in that one of the horns playing will be a trombone. Besides, the folks on this list know where to find almost anything! For a local production, I'm looking for an arrangement of "FINS" by Jimmy Buffett. Pit will be sax-trumpet-trombone and rhythm including guitar. Purchase or free, it does not matter. I'll take a big band chart if needed. Thanks - Doug morand@denison.edu ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 *****************************************