Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 28 Date: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 28 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Conn Serial Number (Erik Tkal) 2. Re: Conn Serial Number (Walter Barrett) 3. Re: Conn Serial Number (Eric & Candice Swanson) 4. Growling and other effects (Kimberly Mauch) 5. Re: Growling and other effects (Daryl Burch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:41:05 -0500 From: Erik Tkal Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Conn Serial Number To: Heather Nielsen Cc: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: <47C5AEC1.6020401@tkal.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://www.xs4all.nl/~cderksen/ConnSerialsConnBrass.html shows the "5" series in 2000, though it seems unlikely that you would approach 632xxx that quickly. If you ignore the "5" then perhaps 1956 would be a better guess. Did you buy the horn new in 1998? Also see http://www.xs4all.nl/~cderksen/ConnArticle12.html for additional info. Erik Heather Nielsen wrote: > I know this has to have been discussed before and I posted it on the > Trombone Forum with no reply. Can someone help me with trying to figure out > the year my horn was made? I looked it up on the Conn site, but it doesn't > make sense to me. I also talked to a guy at a nice size music store in ATL > who said that it was made in 2000..hmmmm, I bought it I in '98. Here is the > info: > > Conn 88H LT OW > > Bell assembly #: 5 632xxx > > Valve assembly #: 447 > > Slide #: F 3006 > > > > Thanks, > > Heather > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:49:18 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Conn Serial Number To: Bone Trombone-L Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes If the number was 45 632XXX, it would fit in with a mid to late 90s manufacture. Possibly the 4 got worn off, especially if that where you hold it. OW is Open Wrap? If that's true, then it won't be from 1956, for sure. On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Erik Tkal wrote: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~cderksen/ConnSerialsConnBrass.html shows the "5" > series in 2000, though it seems unlikely that you would approach > 632xxx > that quickly. If you ignore the "5" then perhaps 1956 would be a > better > guess. Did you buy the horn new in 1998? > > Also see http://www.xs4all.nl/~cderksen/ConnArticle12.html for > additional info. > > Erik > > > Heather Nielsen wrote: >> I know this has to have been discussed before and I posted it on the >> Trombone Forum with no reply. Can someone help me with trying to >> figure out >> the year my horn was made? I looked it up on the Conn site, but it >> doesn't >> make sense to me. I also talked to a guy at a nice size music >> store in ATL >> who said that it was made in 2000..hmmmm, I bought it I in '98. >> Here is the >> info: >> >> Conn 88H LT OW >> >> Bell assembly #: 5 632xxx >> >> Walter Barrett "The trick is growing up without growing old." - Casey Stengel Alto, tenor, bass trombones Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba Yamaha Artist/Clinician http://www.walterbarrett.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:10:06 -0600 From: Eric & Candice Swanson Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Conn Serial Number To: Trombone-L Message-ID: <47C5C39E.6070709@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Walter Barrett wrote: > <>If the number was 45 632XXX, it would fit in with a mid to late 90s > manufacture. Possibly the 4 got worn off, especially if that where you > hold it. OW is Open Wrap? If that's true, then it won't be from 1956, > for sure. > > > Heather Nielsen wrote: > >>>I know this has to have been discussed before and I posted it on the >>>Trombone Forum with no reply. Can someone help me with trying to >>>figure out >>>the year my horn was made? >>> >>>Conn 88H LT OW >>> >>>Bell assembly #: 5 632xxx >>> >>> >>> I go with Walter's theory. 1995 is most likely the year. In 1987 they started the numbering system where the numbers were like 37 000001. The "secret code" for finding out when it was made was you add 50 to the prefix number and that gives you the year of manufacture. 37+50= 87, so 1987. This is illustrated on the chart on the web site mentioned: http://www.xs4all.nl/~cderksen/ConnSerialsConnBrass.html I think after a while they just started putting on the second digit. In other words, your serial number: 5 632xxx should really be 45 632xxx dating the horn to 1995. And as someone said, they didn't have the open wrap until about the 1990s and they also didn't have the 88H LT before that either so we know it couldn't have been made in the 1950s. Eric Swanson ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:44:53 -0800 From: "Kimberly Mauch" Subject: [Trombone-l] Growling and other effects To: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: <5121982c0802272144w6f45f504qcd492a3620e71c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I'm relatively new to this list, so forgive me if this has been addressed before. I'm starting to study more jazz styles, and a lot of dixieland involves growling and other "vocalizing" techniques. I'm curious if anyone here has any tips in this area, preferably without a mute. I've tried the "sing while you play" recommendation, and haven't been successful (so far). Is there a method to learning this this (or any other) technique without an instructor? Thanks, Kim Lead Trombone, Mood Swings Jazz Band www.the-mood-swings.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:17:43 -0800 From: Daryl Burch Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Growling and other effects To: Kimberly Mauch Cc: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: <35712850-A1EF-4914-8063-02C25422834A@burchinteractive.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The Ellington-style was a plunger over a pixie mute. I find growling in the throat (or flutter-tonguing) leading into the note coupled with the plunger makes the character feel. Listen to some early Ellington or anything from Snookie Young. (Ya! I know he's a trumpet player! But he knows how to make a plunger really talk!) Anyway, that's $0.02. Cheers! -D- www.radionoise.com <= Rockstar by night www.burchinteractive.com <= Technerd by day On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Kimberly Mauch wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm relatively new to this list, so forgive me if this has been > addressed > before. I'm starting to study more jazz styles, and a lot of dixieland > involves growling and other "vocalizing" techniques. I'm curious if > anyone > here has any tips in this area, preferably without a mute. I've > tried the > "sing while you play" recommendation, and haven't been successful > (so far). > Is there a method to learning this this (or any other) technique > without an > instructor? > > Thanks, > Kim > Lead Trombone, Mood Swings Jazz Band > www.the-mood-swings.com > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 28 ******************************************