Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 14 Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 14 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. test (sabutin) 2. Re: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 13 (David L. Loucky) 3. Re: test (Jason Smith) 4. Re: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 13 (Barry Green) 5. Benge 190C (Paul Abel) 6. Re: Doug Elliot (JENKINS,JOHN J) 7. Re: Doug Elliot (JENKINS,JOHN J) 8. Re: Doug Elliot (Keith Marr) 9. Re: Doug Elliot (emrose79) 10. Re: Benge Trombone (Craig B.) 11. Re: Doug Elliot (Roger Carmichael) 12. Re: School information (Gabriel Langfur) 13. Re: Bousfield/Dove (Gabriel Langfur) 14. Re: intonation (Gabriel Langfur) 15. Re: intonation (Paul Kemp) 16. Re: (WAS) How to learn about F attachment (Daniel Pliskin) 17. Re: (WAS) How to learn about F attachment (Dean Hubbard) 18. Re: intonation (Patrick & Lisa Bates) 19. Re: intonation (Steve Gamble) 20. Re: intonation (BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com) 21. Re: (WAS) How to learn about F attachment (Keith Marr) 22. Re: Bousfield/Dove Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu (chris) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:27:11 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: sabutin Subject: [Trombone-l] test To: TROMBONE-L@server5.SAMFORD.EDU Message-ID: <11340120.1173806831361.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 test ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "David L. Loucky" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 13 To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Regarding Music Industry or Recording programs, Middle Tennessee State University should be on this list. The School of Music offers a major in Music Industry with a minor in Recording, which includes a senior year internship as well as core classes in music, applied lessons and a senior recital. The Recording major, while not a music major, offers the possibility of a music minor. Their facilities are first rate. The music faculty are also outstanding, if I do say so myself. Both programs attract students from all over the country. Check out www.mtsu.edu, www.mtsumusic.com and www.mtsubrass.com for program information and to listen to faculty performances. David Loucky Professor of Trombone and Euphonium dloucky@mtsu.edu ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Smith Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] test To: sabutin , bone list Message-ID: <691571.26451.qm@web35011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 what's on the test do we get to study? --- sabutin wrote: > test > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > Jason Smith www.thebandroomtx.com www.concerttimeusa.com www.pershingparkbaptist.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:11:40 -0500 From: "Barry Green" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 13 To: "'David L. Loucky'" , Message-ID: <20070313181140.04B7D2001330@mail.hotelhsiamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd like to second this. MTSU has assembled an incredible roster of great teachers who are great players as well (Dr. Loucky included!). The facilities are first rate and the close proximity to Nashville make it a great place for students interested in the music business either as players or in any other capacity. The Recording Industry Program is superb. Nashville has an excellent symphony orchestra with an incredible hall and the music scene is growing and changing daily. Kudos to Dr. Loucky, Don Aliquo as well as the many other talented folks who teach there. Barry Green -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu] On Behalf Of David L. Loucky Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:33 PM To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 13 Regarding Music Industry or Recording programs, Middle Tennessee State University should be on this list. The School of Music offers a major in Music Industry with a minor in Recording, which includes a senior year internship as well as core classes in music, applied lessons and a senior recital. The Recording major, while not a music major, offers the possibility of a music minor. Their facilities are first rate. The music faculty are also outstanding, if I do say so myself. Both programs attract students from all over the country. Check out www.mtsu.edu, www.mtsumusic.com and www.mtsubrass.com for program information and to listen to faculty performances. David Loucky Professor of Trombone and Euphonium dloucky@mtsu.edu _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:30:01 -0400 From: Paul Abel Subject: [Trombone-l] Benge 190C To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <45F6FBB9.1090204@frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes, Benge did make the 190C, It was designed by Chuck Ward. There was a straight gooseneck, and F attachment. One would loosen 2 thumb screws, and pull the main tuning slide out to convert the horn. If your straight section is missing, you can have one made. Just use any staight gooseneck (ask your repair tech) like Conn, or bach or Edwards or whatever. You'll need to order a Benge 190F slide receiver and inside tuning slide tube and ferrule. You'll also need to add a gooseneck to bell brace, with the corrsponding socket flange assy mounted on the bell. The 190C has an extra brace between the gooseneck and bell, just like any straight tenor. The 190F doesn't have that brace. If yours is a 190C, it should have that brace, or evidence that it's been removed. You should also have the coupling for the detachable F section soldered to the bell. Yours may be a 190C that was made into a permanantly mounted F section. Conn / Selmer may still have them available, your repair tech should be able to order one if that's the case. It is a good horn. Back in the mid and late '80's, lots of players used them. Unfortunately, the Benge trombones were poorly marketed, and ultimately ignored by the sales and marketing people. They couldn't capture the Bach market, then about the same time, Edwards appeared on the scene. Add to that, the improvement of the 88H's, and it wasn't a huge commercial success. The current 165F is the same horn, except it uses a traditional wrap 4B F section. It is marketed as a "intermediate" horn. I don't think they are really that collectable....yet. I'm always amazed at what the latest "collectable" horns are. I recently sold a really nice 190F for 900.00. Top dollar, I would think. The 190C came in a weird case. It was big and more square than the typical "triangular" UMI bone cases. It looks more like a valve trombone case. I don't recall having to disassemble the horn to put it away, however. There was a place in the accessory compartment which held the straight section when not in use. Hope that helps, -Paul Abel- www.brassandwoodwindshop.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:32:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "JENKINS,JOHN J" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Doug Elliot To: "'Trombone-L List'" Message-ID: <896242376.481921173817950803.JavaMail.osg@osgjas01.cns.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Hey All, Doug is a busy man, which has already been said. The mouthpiece production business is no longer as "side thing" for him as it once was in the past. He told me that it's his current main focus. Also, he does have a laptop, and he pretty much carries it around everywhere he goes. He's just... simply, a busy man. He's always on the road gigging and freelancing, and tries to catch up with his orders whenever he's at home. He doesn't have a mouthpiece manufacturing roadkit?, I'm afraid, so he has to do the best he can. =) He has a hard time keeping the "hot items" in stock, such as the C, D, G, and H cups as well as the XT/LT 100, 101, 102, and 103 rims. So, all you can do is be patient. Yes, he has a business and he's trying his best to cater to his clients, but he can't just stop what he's doing to make a cup or rim for a client. He has other things to do. He has a wife, who is also a professional musician, and a house and bills to take care of. john ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:36:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "JENKINS,JOHN J" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Doug Elliot To: emrose79 , "'Trombone-L List'" Message-ID: <779866972.482151173818216110.JavaMail.osg@osgjas01.cns.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii And after reading that INITIAL email by Ed, I was to clarify that I wasn't at all trying to be fresh toward you. I hadn't even read the initial post before I wrote mine, because I thought I had already read the last one. 2 months is a long time and is rather unusual. Which number have you been using? On Mon Mar 12 20:16:48 EDT 2007, emrose79 wrote: > I placed an order with Doug about 2 months ago. I've called and > emailed, but have heard nothing. Is he touring? ( hopefully he is > not sick ) > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > John Jenkins University of Florida Grad Teaching Assistant M.M. Trombone Performance Candidate 118 MUB P.O. Box 117900 Gainesville, Fl 32611-7900 352-745-8185 posaune@ufl.edu []xxxx[]::::::::::::::::> "Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important." -T.S. Elliot- ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:32 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Doug Elliot To: "'Trombone-L List'" Message-ID: <004401c765b0$43fcf810$1b01a8c0@new70e71fdbcec> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don't want to sound intolerant but no doubt I will because I feel I have to say that I'm tired of people making excuses for Doug Elliot because " he's a gigging musician" or some other such reason. Now we learn that he regards his mouthpiece making business as his priority - hmm! Well all I can say is to reiterate what I said earlier, which is he needs a business partner who can keep things flowing when he's not around. It's worse than useless to produce the world's best mouthpieces (I use an LB116 on my Rath bass) if you're not going to deal with the demand that inevitably results from being the best. He's created a demand from me that he fails to satisfy. I even used to advertise his services when I had a website. I eventually gave up trying to get more of the LB series for doubling about two years ago because I never got any responses to any form of communication. Anyone on list near Doug prepared to offer assistance? He definitely needs an approach from someone. Cheers! Keith in Bb/F/D Bass Trombone St Albans Symphony Orchestra North Herts Big Band ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:22:16 -0700 From: emrose79 Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Doug Elliot To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: <45F71608.2010208@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Thanks to everyone that replied. His website does state that he is a player first, so I'm glad that he is busy (busy=money....uh... doesn't it??) rather than being sick.... As this mp is not for my main horn (that would be trombone, for Tom), I guess I can afford to be patient... Ed ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:25:10 -0500 From: "Craig B." Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Benge Trombone To: Message-ID: <006d01c765c6$d8dc3a70$6101a8c0@your03667082de> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Rick, I own a 190C since which I bought new in 1986. It is no longer in production and that makes it somewhat more interesting but not incredibly rare or collectable....yet :) They show up on eBay occassionally..... There were two different slides shipped w/ those horns...one w/ interchangeable leadpipes and one with a fixed pipe. Which do you have? The 190F currently being produced is similar to yours but I have been led to believe by one of the outside reps that the bell is produced differently and of course the older style gold-colored King laquer is no longer used which had an impact on sound (positively, IMO). If you could get in touch with with someone inside at Conn-Selmer (the Benge parent company) they might be able to find a spare one floating around...worth trying. The straight gooseneck as well as the F attachment assembly were both included with the instrument as it was delivered. It is my preferred arrangement when playing mine. The F attachment is good but the open horn just blows better to me. Wonder where yours is now?? FWIW, the case will not accomodate all of the pieces at one time. I had my mother, being the creative one in the family, create me a storage bag for the extra part right after I bought it. Craig in N. GA -------------------------------------------------------------------- <<<>>> Hello to the list members-This is my first post. I have a question about a Benge Trombone. I recently purchased what I thought was a Benge 190 F trombone.However, the F attachment section is removable. I'm told I have a 190-C model, as in convertible, and it can be converted to a straight horn with a piece i don't have. Is this model still made? Is it rare/collectable? Is the missing piece available? I have a King 3B, but I tried a 190 F a few years ago and really liked it, that's why I went after this one. The seller included a new case, but it must be the wrong model case, as I must disassemble the horn to put it away. Any info about this model will be appreciated. Thanks. Rick Lundquist, Jamestown, NY ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:48:15 -0500 From: "Roger Carmichael" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Doug Elliot To: "emrose79" , "Trombone-L List" Message-ID: <380-22007331424815359@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Ed, have you tried the internet, i.e., OTJ classifieds, eBay, etc? I bought my DE bass trombone mouthpiece several years ago off ebay, then got a gold-plated rim off OTJ. When Elliott was at a tuba conference nearby, I bought a tuba shank for the mouthpiece from the man himself. I suppose I was lucky. He was in the process of packing up everything and did not want to spend much time talking or selling. I was in and out in less than 2 minutes. I knew what I needed, he had it, I paid for it and bid him adios. > [Original Message] > From: emrose79 > To: Trombone-L List > Date: 3/13/2007 4:22:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Doug Elliot > > Thanks to everyone that replied. His website does state that he is a > player first, so I'm glad that he is busy (busy=money....uh... doesn't > it??) rather than being sick.... As this mp is not for my main horn > (that would be trombone, for Tom), I guess I can afford to be patient... > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:31:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Langfur Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] School information To: Trombone-l Message-ID: <507568.28326.qm@web31809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Hi Jon, Among the conservatories, I think Peabody in Baltimore is the only one with a dedicated sound engineering program. Well, I'm not sure it's the only one...but it's got a program. I think it sometimes serves as a feeder for engineers for NPR in Washington DC. Gabe ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Bohls To: Trombone-l Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:51:52 AM Subject: [Trombone-l] School information Listers, I have an ex-student that is starting to look at colleges. He is in his Jr. year of HS right now. He wants to major in Composition and Sound Engineering. The Sound Engineering would be to learn to produce recordings. What schools would you recommend he look at? Thanks, Jon _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Langfur Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Bousfield/Dove To: Roger Harvey , Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <651677.79431.qm@web31808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Welcome to the list Mr. Harvey! My teacher Ray Premru had only admiring things to say about you. Gabe Langfur, Boston ----- Original Message ---- From: Roger Harvey To: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:08:29 PM Subject: [Trombone-l] Bousfield/Dove Just joined this listing and think you should be interested in a new concerto. It is called Stargazer by Jonathon Dove; a 30 minute piece given its first performance last Friday by Ian Bousfield and the LSO in London. Staggeringly assured playing by Ian, he made a difficult piece sound easy. It's in a very listenable contemporary style, normal symphonic resources (no trombones in orch) and although challenging for the soloist should be worth the work. Look out for it. Roger Harvey _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:40:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Langfur Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <546203.83198.qm@web31808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii ----- Original Message ---- From: "Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Ansbach DPW" timothy.a.richardson@us.army.mil Do you really think that happens? That a player becomes so good at playing equal temperament that he can't play with a real world group? I have also experienced this - the player that sounds great, with excellent intonation relative to himself, auditions great, but has trouble holding the job, largely because of an inability to adjust to ensemble pitch. In these cases, ensemble rhythm is usually an issue too. Gabe ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:53:46 -0400 From: "Paul Kemp" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation To: "'Gabriel Langfur'" , Message-ID: <000001c765e3$fc526bb0$0302a8c0@smitherspkgt05> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is certainly true. It's another flaw of the audition system as we know it. Paul Kemp -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu] On Behalf Of Gabriel Langfur Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:40 PM To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation ----- Original Message ---- From: "Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Ansbach DPW" timothy.a.richardson@us.army.mil Do you really think that happens? That a player becomes so good at playing equal temperament that he can't play with a real world group? I have also experienced this - the player that sounds great, with excellent intonation relative to himself, auditions great, but has trouble holding the job, largely because of an inability to adjust to ensemble pitch. In these cases, ensemble rhythm is usually an issue too. Gabe _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:01:35 +0000 From: "Daniel Pliskin" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] (WAS) How to learn about F attachment To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Keith, > >I played next to a guy a few months ago who tuned his fourth line F on the >valve to the same note on the open horn. It didn't seem to occur to him to >tune the oboe . . . hmmm! The reason the orchestra tunes to the oboes is that you canāt tune an oboe. The best you can do is to carve a new reed, in a slightly different pitch. DanP _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:07:14 -0700 From: Dean Hubbard Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] (WAS) How to learn about F attachment To: "TROMBONE-L@server5.samford.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The designer of the original Frakenbone wrote: " The reason the orchestra tunes to the oboes is that you can?t tune an oboe. " You're telling us!!! We know those beasts can't be tuned or tamed. Sorry Daniel, couldn't resist. Bad Dean. On 3/13/07 9:01 PM, "Daniel Pliskin" wrote: > > > Keith, >> >> I played next to a guy a few months ago who tuned his fourth line F on the >> valve to the same note on the open horn. It didn't seem to occur to him to >> tune the oboe . . . hmmm! > > The reason the orchestra tunes to the oboes is that you can?t tune an oboe. > The best you can do is to carve a new reed, in a slightly different pitch > > DanP > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office > Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:25:07 -0400 From: "Patrick & Lisa Bates" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation To: Message-ID: <001501c76623$0c824160$d4885fd8@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Possible cause? I like to think I have pretty good relative pitch and time (for a complete amatuer at least). I think it's a learned skill, and attribute it to lots of time in group situations. 5 years of vocal classes in high school for starters, along with the instrumental classes, bands, choirs, etc. Piano lessons at a young age too. Typical music geek type. Could people with this problem be the ones that did all their playing solo? Do you really think that happens? That a player becomes so good at playing equal temperament that he can't play with a real world group? I have also experienced this - the player that sounds great, with excellent intonation relative to himself, auditions great, but has trouble holding the job, largely because of an inability to adjust to ensemble pitch. In these cases, ensemble rhythm is usually an issue too. Gabe ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:18:34 -0700 From: "Steve Gamble" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation To: Message-ID: <0B5C87139BED1C49B4CFA3563492DD812D302B@srv01.tso.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "In these cases, ensemble rhythm is usually an issue too. Gabe" Probably because they use a tuner with a metronome on it. :) Steve Gamble, Librarian Tucson Symphony Orchestra 2175 N. 6th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85705 520-792-9155 x118 office 520-792-9314 fax 520-991-7056 cell sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org www.tucsonsymphony.org -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu] On Behalf Of Gabriel Langfur Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:40 PM To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation ----- Original Message ---- From: "Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Ansbach DPW" timothy.a.richardson@us.army.mil Do you really think that happens? That a player becomes so good at playing equal temperament that he can't play with a real world group? I have also experienced this - the player that sounds great, with excellent intonation relative to himself, auditions great, but has trouble holding the job, largely because of an inability to adjust to ensemble pitch. In these cases, ensemble rhythm is usually an issue too. Gabe _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:49:19 EDT From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] intonation To: timothy.a.richardson@us.army.mil, slide@adios.co.uk, slideadams@cablespeed.com, trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This is why I like to practice whatever before giving a performance. My mind seems to be stuck in the last mode (equal temperment, etc.) that I last played in. Practice with ensemble enables me to get "reset" for the current performance. Also, if I have switched trombones for a performance, it reacquaints me with the peculiarities of that particular instrument. I have three and believe me they differ sharply. So much for sight reading for an ensemble performance. beldon wade


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:53:05 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] (WAS) How to learn about F attachment To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Listers have picked up on this comment, actuually it's a typo. I meant to say "tune TO the oboe". I bet the oboe player has problems when we tune to a church organ, as seems to be the case when there's one in the score. For that matter if 2nd oboe isn't in tune with 1st what do they do about it? Probably just play out of tune eh . . . Cheers! Keith in Bb/F/D Bass Trombone St Albans Symphony Orchestra North Herts Big Band ----- Original Message ----- >>I played next to a guy a few months ago who tuned his fourth line F on the >>valve to the same note on the open horn. It didn't seem to occur to him to >>tune the oboe . . . hmmm! > > The reason the orchestra tunes to the oboes is that you can't tune an > oboe. > The best you can do is to carve a new reed, in a slightly different pitch. ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:26:14 -0800 From: chris Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Bousfield/Dove Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu To: Trombone-L Message-ID: <7EF374B9-4EC3-4845-9D04-E2F93EB26DCF@iris.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed There was a review in Monday's Financial Times. While they weren't too keen on the music of Dove, they had nice things to say about Bousfield's playing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the list Mr. Harvey! My teacher Ray Premru had only admiring things to say about you. Gabe Langfur, Boston ----- Original Message ---- From: Roger Harvey To: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:08:29 PM Subject: [Trombone-l] Bousfield/Dove Just joined this listing and think you should be interested in a new concerto. It is called Stargazer by Jonathon Dove; a 30 minute piece given its first performance last Friday by Ian Bousfield and the LSO in London. Staggeringly assured playing by Ian, he made a difficult piece sound easy. It's in a very listenable contemporary style, normal symphonic resources (no trombones in orch) and although challenging for the soloist should be worth the work. Look out for it. Roger Harvey _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l <<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 14 ******************************************