Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 4 Date: Sunday, March 4, 2007 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 4 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Trombone Music (Stan Brager) 2. Re: Carry-On Instruments (denton) 3. Re: Trombone is cool because it is simple (Chris Tune) 4. Re: Spanish tuba conductor (Bosse Vingren) 5. Re: Carry-On Instruments (William Huber) 6. U of M Trombone Symposium (Bob Woodard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:35:36 -0800 From: "Stan Brager" Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone Music To: "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <002101c75dc2$be9bab20$6501a8c0@jazzman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For many years, the Library of Congress has been digitizing American popular music from the 1800s. Their website is: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/mussmhtml/mussmhome.html Click on the above reference, Then, click on "Search", enter "trombone". You'll come up with 12 references which can be viewed in their entirety, downloaded and printed. Of particular interest was White's Trombone Method, an Arthur Sullivan medley and a song "The Trombone Player". The last was a popular song done in a German dialect. Stan Stan Brager ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:47:40 -0600 From: denton Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Carry-On Instruments To: Trombone-L@samford.edu Message-ID: <45E9D0DC.6030406@usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I too use the golf case bit. Some Airlines (American/Qantas, I think Southwest) have an unusually high weight limit on golf clubs/bags. It can be overweight but if they don't ask what's inside, it's free. If I tell them it's my horn, though, it costs me $25. When my horn is overweight, it goes free about half the time. I'm happy to pay rather than risking an unexpectedly checked horn. Still possible that TSA will pull my horn out and drop it. Or drop it twice (#@$). -- dentonlt.com / denton@dentonlt.com +1.512.680.7395 DMA in Progress: Performance, Trombone The University of Texas at Austin ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:46:29 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone is cool because it is simple To: "Stan Brager" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <002601c75dd5$057cf140$0200a8c0@athlon2800> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original We don't know how lucky we are with our musical instrument purchases. Generally we know if something is included or missing from our "kit". I just got through a NIGHTMARE having gotten a port replicator (model xb2000) for my HP laptop. . . .the $150 port rep came without an adaptor to match my model of laptop. . .. and that was just the BEGINNING of the hell I had to face. . . .you see the HP website and literature makes it sound like you can attach a model zv5000 laptop to this port replicator ("NO!" . . .of course not. . .that would be too easy). But the reality is that you need an adaptor. . . I spent a fourty five minute pleasant session with a guy from the area somewhere not far from India (yes, you can judge these things by the sound of people's voices). Nice guy. . .just didn't speak english (or American English for the academics) quite well enough to be doing customer service for a technical company. After almost ordering an $85 power supply order. . . .which, when he was nice enough to say "AC adapter" . . .I then cancelled, cancelled, cancelled. Imagine if you bought a trombone and you only found out after you got the order sent to you that no MOUTHPIECE was included and that you needed to order one from the online "PARTS STORE". We don't do that in our world. In our world, we almost invariably are able to simply disclose what is included and what is not included. That brings us to why the Trombone is one of the coolest musical instruments in the world -- it is SIMPLE. Simple doesn't make life easy, or make mastery easy, in fact it can make mastery very hard. But it makes dealing with the details, the maintenance the stucture much easier. We simpy need to be sure the tubes are not dented, and that they are parallel. We need to periodically clean our axe. We need to practice. Basic stuff. LESSON Always keep things simple [repeat - the simpler way is the better -- it's the way the Internet was invented i.e. IP just works on getting packets to the next point in the network] Always disclose everything totally, clearly and honestly. [if I knew another part was needed, I'd probably just order it. . .it's the awkwardness of getting a runaround that is hateful] Sometimes it seems like disclosure is a burden, but in the end, it's the best policy. The things that keep businesses from growing beyond a certain size often are hundreds and thousands of tiny ommissions, oversights and miscommunications. Very large organizations are infinitely more bureaucratic than small organizations and this causes them to be massively more DISFUNCTIONAL in tiny ways that make working with them much more frustrating, and much less efficient. . . .this breeds a class of "experts" who know the "in's and outs" (e.g. your tax preparer) Anyway, I hope everybody is having a good weekend. I'm sitting here trying to calm down. Chris ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:28:45 +0000 From: "Bosse Vingren" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Spanish tuba conductor To: dentonlt@usa.net, Trombone-L@samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Guys! Someone posted the adress to You Tube where this"wonderful energetic, devoted conductor tried to conduct a tuba band with trumpet soloist. Does anyone have the adress. Bossetrombon >From: denton >To: Trombone-L@samford.edu >Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Carry-On Instruments >Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:47:40 -0600 > >I too use the golf case bit. Some Airlines (American/Qantas, I think >Southwest) have an unusually high weight limit on golf clubs/bags. It >can be overweight but if they don't ask what's inside, it's free. If I >tell them it's my horn, though, it costs me $25. When my horn is >overweight, it goes free about half the time. > >I'm happy to pay rather than risking an unexpectedly checked horn. >Still possible that TSA will pull my horn out and drop it. Or drop it >twice (#@$). > >-- >dentonlt.com / denton@dentonlt.com >+1.512.680.7395 >DMA in Progress: Performance, Trombone >The University of Texas at Austin > > >_______________________________________________ >Trombone-l mailing list >Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l _________________________________________________________________ Schlagersignaler till mobilen http://msn.cellus.se/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:01:23 -0600 From: William Huber Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Carry-On Instruments To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <79E39FBC-9361-4861-8F43-F4E7CBCDC79B@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Dear Jeff, You've had better luck than I with gate checking your horn. Two years ago, I had to gate check my trombone in its fiberglass case, which is only an inch or two wider than your Eastman case. The case survived marvelously when it was thrown/dropped by the baggage handlers, but the slide got loose inside the case and it tore a hole through the bell. It takes an incredible jolt for that to occur, but it happened; the slide tore a hole through the bell. Before that, I used something called The Heavy Duty Trombone Travel Case for flying. It did excellently well until it had to go through the Denver airport, where the baggage handlers dropped/threw that case hard enough to put a small hole in it, something I thought impossible, and knocked loose the hand brace on the outer slide while doing it. Last year I _had_ to fly to Denver with my euphonium. Despite "Fragile" signs and stickers all over the case, and bubble wrap inside the case, my poor euphie had its valves and valve slides knocked about. I was lucky that the Miraphone factory head was there to put things in order. I'm taller than average, so airline seats don't fit me at all. I invariably catch the virus of the coughing, hacking person sitting behind me. And then I usually have an instrument repair bill to pay after the flight. Somehow, I find myself preferring to drive to jobs. :-) I suppose that most baggage handlers are good, conscientious folk, but it takes only one bad one to trash a horn. Wishing Everyone Good Luck and Bon Voyage, Bill Huber Nashville, TN =================== From: "Jeff Albert" Date: March 2, 2007 5:13:06 PM CST To: "Bill Dinwiddie" Cc: List Trombone Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Carry-On Instruments I am pretty sure the email is legit. I don't think a scammer would have an @afm.org email address. I have had to fly to gigs three or four times in the last couple of months, and it has really been pretty mellow. A couple of times on Southwest, some US Air, and even a Delta (although it was one of the commuter things that are run by a subsidiary). It has all been peaceful from the TSA and the airlines. I have an Eastman case that I carry on. It is even red, and hasn't even gotten a second look from people at the gate. Actually one time leaving New Orleans, I didn't realize that the flight was a small commuter jet (which I always have to gate check on) and the ticket agent and flight attendant let me on the plane with the trombone. I had to get back off and gate check it when it didn't fit. In the old days they would have stopped me and told me that it wouldn't fit before I hit the jetway. Jeff ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:30:18 -0500 From: "Bob Woodard" Subject: [Trombone-l] U of M Trombone Symposium To: Message-ID: <006601c75e15$d4295070$6501a8c0@DADDY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Does anyone have information on the Trombone Symposium that is to be held Saturday, March 10 at the University of Michigan? I can only find the notice on the Upcoming Events page that announces recitals/masterclasses by Ron Barron, David Jackson, Phil Wilson, and Dennis Wilson. I have not gotten a reply yet from the email link at the school. Sure looks like an interesting day. Any info would be appreciated. Bob Woodard ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 4 *****************************************