Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 24, Issue 23 Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 24, Issue 23 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. trombontine and the other creams (life) (Thomas Ervin) 2. Re: trombontine and the other creams (life) (Fred Hudson) 3. Re: oil/trombotine lifetime (Emil Orth) 4. Re: trombontine and the other creams (life) (BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com) 5. Re: trombontine and the other creams (life) (BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com) 6. distressed TR150 fs (Denton Thomas) 7. Re: trombontine and the other creams (life) (Adrian Drover) 8. Fw: x (Charles Levine) 9. Al Cass doublers mouthpiece question (Dean Hubbard) 10. Re: Al Cass doublers mouthpiece question (Steve Gamble) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:51:23 -0700 From: Thomas Ervin Subject: [Trombone-l] trombontine and the other creams (life) To: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <7C682B38-4456-4207-90A4-71DB50D7D81A@u.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed We note (down here where it gets hot) that all the creams last longer if we do NOT keep them in our cases, our hot/cold cars, or out on the field. Temperature changes seem to make them separate (the curds from the whey), and then the lubricating performance is not quite so good. I suggest to my students that the stuff will last longer if they'll keep it at home. If I "must" have some in my case, I transfer a dab to the smallest container I can find. Tom Ervin, Professor of Music University of Arizona (Music 133) (alt: with street address) PO Box 210004 MUSIC, Univ Arizona Tucson AZ 85721 1017 North Olive Road Tucson AZ 85719-0506 520/621-7021 (website) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:14:35 -0600 From: "Fred Hudson" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] trombontine and the other creams (life) To: , "Thomas Ervin" Message-ID: <001801c73e59$91a26920$51e6eb3f@s0024172501> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ervin" Subject: [Trombone-l] trombontine and the other creams (life) > We note (down here where it gets hot) that all the creams last longer > if we do NOT keep them in our cases, our hot/cold cars, or out on the > field. > > Temperature changes seem to make them separate (the curds from the > whey), and then the lubricating performance is not quite so good. > > I suggest to my students that the stuff will last longer if they'll > keep it at home. If I "must" have some in my case, I transfer a dab > to the smallest container I can find. > Growing up in South Florida in the days prior to "universal" home A/C, even keeping the Pond's at home didn't help: but we found that scraping off the "upper layer" and using the "lower layer" worked better than the unseparated cream - at least until it turned rancid! :<( Fred H ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:37:21 -0600 From: "Emil Orth" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] oil/trombotine lifetime To: "Chris Tune" , "Denton Thomas" , Message-ID: <002b01c73e65$1f09e670$9e611818@Emil> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Cris, About Reka lube, I have been on it since Jan. '93. Good stuff, even threw my water mist spray away. Don't need it. I have tried most every lube scheme known to the western world!!! I have found, however the Reka will last longer and even be slicker if you first, throughly clean the slide, then apply a very small dab of trombotine. Work it in with the outer slide. Rub the slide with your bare hand to remove anymore excess til' the slide feels almost dry. Then I apply a small drop or two of Reka and work it in. You'll be ready to go. From there on to rejuvenate, just wipe down with the bare hand, not a rag. If your slide is dent free and in alignment you will then have the slickest slide you've ever felt. The undercoat of trombotine seems to enhance the slickeness of the Reka, don't know why but it sure works for this old guy (78). ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:24:41 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] trombontine and the other creams (life) To: ervint@u.arizona.edu, Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I carry a plastic spoon and use it to stir up the Ponds Cold Creme when it separates. Works nicely. beldon wade ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:25:34 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] trombontine and the other creams (life) To: fmhudson@arkansas.net, Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu, ervint@u.arizona.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Wonder what Adrian does with the 50 gallon drums when the contents separates. beldon wade ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:16:38 -0600 From: Denton Thomas Subject: [Trombone-l] distressed TR150 fs To: List Trombone Message-ID: <45B553E6.2040003@usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If any of you are Holton lovers, or if you have an intermediate student looking for a horn, consider dropping me a note. I have a TR150 that needs a good home before I move overseas this summer. http://www.dentonlt.com/sale.html. Cheers, Denton -- DentonLT@usa.net / dentonlt.com +1.512.680.7395 DMA in Progress: Performance, Trombone The University of Texas at Austin ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:09:02 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] trombontine and the other creams (life) To: , , , Message-ID: <001e01c73ec5$be9ce060$0100a8c0@Adrian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com > > Wonder what Adrian does with the 50 gallon drums when the contents > separates. Add Guinness and give it a stir. Then I allow my wife to put it on her face to see if it's OK. A. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:43:43 -0500 From: "Charles Levine" Subject: [Trombone-l] Fw: x To: Message-ID: <000b01c73edb$5af8c040$20b01ad1@upstairs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Levine To: chardy2@totcon.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:42 AM Subject: Fwd: x ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: joniffer3@earthlink.net < joniffer3@earthlink.net> Date: Jan 22, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: x To: Charles Levine Jazz composer, teacher Jimmy Cheatham dies >From United Press International January 22, 2007 5:09 PM EST LA JOLLA, Calif., Jan 22, 2007 (UPI via COMTEX) -- Jimmy Cheatham, a jazz trombonist, arranger and composer, died in a La Jolla, Calif., hospital of a heart-related problem, his wife said. He was 82. Cheatham, who underwent a heart-related procedure in December, was preparing to tour with his band, including a performance scheduled in May at the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts in Washington, the Los Angeles Times said. In a decades-long career, Cheatham played bass trombone with the giants of jazz, Duke Ellington, Lionel Hampton and Ornette Coleman. Most recently, he played with his wife, Jeannie, in their Sweet Baby Blues Band, formed in the mid-1980s. Cheatham took his knowledge and love of jazz into the classroom in 1971, when he was invited to teach jazz at Bennington College in Vermont. In 1978, he was asked to head the jazz program at UC San Diego. Cheatham retired from UC, San Diego, in 2005. Besides his wife, Cheatham, who died Jan. 12, is survived by a daughter and a son. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:48:52 -0800 From: Dean Hubbard Subject: [Trombone-l] Al Cass doublers mouthpiece question To: "TROMBONE-L@server5.SAMFORD.EDU" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I?ve seen some ads on Ebay for an Al Cass mouthpiece with a trombone rim and a small cup and a trumpet shank. This makes doubling on trumpet easy(?) for trombonists. It would seem to me that in order to play a trumpet high C (Bb concert) you?d have to buzz a double high trombone Bb. Am I right on this one? Thanks, Dean Hubbard ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:08:14 -0700 From: "Steve Gamble" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Al Cass doublers mouthpiece question To: "Dean Hubbard" , Message-ID: <0B5C87139BED1C49B4CFA3563492DD8125B93F@srv01.tso.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Dean, Yes, you're right. No matter what the brass instrument, your lips buzz the pitch you want. Learning to think of your lips making the music makes doubling that much easier. I have a little exercise that I do where I randomly pick a mouthpiece from my pile (different sizes of trombone, bass trombone, tuba, and a horn and trumpet mouthpiece thrown in) and buzz a tune and then grab another and play the same tune, then grab another. The game is to pay as little attention to the mp as possible. Just buzz your notes. It's a good way to become more willing to rely on yourself instead of your instrument, an essential attitude for a doubler. Steve Gamble, Librarian Tucson Symphony Orchestra 2175 N. 6th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85705 520-792-9155 x118 office 520-792-9314 fax 520-991-7056 cell sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org www.tucsonsymphony.org -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@maillists.samford.edu] On Behalf Of Dean Hubbard Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:49 AM To: TROMBONE-L@server5.SAMFORD.EDU Subject: [Trombone-l] Al Cass doublers mouthpiece question I?ve seen some ads on Ebay for an Al Cass mouthpiece with a trombone rim and a small cup and a trumpet shank. This makes doubling on trumpet easy(?) for trombonists. It would seem to me that in order to play a trumpet high C (Bb concert) you?d have to buzz a double high trombone Bb. Am I right on this one? Thanks, Dean Hubbard _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 24, Issue 23 ******************************************