Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9 Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Angie's letter (Wayne Dyess) 2. Fwd: Angie's letter (Wayne Dyess) 3. Re: Angie's letter (David W. Buckley) 4. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (David W. Buckley) 5. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (Howard Lamb) 6. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (Eric Edwards) 7. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (Walter Barrett) 8. Re: Angie's letter (Angie Brunk) 9. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (Chris Tune) 10. Re: Angie's letter (Phil Brink) 11. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (Chris Tune) 12. This is a switch! (Wayne Dyess) 13. Larry O'Brien (Charles Levine) 14. Re: Angie's letter (Howard Weiner) 15. Re: Fwd: Angie's letter (Howard Spindel) 16. Re: Angie's letter (Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Ansbach DPW) 17. Bolero (Samuel Keyser) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:58:10 -0600 From: Wayne Dyess Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter To: Chris Tune Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: <272C5F28-2922-4FAF-9F92-FE7F67FEE7BC@gt.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: > I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the > conductor. . . .It's not > like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . > > Chris Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. :-) Wayne ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:32:04 -0600 From: Wayne Dyess Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: Trombone-L Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Ummmm. Begin forwarded message: > > On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: > >> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >> conductor. . . .It's not >> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >> >> Chris > > > Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. > > :-) > > Wayne ====== I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No offense, Angie. Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U Smiles, Wayne ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:00:10 -0500 From: "David W. Buckley" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter To: "Chris Tune" , "Eric Edwards" , "Trombone-L" , "Angie Brunk" Message-ID: <000701c73357$39155860$e7458d18@Buckley> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original My recollection of previous letters from Angie is that she has said she is visually challenged. Does whether she looks at the conductor or not make any difference? Tell us please Angie! Dave Buckley. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Tune" To: "Eric Edwards" ; "Trombone-L" ; "Angie Brunk" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter >I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the conductor. . . .It's not > like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Edwards" > To: "Trombone-L" ; "Angie Brunk" > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter > > >> You actually publicly admit, and on the Trombone-L, that you watch the >> conductor??!?!?!?!?!?! >> >> Definitely in dire need of a HEALTHY dose of Guinness!! 8P >> >> Eric >> >> >> Eric, Leandra, Sara, Jared & Lily >> Edwards >> "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low >> price has faded" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: trombone-l-bounces@server5.samford.edu >> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@server5.samford.edu]On Behalf Of Angie Brunk >> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:33 PM >> To: Charles Levine >> Cc: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu >> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter >> >> Naw...I figured we'd have enough trouble pulling off Carmina >> Burana. Though now that you mention it, I DO always stand front row >> center so I can actually SEE the conductor. I wonder what sort of >> conductor torments I could work out for the next concert! >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Charles Levine wrote: >> >>> You pulled off his pants while he was conducting? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 > 6:29 PM > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:06:19 -0500 From: "David W. Buckley" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: "Wayne Dyess" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <001101c73358$14a6e8d0$e7458d18@Buckley> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Dyess" To: "Trombone-L" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > Ummmm. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> >> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: >> >>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >>> conductor. . . .It's not >>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >>> >>> Chris >> >> >> Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. >> >> :-) >> >> Wayne > > ====== > > I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No > offense, Angie. > > Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U > > > Smiles, > Wayne > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 > 6:29 PM > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:50:16 -0600 From: "Howard Lamb" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: "David W. Buckley" , "Wayne Dyess" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <000901c7335e$393d0070$6500a8c0@howard> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Might be Bruce Fowler. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Buckley" To: "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player? > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Dyess" > To: "Trombone-L" > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM > Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > > >> Ummmm. >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: >>> >>>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >>>> conductor. . . .It's not >>>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >>>> >>>> Chris >>> >>> >>> Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> Wayne >> >> ====== >> >> I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No >> offense, Angie. >> >> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U >> >> >> Smiles, >> Wayne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 >> 6:29 PM >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:14:47 -0600 From: "Eric Edwards" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: "Trombone-L" , "Howard Lamb" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That was my guess also. I think I remember the Fowler Bros. Being regulars in the Zappa band. Eric Eric, Leandra, Sara, Jared & Lily Edwards "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price has faded" -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@server5.samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@server5.samford.edu]On Behalf Of Howard Lamb Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:50 PM To: David W. Buckley; Wayne Dyess; Trombone-L Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter Might be Bruce Fowler. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Buckley" To: "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player? > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Dyess" > To: "Trombone-L" > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM > Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > > >> Ummmm. >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: >>> >>>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >>>> conductor. . . .It's not >>>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >>>> >>>> Chris >>> >>> >>> Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> Wayne >> >> ====== >> >> I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No >> offense, Angie. >> >> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U >> >> >> Smiles, >> Wayne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 >> 6:29 PM >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 > > _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:00:46 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: <9D3D4CAD-5F25-420D-A5B2-30692BEC0E8F@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 8, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Eric Edwards wrote: > That was my guess also. > > I think I remember the Fowler Bros. Being regulars in the Zappa band. > > Eric > > That's definitely Bruce Fowler. Hmmm, wonder what an audition committee would say about his rendition? Walter Barrett "Some men womanize. Some take to drink. Some play the trombone." -Jay Keyser Alto, tenor, bass trombones Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba Yamaha Artist/Clinician http://www.walterbarrett.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:14:39 -0600 From: Angie Brunk Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter To: "David W. Buckley" Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: <7541E353-7947-41CA-B0AA-C26F12DE08D3@cybersolvers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Not really, not matter where I stand, it just looks like some funny person waving their arms, especially if I forget to put in the contacts. ;-) Angie On Jan 8, 2007, at 1:00 PM, David W. Buckley wrote: > My recollection of previous letters from Angie is that she has said > she is visually challenged. Does whether she looks at the conductor > or not make any difference? Tell us please Angie! > > Dave Buckley. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 22:45:19 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: "Howard Lamb" , "David W. Buckley" , "Wayne Dyess" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <001401c733b9$bb5821b0$0300a8c0@athlon2800> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I can assure you just by looking at this visage on my (right now MUTE. . .I'm gonna get the audio fixed in a minute, dammit!) computer that this is none other than BRUCE FOWLER. Conductor: FRANK ZAPPA. I'd probably look at Frank, after all, he's smoking a cigarette. That somehow seems more "workman-like". . .in a sorta unsavory way. Just the kind of thing to "rivet" my attention. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Lamb" To: "David W. Buckley" ; "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > Might be Bruce Fowler. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Buckley" > To: "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > > >> That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player? >> >> Dave >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wayne Dyess" >> To: "Trombone-L" >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM >> Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >> >> >>> Ummmm. >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >>>>> conductor. . . .It's not >>>>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> Wayne >>> >>> ====== >>> >>> I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No >>> offense, Angie. >>> >>> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U >>> >>> >>> Smiles, >>> Wayne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 >>> 6:29 PM >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:50:27 -0600 From: "Phil Brink" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter To: "Angie Brunk" , "David W. Buckley" Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: <000e01c733ba$7885d980$6501a8c0@bigbox> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Back to something serious... for a minute! ;-) A colleague of mine here in Chicago has asked after music for trombone quartet [trio, quintet, etc.] WITH ORGAN! Does anyone on the list have information on this sort of thing. My brief perusal of the Web and of Hickeys hasn't turned up much... Phil Brink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Brunk" To: "David W. Buckley" Cc: "Trombone-L" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter > Not really, not matter where I stand, it just looks like some funny > person waving their arms, especially if I forget to put in the > contacts. ;-) > > Angie > > > > > On Jan 8, 2007, at 1:00 PM, David W. Buckley wrote: > >> My recollection of previous letters from Angie is that she has said >> she is visually challenged. Does whether she looks at the conductor >> or not make any difference? Tell us please Angie! >> >> Dave Buckley. > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:02:19 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: "Chris Tune" , "Howard Lamb" , "David W. Buckley" , "Wayne Dyess" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <004c01c733bc$1b54a9b0$0300a8c0@athlon2800> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Incidentally, Fowler hits EVERY note. . .some of them several times. And he has been very liberal with glissandi. His version is vastly more innovative (although the vehicle is really not the greatest. . .even Ravel admitted that often!) than the regular "off the rack" version that one would be forced to play if hired by a Symphony Orchestra (I'm sure the players in almost any orchestra could, each, come up with their own, unique interpretation. . but famously orchestras tend to want things to be adhered to certain standard approaches). I personally like doing the Ravel Bolero as if I was the reincarnation of Tommy Dorsey. I try to stay very immaculately glass-like with the sound and vibrato ala 1930's 1940's. I do this because I've read about Ravel's reasons for including the trombone solo (He liked the way Tommy Dorsey sounded--he was thinking of having this done a la TD--also Diner did it for me once that way, and it sounded pretty cool). Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Tune" To: "Howard Lamb" ; "David W. Buckley" ; "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >I can assure you just by looking at this visage on my (right now MUTE. . > .I'm gonna get the audio fixed in a minute, dammit!) computer that this is > none other than BRUCE FOWLER. > > Conductor: FRANK ZAPPA. > > I'd probably look at Frank, after all, he's smoking a cigarette. That > somehow seems more "workman-like". . .in a sorta unsavory way. Just the > kind of thing to "rivet" my attention. > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Howard Lamb" > To: "David W. Buckley" ; "Wayne Dyess" > ; "Trombone-L" > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > > >> Might be Bruce Fowler. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David W. Buckley" >> To: "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" >> >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >> >> >>> That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player? >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Wayne Dyess" >>> To: "Trombone-L" >>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM >>> Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >>> >>> >>>> Ummmm. >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >>>>>> conductor. . . .It's not >>>>>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. >>>>> >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> ====== >>>> >>>> I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No >>>> offense, Angie. >>>> >>>> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U >>>> >>>> >>>> Smiles, >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trombone-l mailing list >>>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: >>>> 1/7/2007 >>>> 6:29 PM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:18:30 -0600 From: Wayne Dyess Subject: [Trombone-l] This is a switch! To: Bone List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Here's a switch! --> Larry O'Brien & the Glenn Miller Orchestra "I'm Gettin' Sentimental Over You." I don't know when this was recorded, but Larry sounds terrific. Tommy who? :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40LQ60XDoDQ ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 04:47:24 -0500 From: "Charles Levine" Subject: [Trombone-l] Larry O'Brien To: Message-ID: <001001c733d3$2b828ac0$45b01ad1@upstairs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Larry is a pretty unkown excellent bone player. He's been fronting the Miller band for many years. He solos very little, but when he does, it's great. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:53:59 +0100 From: Howard Weiner Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter To: "Phil Brink" Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20070109105237.011311f0@online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 00:50 09.01.2007 -0600, Phil Brink wrote: >Back to something serious... for a minute! ;-) > >A colleague of mine here in Chicago has asked after music for trombone >quartet [trio, quintet, etc.] WITH ORGAN! Does anyone on the list have >information on this sort of thing. My brief perusal of the Web and of >Hickeys hasn't turned up much... Phil, Most of the Braoque literature could (should) be done with organ continuo: Speer: 2 Sonatas for 3 trombones Speer: Sonata for 4 trombones Marini: Canzon for 4 trombones Howard -- Howard Weiner h.weiner@online.de http://www.harpa.com/howard-weiner/ If vegetarians eat only vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:25:33 -0800 From: Howard Spindel Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter To: "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20070109022253.01edd3a8@sci1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To listen to what Ravel might really have had in mind, get a copy of Bolero conducted by the man himself. Philips CD 420 778-2; also available on Pearl 72703199272 I had trouble finding the Philips version, but the Pearl version is readily available. The solo sounds nothing like you would hear on a typical Bolero recording. Howard At 11:02 PM 1/8/2007, Chris Tune wrote: >Incidentally, Fowler hits EVERY note. . .some of them several times. And he >has been very liberal with glissandi. > >His version is vastly more innovative (although the vehicle is really not >the greatest. . .even Ravel admitted that often!) than the regular "off the >rack" version that one would be forced to play if hired by a Symphony >Orchestra (I'm sure the players in almost any orchestra could, each, come up >with their own, unique interpretation. . but famously orchestras tend to >want things to be adhered to certain standard approaches). > >I personally like doing the Ravel Bolero as if I was the reincarnation of >Tommy Dorsey. I try to stay very immaculately glass-like with the sound and >vibrato ala 1930's 1940's. I do this because I've read about Ravel's >reasons for including the trombone solo (He liked the way Tommy Dorsey >sounded--he was thinking of having this done a la TD--also Diner did it for >me once that way, and it sounded pretty cool). > >Chris > > >>>> > >>>> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! > >>>> > >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U > >>>> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:17:36 +0100 From: "Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Ansbach DPW" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter To: Eric Edwards , Trombone-L , Angie Brunk Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Eric, And you believe her? C'mon, this is long time t-lister Angie we're talking about. First she claims to have graduated, then she claims to watch the conductor. Sorry, not buying it. Hee, hee. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Eric Edwards [mailto:eric@elsjledwards.net] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:50 AM To: Trombone-L; Angie Brunk Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter You actually publicly admit, and on the Trombone-L, that you watch the conductor??!?!?!?!?!?! Definitely in dire need of a HEALTHY dose of Guinness!! 8P Eric Eric, Leandra, Sara, Jared & Lily Edwards "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price has faded" -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@server5.samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@server5.samford.edu]On Behalf Of Angie Brunk Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:33 PM To: Charles Levine Cc: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Angie's letter Naw...I figured we'd have enough trouble pulling off Carmina Burana. Though now that you mention it, I DO always stand front row center so I can actually SEE the conductor. I wonder what sort of conductor torments I could work out for the next concert! Angie On Jan 7, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Charles Levine wrote: > You pulled off his pants while he was conducting? > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:23:56 -0500 From: Samuel Keyser Subject: [Trombone-l] Bolero To: Chris Tune Cc: List Trombone , Samuel Jay Keyser Message-ID: <0627231D-AC6B-410F-BFE2-E9CE19B9D9EB@mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In Richard Sudhalter's Lost Chords, he writes that Toscanini always hired Miff Mole when he was doing Bolero because Mole was the only trombone player he could trust to nail the high B-flat every time without fail. Mole was one of the great and innovative swing players whose role in trombone history has slipped (pun intended) off the screen. Jay On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Chris Tune wrote: > Incidentally, Fowler hits EVERY note. . .some of them several > times. And he > has been very liberal with glissandi. > > His version is vastly more innovative (although the vehicle is > really not > the greatest. . .even Ravel admitted that often!) than the regular > "off the > rack" version that one would be forced to play if hired by a Symphony > Orchestra (I'm sure the players in almost any orchestra could, > each, come up > with their own, unique interpretation. . but famously orchestras > tend to > want things to be adhered to certain standard approaches). > > I personally like doing the Ravel Bolero as if I was the > reincarnation of > Tommy Dorsey. I try to stay very immaculately glass-like with the > sound and > vibrato ala 1930's 1940's. I do this because I've read about > Ravel's > reasons for including the trombone solo (He liked the way Tommy Dorsey > sounded--he was thinking of having this done a la TD--also Diner > did it for > me once that way, and it sounded pretty cool). > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Tune" > To: "Howard Lamb" ; "David W. Buckley" > ; "Wayne Dyess" ; > "Trombone-L" > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter > > >> I can assure you just by looking at this visage on my (right now >> MUTE. . >> .I'm gonna get the audio fixed in a minute, dammit!) computer that >> this is >> none other than BRUCE FOWLER. >> >> Conductor: FRANK ZAPPA. >> >> I'd probably look at Frank, after all, he's smoking a cigarette. >> That >> somehow seems more "workman-like". . .in a sorta unsavory way. >> Just the >> kind of thing to "rivet" my attention. >> >> Chris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Howard Lamb" >> To: "David W. Buckley" ; "Wayne Dyess" >> ; "Trombone-L" >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >> >> >>> Might be Bruce Fowler. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David W. Buckley" >>> To: "Wayne Dyess" ; "Trombone-L" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >>> >>> >>>> That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player? >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Wayne Dyess" >>>> To: "Trombone-L" >>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM >>>> Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ummmm. >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the >>>>>>> conductor. . . .It's not >>>>>>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Right. I look at her, too, sometimes. >>>>>> >>>>>> :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Wayne >>>>> >>>>> ====== >>>>> >>>>> I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor. No >>>>> offense, Angie. >>>>> >>>>> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Smiles, >>>>> Wayne >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Trombone-l mailing list >>>>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>>>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/7/2007 >>>>> 6:29 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trombone-l mailing list >>>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: >>>> 1/7/2007 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l Samuel Jay Keyser Editor, Linguistic Inquiry Emeritus Professor of Linguistics Department of Linguistics and Philosophy MIT ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9 *****************************************