Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 11, Issue 6 Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2005 12:01 PM From: trombone-l-request@samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 11, Issue 6 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Mike Suter (Charles Levine) 2. Re: Trombone LP Covers (George Carr) 3. Re: Trombone LP Covers (lewismm@songs.sce.com) 4. RE: Trombone LP Covers (Harry Wootan) 5. Edwards Blog (Joshua Brown) 6. Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (Keith Marr) 7. shank too small for receiver (Charles Levine) 8. RE: shank too small for receiver (Steve Gamble) 9. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (Jeff Albert) 10. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (Roger Carmichael) 11. RE: One word: Pivot (Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW ERMD) 12. shank too small for receiver (Bruce Guttman) 13. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (Bruce Guttman) 14. Re: shank too small for receiver (Walter Barrett) 15. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (Keith Marr) 16. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (kzski) 17. Re: shank too small for receiver (BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com) 18. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (andy.skaggs@wachovia.com) 19. Valves (Keith Marr) 20. Re: Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone (George Carr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:58:01 -0500 From: "Charles Levine" Subject: [Trombone-l] Mike Suter To: Message-ID: <001901c5f9cd$e3e33f60$05b01ad1@upstairs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please contact me. charlie levine chardy2@totcon.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:52:58 -0500 From: George Carr Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone LP Covers To: "lewismm@songs.sce.com" Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you just need the cover art, and not the records inside the covers, you should be able to download lots of them. Many reissues of older LPs include the original cover art, like Frank's "Turn Me Loose" ( http://tinyurl.com/bp3ew ), and lots of vinyl collectors have posted cover art on the WWW (like this guy, who's scanned in most of Urbie's LP covers: http://www.kendowdy.com/recordings.htm ). Best of luck. George > For a visual arts project: Need to purchase several trombone-themed LP > covers in very good condition. Any clues as to where one finds such, > besides EBAY? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:11:28 -0800 From: lewismm@songs.sce.com Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone LP Covers To: George Carr Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the info about available cover art. I am, however, seeking actual album covers. Anybody know where to buy Watrous/Urbie/Fontana/other bone artist album covers in good condition? ML George Carr To "lewismm@songs.sce.com" 12/05/2005 10:52 AM cc Trombone-L Subject Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone LP Covers If you just need the cover art, and not the records inside the covers, you should be able to download lots of them. Many reissues of older LPs include the original cover art, like Frank's "Turn Me Loose" ( http://tinyurl.com/bp3ew ), and lots of vinyl collectors have posted cover art on the WWW (like this guy, who's scanned in most of Urbie's LP covers: http://www.kendowdy.com/recordings.htm ). Best of luck. George > For a visual arts project: Need to purchase several trombone-themed LP > covers in very good condition. Any clues as to where one finds such, > besides EBAY? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:51:28 -0600 From: "Harry Wootan" Subject: RE: [Trombone-l] Trombone LP Covers To: , "'Trombone-L'" Message-ID: <000001c5f9ff$31a68320$6401a8c0@WOOTAN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lots of LP's at "GEMM.com". But you generally won't be able to see the cover first. -- Harry -----Original Message----- From: lewismm@songs.sce.com [mailto:lewismm@songs.sce.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:13 AM To: Trombone-L Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone LP Covers For a visual arts project: Need to purchase several trombone-themed LP covers in very good condition. Any clues as to where one finds such, besides EBAY? Need to be able to see photo of the product online, good prices, convenient ordering, etc. Thanks Mark Lewis ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:18:37 -0600 From: Joshua Brown Subject: [Trombone-l] Edwards Blog To: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Shameless plug... I'd like to invite everyone to visit the Edwards Blog. We hope this page will provide greater insight into the company in a relaxed setting. You'll hear from Christan, Ron, Cathy, and occasionally myself on a variety of topics. http://www.edwards-instruments.com/blog/ Take care, Josh ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:36:03 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "Trombone-L" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Anyone have a view on this? Being primarily a bass trombonist I've never looked into Bach 6s. The serial number would suggest it's 1930-35. Keith in Bb/F/D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:08 AM Subject: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > Hi! I stumbled across your email address in an online discussion > regarding old trombones. My grandmother was a trombonist in the Boston > Symphony Orchestra in the early 1940s. She has kept her trombone, and is > now trying to decide whether it has any value (other than sentimental). > It is a Bach Stradivarius Model 6 (with "IV" in smaller letters right > after the model number) and is serial number 1705. I was wondering if you > could point me to a place where I could help her find a value for it? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Greg Brown > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:41:46 -0500 From: "Charles Levine" Subject: [Trombone-l] shank too small for receiver To: Message-ID: <000b01c5fa6a$ce788750$3fb01ad1@upstairs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How should I remedy the problem of my mouthpiece shank being a bit too small for the receiver? (it goes all the way in but doesn't wiggle around) ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 06:51:45 -0700 From: "Steve Gamble" Subject: RE: [Trombone-l] shank too small for receiver To: "Charles Levine" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's crude, but plumber's Teflon tape works. Steve Gamble, Librarian Tucson Symphony Orchestra 2175 N. 6th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85705 (520) 792-9155 x118 (520) 792-9314 fax (520) 991-7056 cel sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Levine Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:42 AM To: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Subject: [Trombone-l] shank too small for receiver How should I remedy the problem of my mouthpiece shank being a bit too small for the receiver? (it goes all the way in but doesn't wiggle around) _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 07:52:54 -0600 From: Jeff Albert Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "Keith Marr" Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Was there a female trombonist in the Boston Symphony in the 1940's?. Jeff ===================== Jeff Albert www.jeffalbert.com www.scratchmybrain.com On Dec 6, 2005, at 7:36 AM, Keith Marr wrote: > Anyone have a view on this? Being primarily a bass trombonist I've > never looked into Bach 6s. The serial number would suggest it's > 1930-35. > > Keith in Bb/F/D > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Brown" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:08 AM > Subject: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > > >> Hi! I stumbled across your email address in an online discussion >> regarding old trombones. My grandmother was a trombonist in the >> Boston Symphony Orchestra in the early 1940s. She has kept her >> trombone, and is now trying to decide whether it has any value >> (other than sentimental). It is a Bach Stradivarius Model 6 (with >> "IV" in smaller letters right after the model number) and is >> serial number 1705. I was wondering if you could point me to a >> place where I could help her find a value for it? >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Greg Brown > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:04:46 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Roger Carmichael Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: Keith Marr , Trombone-L Message-ID: <30027557.1133877887053.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No view, but specs are listed as .485 bore, 7 1/2" bell. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Marr Sent: Dec 6, 2005 8:36 AM To: Trombone-L Subject: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone Anyone have a view on this? Being primarily a bass trombonist I've never looked into Bach 6s. The serial number would suggest it's 1930-35. Keith in Bb/F/D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:08 AM Subject: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > Hi! I stumbled across your email address in an online discussion > regarding old trombones. My grandmother was a trombonist in the Boston > Symphony Orchestra in the early 1940s. She has kept her trombone, and is > now trying to decide whether it has any value (other than sentimental). > It is a Bach Stradivarius Model 6 (with "IV" in smaller letters right > after the model number) and is serial number 1705. I was wondering if you > could point me to a place where I could help her find a value for it? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Greg Brown > _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:05:17 +0100 From: "Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW ERMD" Subject: RE: [Trombone-l] One word: Pivot To: Steve Gamble , trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Go to this link http://members.aol.com/cc88m/PianoBook.htmland and check out an interesting free download on how to practice piano efficiently. It has some defects - bit of a verbose hyperbolic tone at times, maybe some unwarranted assertions. However some of it makes a lot of sense, and for sure there are gems buried in it. It is a rather intellectual approach - I think the author is a physicist or something. That is why I suggested, tongue-in-cheek of course, that it may not have appealed to you. I am not sure that you can really practice 37,000 times more efficiently, as he purports to prove, but apparently his daughters made it to concert pianist standard in 45 minutes per day, which sounds quite unusual. (Don't worry about wasting my jokes, I've got plenty more where that came from. Wacko ideas, too, an inexhaustible supply. ) Yours, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Steve Gamble [mailto:sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 18:48 ...ccchang's etreatise...I don't know what this is...another wasted joke wasted on me...oh well. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:12:07 -0500 From: Bruce Guttman Subject: [Trombone-l] shank too small for receiver To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: <200512061012_MC3-1-B1CA-876B@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message text written by "Charles Levine" > How should I remedy the problem of my mouthpiece shank being a bit too small for the receiver? (it goes all the way in but doesn't wiggle around) _< Steve's suggestion of plumber's tape or electrical tape is one solution. But to understand the problem, what model mouthpiece and what model trombone? For example: You have a Bach 12C [small shank] mouthpiece and a large bore [King 4B] trombone. In this case, you should get a larger shank mouthpiece. You can also get a shank adapter but these don't work very well. Example 2: You have a Bach 5G mouthpiece and an old Conn Elkhart 88H. This trombonr requires a special "Remington" taper mouthpiece and you should try to find one. Example 3: You have a Bach 12C mouthpiece and an old trombone with an intermediate size receiver (neither small shank nor large shank fit properly). You need to find a special mouthpiece with the appropriate shank or have the receiver modified to take a small shank mouthpiece. Hope this helps. Bruce Guttman Section Leader, Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra Solo Trombone, Hollis Town Band And others... ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:26:07 -0500 From: Bruce Guttman Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <200512061026_MC3-1-B1CA-87AC@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm almost certain this is a scam of some sort if it's for sale. 1. Doug Yeo's article on BSO low brass players from the start through 1985 includes no female players. 2. The Bach 6 is a small bore trombone (under 0.500"). The last player to use a small bore trombone in the BSO was probably Rochut, who left in the 1920's. 3. Raichman (1st trombone) at the time played a Bach 36 (525 bore). You might want to ask Doug Yeo a question about this offer, but the fact that it is being made to somebody out of country is pretty fishy to me. If he just wants a value, Steve Dillon at www.dillonmusic.com might be more than willing to help. Bruce Guttman Section Leader, Merrimack Valley (MA) Philharmonic Orchestra Solo Trombone, Hollis (NH) Town Band And more... ----- Original Message ----- Message text written by "Keith Marr" > Anyone have a view on this? Being primarily a bass trombonist I've never looked into Bach 6s. The serial number would suggest it's 1930-35. Keith in Bb/F/D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:08 AM Subject: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > Hi! I stumbled across your email address in an online discussion > regarding old trombones. My grandmother was a trombonist in the Boston > Symphony Orchestra in the early 1940s. She has kept her trombone, and is > now trying to decide whether it has any value (other than sentimental). > It is a Bach Stradivarius Model 6 (with "IV" in smaller letters right > after the model number) and is serial number 1705. I was wondering if you > could point me to a place where I could help her find a value for it? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Greg Brown > < ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:44:50 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] shank too small for receiver To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: <8583EEA4-5A5E-475D-B0EC-1441180BC438@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Dec 6, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bruce Guttman wrote: > Message text written by "Charles Levine" >> > How should I remedy the problem of my mouthpiece shank being a bit too > small for the receiver? (it goes all the way in but doesn't wiggle > around) > _< > > Steve's suggestion of plumber's tape or electrical tape is one > solution. > But to understand the problem, what model mouthpiece and what model > trombone? > > For example: You have a Bach 12C [small shank] mouthpiece and a > large bore > [King 4B] trombone. In this case, you should get a larger shank > mouthpiece. You can also get a shank adapter but these don't work > very > well. > > Example 2: You have a Bach 5G mouthpiece and an old Conn Elkhart 88H. > This trombone requires a special "Remington" taper mouthpiece and you > should try to find one. > > Example 3: You have a Bach 12C mouthpiece and an old trombone > with an > intermediate size receiver (neither small shank nor large shank fit > properly). You need to find a special mouthpiece with the appropriate > shank or have the receiver modified to take a small shank mouthpiece. > > Hope this helps. > > Bruce Guttman > Section Leader, Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra > Solo Trombone, Hollis Town Band > And others... Another possibility is just that the shank fits in too far, Bach makes a "Tenor Trombone Mouthpiece Extension." This will only fit a small shank mpce. in a small shank horn, but will serve as a higher tech substitute for taping the shank. If your mpce. fits fine in another horn, this at least will save you having to remove tape if you want to use the mpce. in the other horn. Walter Barrett ãYou blow in this one end- and a sound comes out the other end that disrupts the universe.ä -Roswell Rudd, on the trombone Alto, tenor, bass trombones Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba Yamaha Artist/Clinician http://www.walterbarrett.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:16:37 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "Bruce Guttman" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I think the points Bruce and others have made are worth bearing in mind. Certainly I, as a bass trombonist, wouldn't be interested in a Bach 6 anyway so there's no chance of my falling for any scam. Regarding the comment about him being out of the country. I do think he's in the USA, it is my address that is the UK one. I will refer him to Steve Dillon and leave it at that. Cheers all! Keith in Bb/F/D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Guttman" To: "Trombone-L" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > I'm almost certain this is a scam of some sort if it's for sale. > > 1. Doug Yeo's article on BSO low brass players from the start through > 1985 > includes no female players. > > 2. The Bach 6 is a small bore trombone (under 0.500"). The last player > to > use a small bore trombone in the BSO was probably Rochut, who left in the > 1920's. > > 3. Raichman (1st trombone) at the time played a Bach 36 (525 bore). > > You might want to ask Doug Yeo a question about this offer, but the fact > that it is being made to somebody out of country is pretty fishy to me. > > If he just wants a value, Steve Dillon at www.dillonmusic.com might be > more > than willing to help. > > Bruce Guttman > Section Leader, Merrimack Valley (MA) Philharmonic Orchestra > Solo Trombone, Hollis (NH) Town Band > And more... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Message text written by "Keith Marr" >> > Anyone have a view on this? Being primarily a bass trombonist I've never > looked into Bach 6s. The serial number would suggest it's 1930-35. > > Keith in Bb/F/D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Brown" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:08 AM > Subject: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > >> Hi! I stumbled across your email address in an online discussion >> regarding old trombones. My grandmother was a trombonist in the Boston >> Symphony Orchestra in the early 1940s. She has kept her trombone, and is > >> now trying to decide whether it has any value (other than sentimental). >> It is a Bach Stradivarius Model 6 (with "IV" in smaller letters right >> after the model number) and is serial number 1705. I was wondering if > > you could point me to a place where I could help her find a value for > > it? >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Greg Brown ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:22:03 -0600 From: "kzski" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <002301c5fa81$3178c250$6c4e4a44@DHN0MQ21> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The Bach NY Model 6 bell was 7 inches not 7 1/2 inches. Also, contact DJ Kennedy about what it might be worth. DJ is acutely aware of the "trombone market place." Hary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Carmichael" To: "Keith Marr" ; "Trombone-L" Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > No view, but specs are listed as .485 bore, 7 1/2" bell. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:31:49 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] shank too small for receiver To: chardy2@totcon.com, Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <208.e9d9e4e.30c716f5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Some music stores that sell instruments may have just the adapter you need. beldon wade ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:06:49 -0500 From: andy.skaggs@wachovia.com Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "Keith Marr" Cc: Trombone-L Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" There's a piece on the Shires website that profiles Karna Millen, and it prominently mentions that she was the first female trombonist ever to play in the Boston Symphony section. If this is a scam, it's not a very good one, as these things are rather easily researched. It could be that he's just remembering wrong. Maybe she played in a different orchestra, or maybe she studied with someone in the BSO. At any rate, if this person's grandmother was playing at a professional level at one point, she would probably have a good idea of the value of her instrument. Having said that, if the horn is the genuine article, and depending on it's condition, I'd guess it could fetch $1500-2000. That would be the high end of the spectrum. By the way, don't let the size fool you. Those old NY Bachs "play" bigger than the .485 bore would suggest. Same incidentally with the old Conn 44H, 4H and the like (but I digress...). - Andy "Keith Marr" Sent by: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu 12/06/2005 08:36 AM To "Trombone-L" cc Subject [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone Anyone have a view on this? Being primarily a bass trombonist I've never looked into Bach 6s. The serial number would suggest it's 1930-35. Keith in Bb/F/D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:08 AM Subject: Bach Stradivarius Trombone > Hi! I stumbled across your email address in an online discussion > regarding old trombones. My grandmother was a trombonist in the Boston > Symphony Orchestra in the early 1940s. She has kept her trombone, and is > now trying to decide whether it has any value (other than sentimental). > It is a Bach Stradivarius Model 6 (with "IV" in smaller letters right > after the model number) and is serial number 1705. I was wondering if you > could point me to a place where I could help her find a value for it? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Greg Brown > _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ForwardSourceID:NT0003DBCE ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:25:17 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: [Trombone-l] Valves To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Given the increasing proliferation of valve designs (Thayer, Greenhoe, Hagmann, Trubore, K, Lindberg, and Rotax being just the ones I know of) is there a site where there is an appraisal of each in turn by someone who has no commercial interest in them. If there isn't I think it would be a valuable addition to our resources, especially to us bassers. Keith in Bb/F/D ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:43:18 -0500 From: George Carr Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fw: Bach Stradivarius Trombone To: "andy.skaggs@wachovia.com" Cc: Trombone-L , Keith Marr Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > By the way, don't let the size fool you. Those old NY Bachs > "play" bigger than the .485 bore would suggest. Same incidentally with > the old Conn 44H, 4H and the like (but I digress...). Agreed: I dusted off an old NY Bach 6 for a big-band job, and was quite surprised at how warm the sound is. And it takes plenty of air without cracking or complaining, which makes things easy when switching back and forth to a .547 horn. I ended up putting my King 3B back in the closet and moving the Bach 6 to the gig bag. George ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 11, Issue 6 *****************************************