Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 23 Date: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 23 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sharman King's comments on Kanstul trombones (Eric & Candice Swanson) 2. Horns and mouthpieces for sale... (Atlbrvsnt@aol.com) 3. Elkjer recordings (Hans du Plooy) 4. Clarification--Horns and mouthpieces for sale... (Atlbrvsnt@aol.com) 5. Straight 42 for sale (Jeff Albert) 6. Edwards bass bell for sale (Jeff Albert) 7. Re: Sharman King's comments on Kanstul trombones (hlmswlkr@ozemail.com.au) 8. 2nd Attempt--horns/mouthpieces for sale (Atlbrvsnt@aol.com) 9. Re: Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing (Chris Tune) 10. Re: Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing (John Monroe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:03:24 -0600 From: Eric & Candice Swanson Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Sharman King's comments on Kanstul trombones To: Keith Marr Cc: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <43FCD19C.5040807@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Keith Marr wrote: > >......Hence my query about the Kanstul 1662i. I like in-slide tuning and am >looking for this combined with in-line valves. I think the 1662i is the only >horn on the market with this layout, unless you have a custom job done. > > > Keith, I think you'll find that Gary Greenhoe is making a Conn 62H with tuning in the slide and his valves are in-line. So that's something to think about. Eric Swanson ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:45:08 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com Subject: [Trombone-l] Horns and mouthpieces for sale... To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <148.55c040ba.312e5184@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have a couple of odd horns for sale and some random mouthpieces...selling them so I can buy an alto. Send me an email if you're interested and i'll take some pics and send them to you. If nobody responds in a few days, they go to eBay. I will accept payment via PayPal at this email address and ship via UPS. Olds Super Star: Silver plate, .495-.510 dual bore with F-attachment in "flat wrap." Manufactured in the late 70's--one of the last trombones the "real" Olds factory made. It plays bigger than the bore size would indicate--it has served as a backup to both my large bore tenor and my peashooter. It has a strong pedal range and is good up high too. Some plating is missing from the slide--I suspect whoever had it before me either sweated a lot or just had very acidic sweat. I would rate the slide as about 8 out of 10--it has a little ding that affects it when the lube starts to wear off. Original case is very sturdy, reminiscent of the King "coffin" cases except heavier. Also includes original "Olds 1" mouthpiece, around a 6 1/2 size. I'll sell for $385 US including shipping to the USA. Reynolds Contempora Bass I don't want to start this debate, but this is the model that some people believe was the first commercially available dual-valve bass in America. .562 bore Bb/F/(flat)E horn with a rose brass bell and the interesting wrap on the valves that Reynolds was famous for. While not physically attractive because a lot of lacquer is missing (good candidate for a lacquer strip job!), this horn is mechanically in very good shape. I had the slide aligned by Dr. Upchurch, who made it almost perfect--9.5 out of 10 in my opinion. Both valves are nice and fast given a little oil, and all tuning slides pull freely. I don't have the original case for this one, so I'll send it with a cheap gig bag. I'll let go of this one for $650 US including shipping in the USA. Mouthpieces: -Christian Lindberg 5 CL in gold plate (large shank). $50 US including shipping in USA. I also have a bunch of old mouthpieces I'm never going to use...small shank unless noted... -Benge 12C -Benge 6 1/2 AL -2 Conn 3's (one from the 50's, one from the 70's, identical in appearance but the older one is smaller) -King 29 (Large Shank, about the size of a Bach 3G with a shallower cup) -EZ Tone mouthpiece (funnel shaped, small) -B&H Kosikup 1 1/2 (smallest trombone mouthpiece I have ever seen...maybe it went with those old british very small bore horns?) $55 US for the lot (minus the Lindberg), including shipping in the USA. Thanks for looking, Tommy Cox Thomas B. Cox Graduate Teaching Assistant UGA Music Education ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:56:27 +0200 From: Hans du Plooy Subject: [Trombone-l] Elkjer recordings To: TROMBONE-L@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <1140652587.8545.14.camel@theluggage.hansdp.za.net> Content-Type: text/plain Hi guys, Every so often I get a mail from Robert Elkjer spamming me about his new arrangements. Don't mind that really. The last one included links to two mp3 files, "Do Nothing" and "It Don't Mean A Thing" - awesome arrangements! Does anyone know who the band is? Any CDs available? I'd like to add this to my collection. Thanks Hans ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:23:54 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com Subject: [Trombone-l] Clarification--Horns and mouthpieces for sale... To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <36.3eece7c.312e5a9a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I just realized I made it sound like a lot of plating is missing from the _inner_ slides on the Olds...that's not the case, just the outer :) And the Reynolds bass dates from about 1960. Forgot to mention that. Tommy ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:46:20 -0600 From: Jeff Albert Subject: [Trombone-l] Straight 42 for sale To: Trombone List Message-ID: <27E636B2-F393-4103-94BF-7FE0150FC978@jeffalbert.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am selling this horn for a friend. Bach 42. Serial #37697 "ELKHART, IND." Straight 42, brass slide with nickel sleeves, brass crook. Dent in bell stem near tuning slide brace. Mute kisses and normal lacquer wear. Was owned by Per Brevig two owners ago. Not that this makes it worth more, but might provide confidence that it isn't a dog. No case. $900 US shipping included, or make offer. Go to http://jeffalbert.com/for_sale/ for pictures. Thanks, Jeff www.jeffalbert.com (225) 303-6226 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:47:55 -0600 From: Jeff Albert Subject: [Trombone-l] Edwards bass bell for sale To: Trombone List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am selling this for a friend. Edwards Bass trombone bell model 1725 CF. 10 in yellow brass. $450 US shipping included or make offer. Go to http://jeffalbert.com/for_sale/ and scroll to the bottom of the page for a picture. Thanks, Jeff www.jeffalbert.com (225) 303-6226 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:26:53 +0800 From: hlmswlkr@ozemail.com.au Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Sharman King's comments on Kanstul trombones To: swan325@earthlink.net Cc: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu, Keith Marr Message-ID: <20060223092653.2cn3jb2qulsssswk@mymail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Hi all, Have to jump in here, re Greenhoe. The inline 62 TIS horn by Greebhoe absolutly ROCKS!! OK, yes I admit that I'm herer in Jackson WI right now interviewing with Gary to maybe come and work full time, but he's NOT paying me to say this (infact he hasn't paid me at all yet....hmmm, have to work on that one;-) The first horn I blew when I got here was a 62H TIS independant with red brass valve tubing. Now I've been playing an Elkhart 62 for a few years now, and thought it was a great horn, but this new one is stellar. I'd recommend it, unquestionably. Great sound, fantastic easy feel, nice slide. I did say I'd be happy to be paid in horns for this 4 weeks... now there's a thought! Cheers, Matthew Walker Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia Walker's Instrument Repair, "The Brassery" > Keith, > > I think you'll find that Gary Greenhoe is making a Conn 62H with tuning > in the slide and his valves are in-line. So that's something to think > about. > > Eric Swanson ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using MyMail ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:34:42 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com Subject: [Trombone-l] 2nd Attempt--horns/mouthpieces for sale To: trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I don't think my first try at posting this made it to everyone's mailboxes so I'm trying again. I apologize if you got both copies. I have a couple of odd horns for sale and some random mouthpieces...selling them so I can buy an alto.? Send me an email if you're interested and i'll take some pics and send them to you.? If nobody responds in a few days, they go to eBay.? I will accept payment via PayPal at this email address and ship via UPS. Olds Super Star: Silver plate, .495-.510 dual bore with F-attachment in "flat wrap."? Manufactured in the late 70's--one of the last trombones the "real" Olds factory made.? It plays bigger than the bore size would indicate--it has served as a backup to both my large bore tenor and my peashooter.? It has a strong pedal range and is good up high too.? Some plating is missing from the slide--I suspect whoever had it before me either sweated a lot or just had very acidic sweat.? I would rate the slide as about 8 out of 10--it has a little ding that affects it when the lube starts to wear off.? Original case is very sturdy, reminiscent of the King "coffin" cases except heavier.? Also includes original "Olds 1" mouthpiece, around a 6 1/2 size.? I'll sell for $385 US including shipping to the USA. Reynolds Contempora Bass I don't want to start this debate, but this is the model that some people believe was the first commercially available dual-valve bass in America.? .562 bore Bb/F/(flat)E horn with a rose brass bell and the interesting wrap on the valves that Reynolds was famous for.? While not physically attractive because a lot of lacquer is missing (good candidate for a lacquer strip job!), this horn is mechanically in very good shape.? I had the slide aligned by Dr. Upchurch, who made it almost perfect--9.5 out of 10 in my opinion.? Both valves are nice and fast given a little oil, and all tuning slides pull freely.? I don't have the original case for this one, so I'll send it with a cheap gig bag.? I'll let go of this one for $650 US including shipping in the USA. Mouthpieces: -Christian Lindberg 5 CL in gold plate (large shank). $50 US including shipping in USA. I also have a bunch of old mouthpieces I'm never going to use...small shank unless noted... -Benge 12C -Benge 6 1/2 AL -2 Conn 3's (one from the 50's, one from the 70's, identical in appearance but the older one is smaller) -King 29 (Large Shank, about the size of a Bach 3G with a shallower cup) -EZ Tone mouthpiece (funnel shaped, small) -B&H Kosikup 1 1/2 (smallest trombone mouthpiece I have ever seen...maybe it went with those old british very small bore horns?) $55 US for the lot (minus the Lindberg), including shipping in the USA. Thanks for looking, Tommy Cox Thomas B. Cox Graduate Teaching Assistant UGA Music Education ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:52:44 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing To: "Richard Barrett" , "'Daryl Burch'" , "'Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW'" Cc: trombone-L@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <003201c6384e$225c32b0$0400a8c0@athlon2800> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original It's funny but this reminds me of the time I played "Princess Leia's Theme" as a wedding tune. It is really quite beautiful and was much more current when I performed this in the late nineteen seventies. Of course trombone is a great ballad instrument, so this is a natural. I think there are quite a few truly beautiful tunes which are fundamentally "commercial music". You just need to be discriminating and look for what Duke Ellington might have categorized as "good". . .(he mentioned two types--good, and the rest). Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Barrett" To: "'Daryl Burch'" ; "'Richardson,Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing > Many thanks to everybody who has offered some suggestions on this - they > have really helped focus the mind. As it's a civic wedding it seems there > may be restrictions on 'religious music' but we are investigating this. > Not > that this is a problem for my friends as they are not particularly > religious. The way things are heading at the minute is towards some light > secular music with the choices coming from (drum roll) > > Summertime > Wind Beneath my Wings > Misty > > I'm toying with the idea of Everybody (loves somebody) from the Blues > Brothers as its such a happy tune. > > Interestingly - no surprise here - the trumpet guys have a much better > selection of play along music than we do. Only one of these tunes is from > a > trombone book! > > I'll let you know the outcome of the process later. > > Best wishes > > Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Daryl Burch [mailto:darylburch@speakeasy.net] > Sent: 21 February 2006 16:56 > To: Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW > Cc: 'eliezer aharoni'; trombone-L@server5.samford.edu; Richard Barrett > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing > > I had to do this for my sister's wedding.... Most Christian bookstores > (in the states anyway) have sing-a-long tapes/CDs. Just have to hunt > down one that works. I ended up doing "The Lord's Prayer"--short, > sweet, no backing vocals, hard as h$@#$---lots of long notes. > > Or you could just do an a capella version of "Besame Mucho" or > something similar. If it's a _small_ party, why make it more > complicated than it has to be. They want you to play because they want > to hear YOU play at their wedding. I'm sure they don't care how you do > it. > > I used a tape because of my phobia of standing up in front of 300 > people I grew up in front of and not wanting to suck. Crowd of > 10,000--no problem! Home church that's known me since I was in > Huggies--big problem! Don't know why. Just the way I'm wired I guess. > > Best of luck! Let me know what you end up doing (off list if you like). > > Cheers! > -D- > www.radionoise.com <- Rock star by night > www.burchinteractive.com <- Tech-nerd by day #;-) > > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 11:06 PM, Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG > Franconia DPW wrote: > >> It's all available if you don't mind typing. >> >> Take a music notation program and your accompaniment and make your own >> CD. >> >> It's faster if you have a MIDI keyboard and good skills. I have the >> keyboard but I'm faster with the mouse . >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Barrett [mailto:richard.barrett93@ntlworld.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 18:38 >> To: 'eliezer aharoni'; trombone-L@server5.samford.edu >> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing >> >> On the subject of wedding music a friend has asked me to play solo at >> their >> wedding. Civic facility so no piano for accompaniment! It's a small >> wedding party of about 10. I cannot get out of this so was thinking of >> using one of those play along CDs. Any recommendations about what >> might be >> available in UK? >> >> Richard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu >> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] >> On Behalf Of eliezer aharoni >> Sent: 16 February 2006 08:10 >> To: trombone-L@server5.samford.edu >> Subject: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing >> >> Mentioning wedding music, I've just arranged Mendelsohn's Wedding >> March in >> Jazz style for 4 trombones and Tuba. This arrangement is for the coming >> wedding of Hannoh Dayag (Atilla Hallas) Bass trombonist of Rishon >> Lezion (& >> Tel Aviv Opera) on February 23. >> >> Anybody interested in this arrangement - it's free of charge, but I'd >> like >> somebody to volunteer to host it on his website (I don't have one) >> I'll send >> it in PDF format + Midi file. >> >> Thanks & Best wishes >> >> Eliezer Aharoni >> Former Bass Trombonist, Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra >> Author: New Method for the Modern Bass Trombone Avilable from Hickey's >> (USA) >> Warwick, MusT (England) POB 4025, Jerusalem ISRAEL 91040 Phone ++972 2 >> 5341333 cell 0524 868866 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:10:48 -0800 From: John Monroe Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing To: Chris Tune Cc: trombone-L@server5.samford.edu, "'Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW'" Message-ID: <76395A97-C5D8-4BDF-A8B1-A8FE6159E217@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed WHich of course puts me in mind of "In a Sentimental Mood". A fine and beautiful Ellington tune for a wedding. John Monroe On Feb 22, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Chris Tune wrote: > It's funny but this reminds me of the time I played "Princess > Leia's Theme" > as a wedding tune. It is really quite beautiful and was much more > current > when I performed this in the late nineteen seventies. Of course > trombone is > a great ballad instrument, so this is a natural. > > I think there are quite a few truly beautiful tunes which are > fundamentally > "commercial music". You just need to be discriminating and look > for what > Duke Ellington might have categorized as "good". . .(he mentioned two > types--good, and the rest). > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Barrett" > To: "'Daryl Burch'" ; > "'Richardson,Timothy Mr. DAC > USAG Franconia DPW'" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing > > >> Many thanks to everybody who has offered some suggestions on this >> - they >> have really helped focus the mind. As it's a civic wedding it >> seems there >> may be restrictions on 'religious music' but we are investigating >> this. >> Not >> that this is a problem for my friends as they are not particularly >> religious. The way things are heading at the minute is towards >> some light >> secular music with the choices coming from (drum roll) >> >> Summertime >> Wind Beneath my Wings >> Misty >> >> I'm toying with the idea of Everybody (loves somebody) from the Blues >> Brothers as its such a happy tune. >> >> Interestingly - no surprise here - the trumpet guys have a much >> better >> selection of play along music than we do. Only one of these tunes >> is from >> a >> trombone book! >> >> I'll let you know the outcome of the process later. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Richard >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Daryl Burch [mailto:darylburch@speakeasy.net] >> Sent: 21 February 2006 16:56 >> To: Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG Franconia DPW >> Cc: 'eliezer aharoni'; trombone-L@server5.samford.edu; Richard >> Barrett >> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing >> >> I had to do this for my sister's wedding.... Most Christian >> bookstores >> (in the states anyway) have sing-a-long tapes/CDs. Just have to hunt >> down one that works. I ended up doing "The Lord's Prayer"--short, >> sweet, no backing vocals, hard as h$@#$---lots of long notes. >> >> Or you could just do an a capella version of "Besame Mucho" or >> something similar. If it's a _small_ party, why make it more >> complicated than it has to be. They want you to play because they >> want >> to hear YOU play at their wedding. I'm sure they don't care how >> you do >> it. >> >> I used a tape because of my phobia of standing up in front of 300 >> people I grew up in front of and not wanting to suck. Crowd of >> 10,000--no problem! Home church that's known me since I was in >> Huggies--big problem! Don't know why. Just the way I'm wired I guess. >> >> Best of luck! Let me know what you end up doing (off list if you >> like). >> >> Cheers! >> -D- >> www.radionoise.com <- Rock star by night >> www.burchinteractive.com <- Tech-nerd by day #;-) >> >> >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 11:06 PM, Richardson, Timothy Mr. DAC USAG >> Franconia DPW wrote: >> >>> It's all available if you don't mind typing. >>> >>> Take a music notation program and your accompaniment and make >>> your own >>> CD. >>> >>> It's faster if you have a MIDI keyboard and good skills. I have the >>> keyboard but I'm faster with the mouse . >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Barrett [mailto:richard.barrett93@ntlworld.com] >>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 18:38 >>> To: 'eliezer aharoni'; trombone-L@server5.samford.edu >>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing >>> >>> On the subject of wedding music a friend has asked me to play >>> solo at >>> their >>> wedding. Civic facility so no piano for accompaniment! It's a >>> small >>> wedding party of about 10. I cannot get out of this so was >>> thinking of >>> using one of those play along CDs. Any recommendations about what >>> might be >>> available in UK? >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu >>> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] >>> On Behalf Of eliezer aharoni >>> Sent: 16 February 2006 08:10 >>> To: trombone-L@server5.samford.edu >>> Subject: [Trombone-l] Wedding Music- Mendelsohn in swing >>> >>> Mentioning wedding music, I've just arranged Mendelsohn's Wedding >>> March in >>> Jazz style for 4 trombones and Tuba. This arrangement is for the >>> coming >>> wedding of Hannoh Dayag (Atilla Hallas) Bass trombonist of Rishon >>> Lezion (& >>> Tel Aviv Opera) on February 23. >>> >>> Anybody interested in this arrangement - it's free of charge, but >>> I'd >>> like >>> somebody to volunteer to host it on his website (I don't have one) >>> I'll send >>> it in PDF format + Midi file. >>> >>> Thanks & Best wishes >>> >>> Eliezer Aharoni >>> Former Bass Trombonist, Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra >>> Author: New Method for the Modern Bass Trombone Avilable from >>> Hickey's >>> (USA) >>> Warwick, MusT (England) POB 4025, Jerusalem ISRAEL 91040 Phone + >>> +972 2 >>> 5341333 cell 0524 868866 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >>> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 23 ******************************************