Subject: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 15 Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:00 PM From: trombone-l-request@samford.edu Reply-To: trombone-l@samford.edu To: Conversation: Trombone-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 15 Send Trombone-l mailing list submissions to trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to trombone-l-request@maillists.samford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at trombone-l-owner@maillists.samford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Trombone-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Widgets (Walter Barrett) 2. Re: Widgets (Chris Tune) 3. Re: Widgets (Keith Marr) 4. Re: Widgets (Adrian Drover) 5. Re: Widgets (Adrian Drover) 6. Check THIS out (Peter Soukup) 7. Maybe this link works better (Peter Soukup) 8. no pain no gain (dslide13@aol.com) 9. Dvorak 9 (Pat McFarland) 10. Re: Dvorak 9 (Keith Marr) 11. Bach slide tube needed (Mike Loewen) 12. Re: Edwards on eBay (Eric & Candice Swanson) 13. Re: Dvorak 9 (Steve Gamble) 14. [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] (Raymond Horton) 15. Re: [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] (Chris Tune) 16. Re: Dvorak 9 (Raymond Horton) 17. Re: [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] (Raymond Horton) 18. Re: Dvorak 9 (Walter Barrett) 19. Trombone Recital at Tennessee Tech University, Friday, February 24 (Joshua Hauser) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:31:33 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Widgets To: Trombone Mailing List Message-ID: <13B9A2A3-AFFE-4F80-9F89-ED80D59F7A11@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Feb 14, 2006, at 11:34 AM, George Carr wrote: > > Both cans and bottles of Guinness are "intended" to be poured and > drunk from a glass. Not according to Guinness' own website, nor everything I've ever read about it at BeerAdvocate.com... http://www.guinness.com/us_en/beer/draughtbottle/default.aspx BTW, there's an explanation of how the widget works on that page, too! Walter Barrett "Puritanism [is] the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." ?H. L. Mencken Alto, tenor, bass trombones Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba Yamaha Artist/Clinician http://www.walterbarrett.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:08:48 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Widgets To: "Walter Barrett" , "Trombone Mailing List" Message-ID: <001c01c631a2$77baed80$0400a8c0@athlon2800> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Yes. I know Guinness "says" that. . . but everything else I've learned about fine beers indicates that a Stout, even an Irish (the less sweet of the stouts) does best in a thick open-topped glass. The thick glass serves to help the brew keep its temperature (whatever you have established . . .I like 'cold'). The widget simply adds nitrogen into the liquid once the pressure in the can or bottle reaches neutral, or one atmosphere. Thus the thick head on this brew. I generally wait for this head to settle quite a bit. . Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Barrett" To: "Trombone Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Widgets On Feb 14, 2006, at 11:34 AM, George Carr wrote: > > Both cans and bottles of Guinness are "intended" to be poured and > drunk from a glass. Not according to Guinness' own website, nor everything I've ever read about it at BeerAdvocate.com... http://www.guinness.com/us_en/beer/draughtbottle/default.aspx BTW, there's an explanation of how the widget works on that page, too! Walter Barrett "Puritanism [is] the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." ?H. L. Mencken Alto, tenor, bass trombones Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba Yamaha Artist/Clinician http://www.walterbarrett.com _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:07:43 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Widgets To: "Trombone Mailing List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Yeh, but do you sit and play Gaglione while it's settling. . . . (Obscure reference if US advertising differs from Brits) Keith in Bb/F/D Bass Trombone St Albans Symphony Orchestra Page Three Big Band ----- Original Message ----- The widget simply adds nitrogen into the liquid once the pressure in the can or bottle reaches neutral, or one atmosphere. Thus the thick head on this brew. I generally wait for this head to settle quite a bit. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:42:41 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Widgets To: "'Chris Tune'" , "'Walter Barrett'" , "'Trombone Mailing List'" Message-ID: <006801c631a7$33dd7a10$0100a8c0@Adrian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > From: Chris Tune > > The widget simply adds nitrogen into the liquid once the pressure in the > can or bottle reaches neutral, or one atmosphere. So that's why Guinness makes me talk funny after a few pints. A. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:46:28 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Widgets To: "'Keith Marr'" , "'Trombone Mailing List'" Message-ID: <006901c631a7$bb2632a0$0100a8c0@Adrian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > From: Keith Marr > > Yeh, but do you sit and play Gaglione while it's settling. . . . (Obscure > reference if US advertising differs from Brits) The British ad used to claim that "Guinness gives you strength". I took their word for it, drank eight pints, and couldn't lift myself off the floor. A. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:23:49 -0600 From: Peter Soukup Subject: [Trombone-l] Check THIS out To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I don't know how many of you have seen this. Chris Bliss? http://marketplace.espeakers.com/flavplayer_content.php A blend of skill and art that lasts about 5 minutes. -- Pete Soukup St. Andrews Brass Grand Avenue Big Band The Moonlighters The Houndz 95th Street Band Naperville Area Trombone Ensemble Bristol Renaissance Faire (with Izzo) West Suburban Symphony (alternate) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:25:01 -0600 From: Peter Soukup Subject: [Trombone-l] Maybe this link works better To: Trombone-L List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" http://www.sonnyradio.com/chrisbliss.htm -- Pete Soukup psoukup@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:12:30 -0500 From: dslide13@aol.com Subject: [Trombone-l] no pain no gain To: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: <8C7FFCAE1C1A985-424-2C7@MBLK-M18.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Greetings folks, I'm back at Smoke with the quintet. I have put together a collection of musicians who will be sure to under whelm your musical sensibilities and accost your standards of good taste. To be sure, those who attend will wish they had not. But they will be armed with anecdotes to share with countless others until the end of time. The resulting sympathy generated by audiences to said anecdotes will far surpass the dismay caused by the musical dissonance and serve to buoy the witness to greater heights of emotional elation. That is a recipe for success. Now do you see that I'm doing all of this for you? Not to mention, it's free. It'll be like going to your grandma's house and having a candy dish on every table...and no one is telling you to stay out of it. How can you resist? Did I mention that we'll be making s'mores and trading tales around the stage lighting? The David Gibson Quintet Thurs. Feb. 16th @ Smoke (106th & Broadway, Manhattan) Sets at 9pm, 11pm and 12:30am more info: www.smokejazz.com or www.jazzbone.org featuring... David Gibson-trombone/composer Wayne Escoffery-saxes Rick Germanson-piano Essiet Essiet-bass Joe Strasser-drums ---playing original music inspired by Greek mythology as it relates to the extreme neuroses of being a....."trombonist"--- check out "The Path to Delphi" on Nagel Heyer Records featuring the aforementioned neurotic material interpreted by Randy Brecker, Wayne Escoffery, et al...or download some free clips from jazzbone.org! The Quartet will be at Kavehaz from 6:30-8:30 on Sat. Feb. 25th. Keep an eye out for that at www.kavehaz.com or www.jazzbone.org ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:34:51 -0600 From: "Pat McFarland" Subject: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 To: Message-ID: <20060215003249.67FB319017F@nothing.midiowa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is the trombone 1 part in Dvorak 9 usually played on tenor or alto trombone? Pat McFarland ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:44:50 -0000 From: "Keith Marr" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Tenor for Dvorak, even though it says alto and uses alto clef. We did have a discussion about when to play alto and when tenor on the first part 2-3 years ago. Checkout the archives for more details. http://maillists.samford.edu/pipermail/trombone-l/ Keith in Bb/F/D Bass Trombone St Albans Symphony Orchestra Page Three Big Band ----- Original Message ----- Subject: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 > Is the trombone 1 part in Dvorak 9 usually played on tenor or alto > trombone? ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:22:52 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Loewen Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach slide tube needed To: trombone-l@samford.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I'm looking for an inner slide tube for a Bach 50 (.562): does anyone have a spare? It seems they're on backorder from the factory. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us The Dixie Lion Jazz Band http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/dixie.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:41:00 -0600 From: Eric & Candice Swanson Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Edwards on eBay To: trombone-L@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <43F2BEEC.7080603@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That do-it-yourself Edwards we were all talking about yesterday sold for $1250. Unbelievable what some people will pay for a "horn" these days! ES ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:24:14 -0700 From: "Steve Gamble" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 To: "Pat McFarland" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Pat, I've never played it or seen it played on alto. But, since there are different traditions all over the place, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it is common to use alto somewhere in the world. I can imagine an interpretation where alto would be just right. Steve Gamble, Librarian Tucson Symphony Orchestra 2175 N. 6th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85705 (520) 792-9155 x118 (520) 792-9314 fax (520) 991-7056 cel sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org -----Original Message----- From: trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces@samford.edu] On Behalf Of Pat McFarland Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:35 PM To: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Subject: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 Is the trombone 1 part in Dvorak 9 usually played on tenor or alto trombone? Pat McFarland _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 -0500 From: Raymond Horton Subject: [Trombone-l] [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] To: Trombone-L Message-ID: <43F33F8C.6030305@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From Orchestra-List ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:12:35 -0800 From: "Chris Tune" Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] To: "Raymond Horton" , "Trombone-L" Message-ID: <004b01c63242$40f44b20$0400a8c0@athlon2800> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don't think attachments come through. I believe the server strips them off. . .maybe I'm hallucinating. . . Anyway your message is flagged in Outlook Express as having an attachment, but there is nothing. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Horton" To: "Trombone-L" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: [Trombone-l] [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] > From Orchestra-List > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu > http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:12:27 -0500 From: Raymond Horton Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 To: Trombone-l@server5.samford.edu Message-ID: <43F344DB.3080203@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It's better played on tenor - but it, like all Dvorak trombone parts, was originally written for valve trombone, (two Bb tenors and a valve bass "probably in F") according to Ken Shifrin's research. See his excellent treatise: http://www.trombone-society.org.uk/ and click on "features" Dvorak is covered in Chapter 5. RBH Keith Marr wrote: >Tenor for Dvorak, even though it says alto and uses alto clef. > >We did have a discussion about when to play alto and when tenor on the first >part 2-3 years ago. Checkout the archives for more details. > >http://maillists.samford.edu/pipermail/trombone-l/ > >Keith in Bb/F/D >Bass Trombone >St Albans Symphony Orchestra >Page Three Big Band > >----- Original Message ----- >Subject: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 > > > > >>Is the trombone 1 part in Dvorak 9 usually played on tenor or alto >>trombone? >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Trombone-l mailing list >Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu >http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l > > > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:48:23 -0500 From: Raymond Horton Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] [Fwd: [Olist] Premiere Announcement] To: Chris Tune , Trombone-L Message-ID: <43F34D47.60403@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Chris Tune wrote: > I don't think attachments come through. I believe the server strips > them off. . .maybe I'm hallucinating. . . Right. I thought it would come through in the body of the message. Let's try it the old-fashioned way: Dear O-List, For those of you in the Pittsburgh area, I wanted to invite you to the premiere of my "Trombone Concerto", performed by Pete Sullivan, principal trombonist, with the Pittsburgh Symphony and Sir Andrew Davis, conducting. Also on the program, a new Oboe Concerto by Lucas Richman, along with works of Bernstein and Dvorak. The concerts are at Heinz Hall Thursday, Feb. 16, 1:30 pm Friday, Feb. 17, 8 pm Saturday, Feb. 18, 8 pm I'll be there so come up and introduce yourselves! warmest regards, Jennifer Higdon ____________ Orchestralist www.orchestralist.net ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:58:45 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dvorak 9 To: Trombone Mailing List Message-ID: <05532AAF-8BF9-46CA-8F47-7BBB79AB8439@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: > It's better played on tenor - but it, like all Dvorak trombone parts, > was originally written for valve trombone, (two Bb tenors and a valve > bass "probably in F") according to Ken Shifrin's research. See his > excellent treatise: > > > http://www.trombone-society.org.uk/ > > > and click on "features" Dvorak is covered in Chapter 5. > > > RBH > Interesting stuff, thanks, Ray! Also, I'd hate to play the New World on alto anyway, too many low E's in 7th position. On my Yamaha, that only leaves about an inch before it falls off. Not conducive to my peace of mind... Walter Barrett "...it's important to me that I have total musical creativity and whimsy in my playing." -Dave Taylor Alto, tenor, bass trombones Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba Yamaha Artist/Clinician http://www.walterbarrett.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:09:18 -0600 From: Joshua Hauser Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone Recital at Tennessee Tech University, Friday, February 24 To: Cc: Trombone Friendly Folks Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tennessee Tech Trombone Studio Department of Music and Art ? Box 5045 ? Tennessee Technological University Cookeville, TN 38505 ? (931) 372-6086 ? e-mail: jhauser@tntech.edu FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Date: February 15, 2006 Contact: Joshua Hauser, Professor of Trombone (931) 372-6086, e-mail: jhauser@tntech.edu Joshua Hauser and Friends in Concert Cookeville, TN ? Joshua Hauser will present a free chamber music recital at 7:30 PM on Friday, February 24, 2006 in Tennessee Tech University?s Wattenbarger Auditorium. The program will feature Dr. Hauser on trombone as well as guests Paul Thurmond, piano and harpsichord, Diane Pulte, mezzo-soprano, Dan Allcott, cello, Charles Decker, trumpet, and Trombones at Tech, the TTU Trombone Choir, guest conducted by Joseph Hermann. The evening?s concert will include works ranging from Alme Ingrate for trombone, mezzo-soprano and continuo by Emperor Joseph I, composer in 1705, to the Sonata for Trombone and Piano by John Stevens, composed in 2002. These works will be joined together by Fandango for trumpet, trombone and piano by Joseph Turrin, Cogent Caprice for solo trombone and trombone choir by LA based trombonist Tommy Pederson, and Chocolate Kisses for mezzo-soprano, trombone and piano by Eric Street. Tennessee Tech Professor of Trombone Joshua Hauser says of the concert, ?I always look forward to the opportunity to work with my colleagues on other instruments and have been looking for a chance to program all of these works. Instead of just including one or two chamber works, I decided that varying the instrumentation for nearly every piece would make for a fun performance that provides something for everyone. I had the opportunity to perform the Turrin last summer when I was teaching at the Tennessee Governor?s School for the Arts and have been dying to play it with Charlie. Tommy Pederson has written dozens of pieces for trombones in various combinations and Cogent Caprice was written for Hoyt?s Garage, a combination of the best studio trombone players in LA back in the 1970s. The program will end with the Street. The lyrics are very appropriate in light of the recent passing of Valentine?s Day and I won?t spoil the surprise by telling you any more about it here. Hilarity will ensue, I guarantee. I hope you will be able to join us and look forward to seeing you here.? Color photo available online at http://iweb.tntech.edu/jhauser/hauserplaying.jpg *************************************** Joshua Hauser, Assistant Professor of Trombone Box 5045 Department of Music and Art Tennessee Technological University Cookeville, TN 38505 931/372-6086 jhauser@tntech.edu http://iweb.tntech.edu/jhauser http://www.tntech.edu/brass/trombone ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l@maillists.samford.edu http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l End of Trombone-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 15 ******************************************