Subject: TROMBONE-L digest 301 Date: Monday, February 7, 2005 12:01 AM From: Multiple recipients of list To: Multiple recipients of list TROMBONE-L Digest 301 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Is there anyone from the list attending the TMEA Convention next week? by "Dean McCarty" 2) Re: Instrument Choices by Howard Weiner 3) Trombonists as Arrangers. by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 4) Re: Trombonists as Arrangers. by Steve88h@aol.com 5) Programme Notes by "nicholas HUDSON" 6) Re: Pending Trombone Legislation by "prbrass@juno.com" 7) Re: Pending Trombone Legislation by Angie Brunk 8) Re: Pending Trombone Legislation by Gussieboy@aol.com From: Dean McCarty Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:23:56 -0600 To: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3890] Is there anyone from the list attending the TMEA Convention next week? I placed this on the OTJ a couple of days ago... Maybe we can all get together an blow through some trombone choir music. Reply if you're interested and, if there's enough people, I'll bring some music... everyone else just bring a stand and your horn. Dean McCarty <>< freelance trombonist, Houston area Director of Bands, Kelly High School - Beaumont, Tx. Director of Instrumental Ministries, FBC - Vidor, Tx. bassbone@gt.rr.com (409) 681-9976 From: Howard Weiner Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 11:51:45 +0100 To: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3891] Re: Instrument Choices At 16:43 05.02.05 -0500, Jay Heltzer asked: >My question is : who is leading these young players to these mammoth horns? And at 14:25 05.02.05 -0800, Chris Tune opined: >It seems to be some sort of "syndrome". It is a syndrome, it's the "Bigger-is-better syndrome," also known as the "Pseudo-Chicago syndrome." "Pseudo" because it is based on a misconception of the Chicago SO brass sound and how it is/was achieved. I first became aware of this syndorome already in the early 1970s, when I was an undergrad at Northwestern. The CSO had just made its first Mahler recordings with Solti (1969) and undertaken its first-ever European tour (1970), and had really called attention to itself and, especially, its brass section. Then, I think it was my sophomore year (1971), a couple grad students turned up playing huge Bach double-valve bass trombones with huge mouthpieces -- and both considered themselves tenor trombonists! This equipment was what they believed was necessary to achieve the "Chicago sound." Of course, they were completely on the wrong track, yet nobody, not even Frank Crisafulli, was able to convince them otherwise. One of these guys was in fact a fabulous player and played first chair in both wind ensemble and orchestra that year. But the sound of those trombone sections was simply not good with such large equipment on the top part. Since then, this syndrome has unfortunately continued to spread unabated. Howard -- Howard Weiner weiner@privat.toplink.de http://www.odilia.ch/howard-weiner If vegetarians eat only vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? From: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:55:55 EST To: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3892] Trombonists as Arrangers. This morning I was talking with a music teacher who also has a performance degree in Bass Clarinet, about the comment made last week about trombonists are often found to be many of the arrangers in the business. We agreed that probably they have become so in order to have trombone music written into arrangements, that properly facilitate the playing of the trombone. i.e. the tenor has notes missing from Low F to pedal Bb. The music most often written for the bass clarinet, says the teacher is in Bb treble, but also in Bass Cleff Bb. And some composers have it in A, but no one has knowledge of were to obtain and A Bass Clarinet. Necessity again becomes the mother of invention. beldon wade ............................................................ : An attachment to this post has been stripped by: : : plaintext.pl : : Original idea by Phillip Porch (ppp@theporch.com) : : Written by Stephen Modena, AB4EL (shimshon@theporch.com) : : Modifications by Mearl Danner, (jmdanner@samford.edu) : : All rights reserved. : ............................................................ From: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:01:50 EST To: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3893] Re: Trombonists as Arrangers. In a message dated 2/6/05 1:56:33 PM, BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com writes: << about the comment made last week about trombonists are often found to be many of the arrangers in the business. >> Certainly Don Sebesky rates among the best. Don has reorchestrated the score to the Broadway revival of "Sweet Charity" starring Christina Applegate which will open in NYC in April. This past week I have had the pleasure of meeting Don and hearing these orchestrations in Minneapolis where the production is originating and will play from Feb 8-12. Certainly these scores will make Don a strong candidate for a Tony! Steve Lund Minneapolis Orchestra Contractor From: nicholas HUDSON Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:18:10 -0000 To: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3894] Programme Notes Hi Guys, Need to get hold of some programme notes for the following pieces: Hindemith Sonata for Trombone and Piano Jacques Casterede Sonatine for Trombone and Piano Does anyone have any idea where I can start the search? Thanks for your help Nick Hudson Trombone Email - nick@hudson66.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................ : An attachment to this post has been stripped by: : : plaintext.pl : : Original idea by Phillip Porch (ppp@theporch.com) : : Written by Stephen Modena, AB4EL (shimshon@theporch.com) : : Modifications by Mearl Danner, (jmdanner@samford.edu) : : All rights reserved. : ............................................................ From: "prbrass@juno.com" Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 00:17:27 GMT To: Cc: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3895] Re: Pending Trombone Legislation Emil, Don't be surprised if liberals take issue against the trombone for real. After all, they feel, but do not think. Luis From: Angie Brunk Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:45:27 -0600 To: Cc: , Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3896] Re: Pending Trombone Legislation If the conservatives I know are any indication, conservatives are capable of neither thinking nor feeling. Seriously, it would be a good idea to remember that the list population includes people of all political, religious/philosophical, and any other stripe I have failed to mention. Angie On Sunday, February 6, 2005, at 06:17 PM, prbrass@juno.com wrote: > > > Emil, > > Don't be surprised if liberals take issue against the trombone for > real. After all, they feel, but do not think. > > Luis > From: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:45:12 EST To: , Cc: Subject: [TROMBONE-L:3897] Re: Pending Trombone Legislation In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:19:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, prbrass@juno.com writes: Emil, Don't be surprised if liberals take issue against the trombone for real. After all, they feel, but do not think. Luis You are kidding, correct? If not, you have to be frickin' brainless. ............................................................ : An attachment to this post has been stripped by: : : plaintext.pl : : Original idea by Phillip Porch (ppp@theporch.com) : : Written by Stephen Modena, AB4EL (shimshon@theporch.com) : : Modifications by Mearl Danner, (jmdanner@samford.edu) : : All rights reserved. : ............................................................