Subject: TROMBONE-L Digest - 21 Feb 2004 to 22 Feb 2004 (#2004-54) Date: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:00 AM From: Automatic digest processor Reply-To: "Trombones and related issues forum." To: Recipients of TROMBONE-L digests There are 7 messages totalling 196 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Definition 2. Just For Laughs 3. horn prices was RE: [TBN-L] Early Bach 42B's? (Sam) 4. maintenaince before selling ? 5. valve throw question 6. Steve Carr's Question on maintenaince before selling ? 7. Mythbusters ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:23:24 -0000 From: Adrian Drover Subject: Re: Definition From: > No insult here. For me, jazz is like writing a story, while other kinds of > music are more like completing a crossword. I hope we all have some kind of > music that reaches our heart, not just our intellect. Classical music does have its uses Mike. I find it calms my road rage when I have it on the car radio. But for tooth extractions, I think I prefer Paul Desmond or Stan Getz. Oops sorry, no trombone content here. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:13:54 +0100 From: Howard Weiner Subject: Re: Just For Laughs At 11:59 21.02.04 -0800, you wrote: >http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.reka-web.com/german/html/body_super-slide.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dreka%2Bsuper%2Bslide%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8 > OK guys, let's not be unfair. You'll get this sort of gobbledygook anytime you use Google to translate something. The official English translations on the Reka site are actually quite good: http://www.reka-web.com/english/ http://www.reka-web.com/english/html/body_trombone.html Howard -- Howard Weiner weiner@privat.toplink.de http://www.odilia.ch/howard-weiner If vegetarians eat only vegetables, what do humanitarians eat? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:41:54 -0600 From: Jeff Albert Subject: horn prices was RE: [TBN-L] Early Bach 42B's? (Sam) There is one brand is Chris' list that isn't an expensive custom line, and is actually priced at or below its Conn-Selmer competition, and that is Getzen. Jeff Albert www.jeffalbert.com -----Original Message----- From: Trombones and related issues forum. [mailto:TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Bauer Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 11:21 PM To: TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Early Bach 42B's? (Sam) Assuming they had (and were willing) to cough up the extra cash for a custom line instrument, then yes. Many will not. Chris Tune wrote: >That would only be true if it were impossible for a person, disgusted with >Bach to go only to Benge, King and Conn. But, as we know, they could easily >go to Shires, Lawler, Getzen, Edwards and numerous other lines that are not >UMI products. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:54:20 -0500 From: Steve Carr Subject: maintenaince before selling ? When buying a used horn from a private seller, would you rather that the seller had any repair or cleaning work done to it before hand, with the seller figuring that he/she is recouping some or all of the repair costs. Or would you rather see it "as is"? (and described that way). I'm not talking about serious problems, just a horn that has been unplayed since 1997, plays fine now, but would obviously benefit from cleaning and thayer valve adjustment. I have a Bach 50b (circa 1968) with inline thayer valves that I am considering selling. I'm trying to determine which is the best way to go. thanks in advance Steve Carr ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:53:07 -0800 From: "James W. Yardley" Subject: valve throw question Does anyone know if there is a way to shorten the throw of a thayer valve? I've been to many music conventions this year (IAJE, Midwest, etc.) and tried out some bass trombones at each and noticed to almost every valve I tried had a shorter throw than my Thayer does. I'm talking mostly about my F valve, and hopefully there are some Thayer owners out there that know what I'm talking about. Any ideas? Take care, James ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:05:55 -0600 From: Harold Smith Subject: Steve Carr's Question on maintenaince before selling ? I have purchased a couple of horns either through a private seller or = from e-bay. On each occassion the horn was represented as being in = good playing condition. None the less I have taken every instrument to = my favorite repair person to check out, adjust as needed, and clean as = needed. =20 I have stayed away from horns that the seller has "just had in the shop" = for this and that, because the prices do seem to run a little more. = Also, I really would rather get a used horn that is represented as = needing some TLC. I like to tinker, and revive things that have been = unused for awhile. When I buy a horn under these conditions, I fix the = things that feel need attention and leave the stuff alone that doesn't. = I usually ask about major dents, and inner slide wear. In the case = of Thayers that have been sitting up for a while, I would really want to = know that they're still in good condition. Not sure how you would = answer that question. A parent buying a horn for there high schooler would probably = appreciate some one knowledgiable giving the horn a once over prior to = their purchasing it. I guess it just depends on who the buyer is. =20 Good Luck. Harold Smith Austin Texas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:45:47 -0600 From: Angie Brunk Subject: Mythbusters For those in the U. S., or those overseas who get American television, the Discovery channel show Mythbusters just covered the exploding trombone myth. It was rather entertaining and they "proved" that the myth is simply not possible. Discovery repeats their shows (often), so you should be able to catch this one in re-runs. I would like to think that no trombone player would be dumb enough to place explosives in his/her horn. -- Angie Brunk-angie@cybersolvers.com Graduate Student Indiana University School of Journalism MLS Indiana University School of Library and Information Science 1999 Dominant: In a choral relationship, usually the soprano. ------------------------------ End of TROMBONE-L Digest - 21 Feb 2004 to 22 Feb 2004 (#2004-54) ****************************************************************