Subject: TROMBONE-L Digest - 27 Nov 2003 to 28 Nov 2003 (#2003-329) Date: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:00 AM From: Automatic digest processor Reply-To: "Trombones and related issues forum." To: Recipients of TROMBONE-L digests There are 7 messages totalling 241 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Remembering Frank R. (4) 2. Tuning crooks - more data 3. New Alessi CD 4. Frank Rosolino lessons ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:54:08 -0800 From: alex iles Subject: Remembering Frank R. Thought I'd pass along this heartfelt email from L.A. trombonist Jim Sawyer... Happy Thanksgiving Weekend everyone...Alex =============================================== > I happened to be looking at the liner notes on what has become one of my treasured Frank Rosolino > CDs entitled "Thinking About You" recorded in April of 1976 at Bourbon Street in Toronto, Canada. > Frank is accompanied on this series on evenings of magnificent playing by a very fine guitar trio let be > Ed Bickert. As I read the brief bio about Frank's life I recalled as probably many of you can, too, the > first time I heard (and saw) Frank play. It was in the early '60's on a short lived weekly TV show > hosted by pianist and singer Bobby Troupe called Bobby Troop's Record Room. I was a 15 or 16 year > old high school kid who was pretty stoked about playing the trombone and was just beginning his foray > into the mystical world of jazz music. I'd never heard of Frank Rosolino until that night. The indelible > impression Frank's music made on me that night turned my perceptions about what could be played on > the trombone upside down. I was dumbstruck! At the risk of sounding a tad sentimental, I can say > that now, after more than 40 years have passed, that evening of musical revelation to the tune of > "Route 66" has remained fresh in thought to this day! Anyway, at the end of the liner notes the writer, > John Norris, listed Frank's dates of birth and passing and I noted with amazement that it was exactly > 25 years ago to the day that he left us, November 26, 1978. It occurred to me that perhaps some of > my trombone playing friends, almost all of whom I am sure are devoted admirers of this giant among > jazz trombonists might be interested to know of this poignant anniversary. I suppose, too, that in > keeping the spirit of the Thanksgiving season, it might even be appropriate to convey my profound > gratitude for the countless hours of sheer musical delight and awesome inspiration this talented, very > funny and soulful man has brought to me both on recordings and the few live performances on which I > had the privilege of hearing him. I'm sure I can speak for most of us trombonists as well as many, > many other lovers of great jazz musicians when I say Thank you, Frank! > > Jim Sawyer > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:04:26 -0600 From: Fred Hudson Subject: Re: Tuning crooks - more data Frank, Those measurements sound about right. I have a King of about the same vintage with two tuning slides.To get a Bb in tune with A 440 calibration I have to use the small crook almost all the way "out". I can't get it at all with the large crook. I also have a King "Medium Bore - Low Pitch" with tuning in the hand slide. It has a beautiful tone but plays slightly flat with the tuner fully "closed". It is my understanding that "Low Pitch Orchestras" tuned to A 436 or thereabouts. Fred H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Doting" To: Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: [TBN-L] Tuning crooks - more data > "These are probably not Bb and A slides, but Bb high pitch and Bb low pitch > slides. At that time, there were two commonly used systems of pitch-low > pitch, which is basically A 440, and high pitch which is A 462 (?-I'm not > really certain-anyone know for sure?). It was common practice to include two > tuning slides for each system on some models. The problem was much more > serious for woodwind instruments-they had to have two separate instruments! > > Matt Stoecker" > > > Perhaps so. I measured the range of each crook using my trusty Korg CA-30 > > Small crook - - 437 to 456 Hz > Large crook - - 420 to 440 Hz > > Regards, Grass Valley Frank > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:54:50 -0800 From: Galen McQuarrie Subject: Re: Remembering Frank R. That was a wonderful tribute, one that Frank Rosolino richly deserves. I appreciate your sharing that with us, Alex. Best, Galen McQuarrie -----Original Message----- From: alex iles [mailto:alexiles@EARTHLINK.NET] Sent: Fri 11/28/2003 10:54 AM To: TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU Cc: Subject: [TBN-L] Remembering Frank R. Thought I'd pass along this heartfelt email from L.A. trombonist Jim Sawyer... Happy Thanksgiving Weekend everyone...Alex =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:18:53 -0800 From: Chris Tune Subject: Re: Remembering Frank R. Thanks Alex and especially Jim Sawyer. Jim is one of our finest trombonists here in Los Angeles, CA. Jim is a regular call for the opera orchestras and chorale orchestras in town. Jim has been a regular at Hoyt's Garage and can be heard in the ensemble on this new Tommy Pederson music we've been discussing earlier on our list. True about Frank. I've talked to so many people about Frank and his influence has been felt throughout the industry. I brought my Rosolino albums along on the recent Canadian tour with the Rat Pack and wouldn't you know. . .Bob Summers, jazz trumpeter, is a big fan. He has about everything Frank you can get. We all dug the jazz as we motored endlessly thru Canada. Yes I'm thankful that we had Frank around and that there are recordings available (hopefully more will surface). Chris Tune Los Angeles, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Galen McQuarrie" To: Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Remembering Frank R. > That was a wonderful tribute, one that Frank Rosolino richly deserves. I appreciate your sharing that with us, Alex. > > Best, > Galen McQuarrie > > -----Original Message----- > From: alex iles [mailto:alexiles@EARTHLINK.NET] > Sent: Fri 11/28/2003 10:54 AM > To: TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU > Cc: > Subject: [TBN-L] Remembering Frank R. > > > > Thought I'd pass along this heartfelt email from L.A. trombonist Jim > Sawyer... > > Happy Thanksgiving Weekend everyone...Alex > =============================================== > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:36:31 +0000 From: Phil Burton Subject: Re: Remembering Frank R. In my early college days, in Fullerton, CA. I took a handful of lessons from Frank at his home in Garden Grove. Every chance I had to to visit him at any of the Jass clubs in LA or Hollywood that allowed minors, namely Shelley's Manne Hole, or the Lighthouse in Hermosa Beach, would find me and some friends, hangin' digging this great musician and humorist. At one such event, (the location has been lost with some of those lost brain cells", my buddies and I were glued at a table near the stand, watching and digging his show with his quintet, and at the end of the set, one of the customers in the audience came up and said... "Great show, you are an excelllent singer, and comedian, and you are not bad on that trombone either" All of us were floored. We could not believe that someone did not know that Frank was primarily a Trombonist... I feel so fortunate that I was lucky enough to hear him live, several times. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:17:48 +0200 From: H du Plooy Subject: New Alessi CD Hi all, Does anyone know (even vaguely) when the next Joseph Alessi CD "Illuminations" is due for release? I signed up for the announcement, but I really expected it soon and it's been about three months now. Suspense is killing me.... Thanks Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:54:05 EST From: SlideH@AOL.COM Subject: Frank Rosolino lessons In my early college days, in Fullerton, CA. I took a handful of lessons from Frank at his home in Garden Grove. What were the lessons like? What things did he talk about and teach you? Thanks! John ------------------------------ End of TROMBONE-L Digest - 27 Nov 2003 to 28 Nov 2003 (#2003-329) *****************************************************************