Subject: TROMBONE-L Digest - 1 Mar 2003 to 2 Mar 2003 (#2003-61) Date: Monday, March 3, 2003 12:00 AM From: Automatic digest processor Reply-To: "Trombones and related issues forum." To: Recipients of TROMBONE-L digests There are 14 messages totalling 469 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Schilke trombones??? (2) 2. mpc advice -- euph to t-bone 3. Schilke Trombones (3) 4. webpage update (2) 5. Stork email? (3) 6. Maryland Early Brass Festival (2) 7. Instrument Repair Recommendation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:45 -0700 From: James Scott Subject: Re: Schilke trombones??? John - I don't think Schilke has ever mass-produced any instruments other than trumpets, but I know of a horn player and a tuba player that each have an instrument made by Schilke. It may be the same with trombones - they may have made a few prototypes that were never sold on a widespread basis. Also, I believe they had a lot to do with the early Yamaha brass instruments, so maybe their attempts at trombones were similar to the first versions that Yamaha put out. Jim Scott John Jenkins wrote: >Hi all. I was talking to a fellow trombonist last night after a concert and >he mentioned something about a Schilke trombone. I've heard them mentioned >before, but thought nothing of it. But now I want to know whether this is >fact or fiction. Is there such a thing as a Schilke trombone? I know they >make some pretty good and expensive trumpets, but are the trombones for >real? The trombonist said that they didn't do well because they were >"crappy". If anyone has any relevant information, please educate me on this >matter. Thank you. > >John > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:40:11 -0000 From: Adrian Drover Subject: Re: mpc advice -- euph to t-bone From: "Roy & Jean Potratz" > I am principally euphonium (converted > bassoon), and have been studying trombone the last 11 months. > However, on my trombone mpc, I'm getting erratic airflow > when I engage F (above pedal Bb) and try to work myself downward. Ah, that's because you're not using a double reed. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:58:17 -0500 From: Art Triggs Subject: Re: Schilke trombones??? The "Schilke" Trombones/Tubas were re- worked Yamaha designs as Reynold Schilke had done a lot of the design work for them on these instruments. The parts were Yamaha parts, assembled by Schilke's shop. The Bass trombones were excellent, however the design that Yamaha went with was not one I liked, they still sell it as the YBL612. Art Triggs ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scott" To: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Schilke trombones??? > John - > > I don't think Schilke has ever mass-produced any instruments other than > trumpets, but I know of a horn player and a tuba player that each have > an instrument made by Schilke. It may be the same with trombones - they > may have made a few prototypes that were never sold on a widespread > basis. Also, I believe they had a lot to do with the early Yamaha brass > instruments, so maybe their attempts at trombones were similar to the > first versions that Yamaha put out. > > Jim Scott > > John Jenkins wrote: > > >Hi all. I was talking to a fellow trombonist last night after a concert and > >he mentioned something about a Schilke trombone. I've heard them mentioned > >before, but thought nothing of it. But now I want to know whether this is > >fact or fiction. Is there such a thing as a Schilke trombone? I know they > >make some pretty good and expensive trumpets, but are the trombones for > >real? The trombonist said that they didn't do well because they were > >"crappy". If anyone has any relevant information, please educate me on this > >matter. Thank you. > > > >John > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:39:06 EST From: MikeSuter@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Schilke Trombones John << If anyone has any relevant information, please educate me on this matter. >> Art << . . . trying prototypes that I saw at his shop in 1976 . . . had a valve section reminiscent of the Reynolds double valve bass of the late 60's >> I don't know if this is relevant, but I, too, got to try the two "Schilke" bass trombones in '76. I was with my section mate Greg Sorcsek, and the old man showed them to us with great pride and enthusiasm. For myself, the first horn didn't suit my playing very well. But the second was really nice. I turned to Greg and said "Wow! This is like a large bore Reynolds with a "D" slide." With that, Mr. Schilke gave me a look like I'd stabbed him, put the horns back in their cases, and stomped off. As he left I tried to explain to his receding back that I truly liked the horn, but he never stopped stomping. Phil Warsip - the last guy at Schilke who really knew how to make mouthpieces - just laughed and told us that the elder Schilke was very touchy about the resemblance, and that he'd forget all about it in no time. In fact, Greg went back the next day to have Phil alter his 60, and Schilke took him through both horns all over again. Ahh, me and my mouth. All The Best, Mike Suter Slidewerke PrimeSlide Design The National Slide Quartet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:36:34 +0000 From: posaune rex Subject: webpage update Hello, I've updated my webpage to include information about the upcoming Cleveland audition, as well as Lyric finalists and a few other things. Thanks for visiting! stacy werblin http://remember.to/practice _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:31:23 -0700 From: David Oliver Subject: Re: webpage update I just checked Stacy's website, and would highly recommend it to everyone on the list. The "trombone news" section is great with pending auditions, names, salaries, etc. It would also be a great reference for trombone students still in high school when they are mulling over the direction they want to go *after* high school. I'm going to look around at more of it now! David Oliver Broomfield, Colorado USA Trombone, Denver Concert Band http://www.denverconcertband.org posaune rex wrote: > Hello, > > I've updated my webpage to include information about the upcoming Cleveland > audition, as well as Lyric finalists and a few other things. Thanks for > visiting! > > stacy werblin > http://remember.to/practice > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:55:41 -0600 From: Jay Heltzer Subject: Re: Schilke Trombones Dansatt@AOL.COM wrote: > Frank Crisafulli played a gold plated Schilke/Yamaha for quite awhile in the > Chicago Symphony. You can see it in the photo that was on the cover of the > ITA journal some time ago...one where he is outside at Northwestern and > facing sideways. > > Dan Which is now being played by one of his former students in the Northbrook Symphony, Susan Laing. Its a great sounding instrument (kudos to the operator, as well!) Jay Heltzer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:51:30 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Stork email? Hi, all! Does anyone have a working email address for John and/or Phyllis Stork? I sent an email to this address... stork@plainfield.bypass.com and it got returned. Thanks! Walter Barrett "Can placebos cause side effects? If so, are the side effects real?" -George Carlin Yamaha Artist/Clinician Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones Euphonium Bass Trumpet Tuba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:58:14 -0600 From: Jeff Oien Subject: Re: Stork email? Their new website should give you what you need: http://www.storkcustom.com/html/contact.html Jeff > Hi, all! > > Does anyone have a working email address for John and/or Phyllis Stork? I > sent an email to this address... > > stork@plainfield.bypass.com > > and it got returned. > > Thanks! > > Walter Barrett > > "Can placebos cause side effects? If so, are the side effects real?" > -George Carlin > > > Yamaha Artist/Clinician > Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones > Euphonium > Bass Trumpet > Tuba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:03:49 -0500 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: Stork email? Thus spake, not Zarathustra, but Walter Barrett > Hi, all! > > Does anyone have a working email address for John and/or Phyllis Stork? I > sent an email to this address... > > stork@plainfield.bypass.com > > and it got returned. > > Thanks! > > Walter Barrett Please ignore the last email, as I've found the Storks' new website. It seems the old one is still up, and that was the only link I had. Thanks anyway! Walter Barrett "These days many politicians are demanding change. Just like homeless people." -George Carlin Yamaha Artist/Clinician Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones Euphonium Bass Trumpet Tuba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:28:04 -0500 From: "Wessner, John" Subject: Maryland Early Brass Festival I've been asked to forward this to the list by the organizer. jw Maryland Early Brass Festival March 29th, 2003 Haebler Chapel, Goucher College, Towson, Md. Players of early brass instruments will meet for a cornett & sackbut = workshop, lecture recitals, and a free concert. Ensemble-in-Residence = is the Washington Cornett & Sackbut Ensemble. More info at www.goucher.edu/earlybrass 410 337 6328 dbaum@goucher.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:47:57 -0500 From: Art Triggs Subject: Re: Schilke Trombones bahahahahahahaha - glad I'm not the only one, I had gone out there to get a job in his shop......I liked him, had met him a few years before then through a mutual acquaintance, but his manner with people could be kind of short then, I mentioned the similarities, but what I got was a - so what...??? and a job offer, ;-) He was a very strong minded person, but the day I spent in his shop was an education, and then some. Art Triggs ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Schilke Trombones > John << If anyone has any relevant information, please educate me on this > matter. >> > > > Art << . . . trying prototypes that I saw at his shop in 1976 . . . had a > valve section reminiscent of the Reynolds double valve bass of the late 60's > >> > > I don't know if this is relevant, but I, too, got to try the two "Schilke" > bass trombones in '76. I was with my section mate Greg Sorcsek, and the old > man showed them to us with great pride and enthusiasm. For myself, the first > horn didn't suit my playing very well. But the second was really nice. I > turned to Greg and said "Wow! This is like a large bore Reynolds with a "D" > slide." With that, Mr. Schilke gave me a look like I'd stabbed him, put the > horns back in their cases, and stomped off. > > As he left I tried to explain to his receding back that I truly liked the > horn, but he never stopped stomping. Phil Warsip - the last guy at Schilke > who really knew how to make mouthpieces - just laughed and told us that the > elder Schilke was very touchy about the resemblance, and that he'd forget all > about it in no time. In fact, Greg went back the next day to have Phil alter > his 60, and Schilke took him through both horns all over again. > > Ahh, me and my mouth. > > All The Best, Mike Suter > Slidewerke > PrimeSlide Design > The National Slide Quartet > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:03:44 -0600 From: "Monte B. Price" Subject: Instrument Repair Recommendation Just a note to recommend my friend Kyle Steensma at Sam Bass Music in Round Rock, TX. I purchased a 1946 Conn 4H off ebay that was in sad shape. The horn had been spray-painted gold to hide aging lacquer, the slide had some wear on the stockings that indicated some sort of longterm problem, and the case smelled like a mouse had died in it. Well, Kyle fixed all the problems but the case, and even that was improved. He stripped the paint and lacquer off the horn, removed a outer slide dent that had been hidden by the spray paint, and did it for a reasonable price. The horn is gorgeous now, and the slide is as smooth as a baby's bottom. If you are in the Central Texas area, you can't do better for repairs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:30:26 -0600 From: Jeff Oien Subject: Re: Maryland Early Brass Festival > Players of early brass instruments will meet for a cornett & sackbut > workshop, lecture recitals, and a free concert. Shoot, I won't be able to make it. I'll have to wait for the late brass festival. Jeff Oien ------------------------------ End of TROMBONE-L Digest - 1 Mar 2003 to 2 Mar 2003 (#2003-61) **************************************************************