Subject: TROMBONE-L Digest - 12 Feb 2003 to 13 Feb 2003 (#2003-44) Date: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:00 AM From: Automatic digest processor Reply-To: "Trombones and related issues forum." To: Recipients of TROMBONE-L digests There are 15 messages totalling 679 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Trombones and Other Stuff for Sale 2. horn heaven 3. grammys (4) 4. Good Read (3) 5. Sammy Nestico Article at IAJE.org 6. Fillmore Trombone Rags Question -Fillmore book (2) 7. Tax Tips - IAJE link 8. slide/grammys 9. Pederson Intermediate BTRB Etudes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:55:53 -0600 From: RWilson Subject: Trombones and Other Stuff for Sale I have collected too much stuff and need to sell some it. Pictures are = available on request. If interested, email me at: ronbo3@flash.net =20 Bach 36B trombone, .525 bore, standard wrap, recently overhauled and = relacquered. Like new condition, with a new Bach case, shipping inside = USA included, very nice horn, $1100 Edwards .525 bore trombone, bell 144CF, standard rotor valve (not = Thayer), .525 slide with nickel crook, used very little, like new = condition, $1750. Edwards T-DBN slide, .547/.562 dual bore, with nickel crook, like new = condition, $600. Edwards TBC-N slide, .547 bore, nickel crook, used less than 1 year, = excellent condition, $600 Edwards bell # 265, red brass, medium-heavy gauge, some scratches, = couple of very minor dings, good condition, $250. Reunion Blues Alto Trombone gig bag, black cordura, used a few times, = like new, $75 Please email me with any questions, Ron Wilson Principal Trombone, Ft.Worth Symphony ronbo3@flash.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:03:18 -0600 From: "D.J. Kennedy" Subject: horn heaven congrats on the fitted 50 and double bell eupho !!!!!!!! and the bands to play in !!!! 1946 silver boosey 4v comp in leather case from oz in leather case retiredfrom brass band all shined up --with new life --thanks for getting it going again Louis DeVizia wrote: > Hey there DJ - good to hear from you! > > Actually, I'm in horn heaven these days... I finally got off my butt and > had some work done on the 50K triggers and now I like it a lot - Freddy > pulled the second lever off, repositioned and resoldered, bent the arm a > little... Fits my hand like a glove now. AND... I got the old Booser > back - the replated valves are like new, and I had a few other thigns > done too. I switched to a gold Denis Wick / Steven Mead SM4M (slightly > larger than the Schilke 51D), and all is great! AND - the icing on the > cake - my civic band director sold me a 1924 King double-bell euphonium > for $750! I had never played one before. What a blast! You wouldn't > believe how well this thing is made and how great it sounds. So > basically I'm broke, happy and everything is peaceful on the horn front > for me. Playing in three bands and have guys calling me for other > stuff... All that plus the church and the family... Life is pretty > good! Just praying that the dirty bombs don't start blowing up all over > the place... Yikes. > > See you, > Lou > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:55:32 -0600 "D.J. Kennedy" > writes: > > thanks --kelly in canada is wanting a cronkite > > the bach bass maybe bobba louis ?????? > > --------- > > thinking much about life old cat was sick and died then dog got > > stroke and died too > > planted trees over them --geese heading north > > flocks of robins in yard > > i rented out a house bought recently --new life babies in > > there > > > > and i am painting again > > feeling very mortal and aware of time passing > > doing a few horn deals getting a digi cam finally > > > > Irvin Karan wrote: > > > > > Hey DJ how have you been. > > > Hope things are going well. > > > FYI... I have a MINT Bach 50 B 30 up for sale. > > > Also a Brand new Yamaha Case for any 8 inch straight horn. > > > > > > Deals on Bam Cases > > > > > > Classic Tenor $215.00 > > > X Lite $225.00 > > > Classic Bam $250.00 > > > > > > **Shipping within the USA.. $20.00 > > > > > > Cronkhite Cases. > > > Cordura or Leather > > > From Small tenor to Bass > > > > > > All prices on request. > > > > > > Bach, Faxx Mouthpieces > > > Superslick > > > Mouthpiece Pouches > > > Wallace Practice Mutes ... arriving soon. > > > > > > SlideBone.com underconstruction and will be up shortly. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:05:24 -0500 From: DSlide13@AOL.COM Subject: grammys Hey...did anyone else notice that the Grammy nominees for large jazz ensemble include the Slide Hampton SWR Big Band record? That's simply amazing to me that a trombonist could actually be nominated for a Grammy. I guess anyone can, with the aid of the right publicist, be considered for these honors. I'm so excited for Slide, and all the hopeful bone players who keep pressing along. Maybe someone hears us after all? Congrats to Slide. Peace, David Gibson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:55:27 EST From: MikeSuter@AOL.COM Subject: Good Read Hi Guys, I'm pretty sleepy. I've been up for about 36 hours now keeping the outside out here in (formerly sunny, now rainy) Southern California. We live in a downstairs apartment w/ 2 sliding doors to the outside, and Westlake Village received 6.87" of rain yesterday. You get the picture. But I've had a relatively good time anyway. Between mopping, digging, and such, I've been reading "Hit Me, Fred" by trombonist Fred Wesley; recollections of his time as band leader, arranger, and trombonist with James Brown during the '60s and '70s. It's published by Duke University Press (School presses have never understood fiscal realities very well, so it's a bit pricey at $29.95 - but get it anyway). For those of you who were never on the road and have a somewhat 'rosy' picture of it in your mind (The Glenn Miller Story), this will set you straight without turning you off completely. For those of us fortunate enough to have spent bus time, it'll bring a knowing smile to your face. Try it. You'll like it. All The Best, Mike Suter Slidewerke National Slide Quartet PrimeSlide Design ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:03:08 -0600 From: Wayne Dyess Subject: Sammy Nestico Article at IAJE.org Here's an article by one of my all-time favorite arrangers, Sammy Nestico. Check it out: http://www.iaje.org/article.asp?ArticleID=114 "No one ever gets mad at something pretty." Sammy Nestico Gotta love it, --Wayne Dyess P.S. Whoever said "if it smells, it sells" never met Sammy Nestico. He has published over 600 charts and I've never heard a "smelly" one yet! Trombone content? Well, who da ya thank plays a purtier melody mo purty than da bone man? (no offense, ladies) :-) -- ========================= Dr. J. Wayne Dyess, Professor of Music Lamar University Music Department P. O. Box 10044 Beaumont, Texas 77710 409-880-8146 FAX: 409-880-8143 dyessjw@hal.lamar.edu http://www.lamar.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:10:16 -0600 From: Jeff Albert Subject: Re: grammys Speaking of hearing you guys, I heard a cut off of the new World of Trombones disc on the radio here in New Orleans the other day. Sounded great, they played Dolphin Dance. Jeff Albert www.jeffalbert.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Trombones and related issues forum. [mailto:TROMBONE- > L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU] On Behalf Of DSlide13@AOL.COM > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:05 PM > To: TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU > Subject: [TBN-L] grammys > > Hey...did anyone else notice that the Grammy nominees for large jazz > ensemble include the Slide Hampton SWR Big Band record? That's simply > amazing to me that a trombonist could actually be nominated for a Grammy. > I guess anyone can, with the aid of the right publicist, be considered for > these honors. I'm so excited for Slide, and all the hopeful bone players > who keep pressing along. Maybe someone hears us after all? > > Congrats to Slide. > > Peace, > > David Gibson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:07:37 EST From: ROSEBONE@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Fillmore Trombone Rags Question -Fillmore book Jim and all, the book is titled "Henry Fillmore's Jazz Trombonist - Dixieland Slurring Techniques" pub. Fillmore Music House (a division of Carl Fischer), copyright 1919, this edition published by Carl Fischer in 1966. It literally goes through an encyclopedic set of possibilities for adding glisses to popular tunes of the day. It also is one of the earliest works dealing with harmonic glisses (i.e. cross-grain technique), esp. using 6th and 7th position. You would have to check w/Fischer about status in print/out of print. If anyone is performing or working on literature from the USA during the period of 1900-1930, it is an indispensable resource for how certain players thought, with regards to slide technique, as well a resource for what early ragtime and jazz trombonists did to alter the melody and countermelody lines, literally "jazzing" the music. Bill Rose McNeese State University In a message dated 2/12/03 6:47:26 PM, jobriant@GARLIC.COM writes: >> Check out Fillmore's book on "jazz" trombone, > >> published by Carl Fischer in 1926, for style > >> and technique. Never "swung", played with > >> straight eighth notes. > > > >Do you have the exact title of this? And does anyone know whether it's > >still in print? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:35:15 -0600 From: Wayne Dyess Subject: Tax Tips - IAJE link Tax time for Trombonists... Ever want to interview an IRS agent? Here is an article from trombonist Antonio Garc=EDa (Associate Professor at Northwestern University). Tax Law and the Musician: Q & A with the IRS Antonio J. Garc=EDa with Sallie Goding, Internal Revenue Service Agent, Large and Mid-Size March 2001 Old article, but still has timely tax tips -- even for us trombonists! http://www.iaje.org/article.asp?ArticleID=3D26 WD -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dr. J. Wayne Dyess, Professor of Music Lamar University Music Department P. O. Box 10044 Beaumont, Texas 77710 409-880-8146 FAX: 409-880-8143 dyessjw@hal.lamar.edu http://www.lamar.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:06:28 -0600 From: "D.J. Kennedy" Subject: Re: Fillmore Trombone Rags Question -Fillmore book in st louis there is the scott joplin house ////museu archives etc --------AND very active [[[sheesh]]] piano player ------who runs it a buddy jan -- there is lots of ragtime piano still going on so how the trombone fits in is the thing ------ the 20s was called the jazz era ----hot breaks by miff mole 1926 - rapidly or gradually evolving styles ?????????? piano players are very key [ha ha ]element ROSEBONE@AOL.COM wrote: > Jim and all, > > the book is titled "Henry Fillmore's Jazz Trombonist - Dixieland Slurring > Techniques" > pub. Fillmore Music House (a division of Carl Fischer), copyright 1919, this > edition published by Carl Fischer in 1966. > > It literally goes through an encyclopedic set of possibilities for adding > glisses to popular tunes of the day. It also is one of the earliest works > dealing with harmonic glisses (i.e. cross-grain technique), esp. using 6th > and 7th position. > > You would have to check w/Fischer about status in print/out of print. > > If anyone is performing or working on literature from the USA during the > period of 1900-1930, it is an indispensable resource for how certain players > thought, with regards to slide technique, as well a resource for what early > ragtime and jazz trombonists did to alter the melody and countermelody lines, > literally "jazzing" the music. > > Bill Rose > McNeese State University > In a message dated 2/12/03 6:47:26 PM, jobriant@GARLIC.COM writes: > > >> Check out Fillmore's book on "jazz" trombone, > > > >> published by Carl Fischer in 1926, for style > > > >> and technique. Never "swung", played with > > > >> straight eighth notes. > > > > > > > >Do you have the exact title of this? And does anyone know whether it's > > > >still in print? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:05:40 -0800 From: Chris Tune Subject: Re: Good Read I hope they have the stereotypical: Guy/gal who never gets back to the van/bus on time and must always be hunted down like an animal. . . Guy/gal who hogs up the tape or CD player with their own special brand of music and will not let up. . . Guy/gal who eats most of the best foods backstage and piles heaps into their bag to take back to the hotel room, leaving little for the rest of the band. . . I am thinking of one band I've been with where all these traits resided in ONE PERSON. Heh, heh. . .fond memories. Chris Tune ----- Original Message ----- From: To: < > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:55 AM Subject: [TBN-L] Good Read > Hi Guys, > > I'm pretty sleepy. I've been up for about 36 hours now keeping the outside > out here in (formerly sunny, now rainy) Southern California. We live in a > downstairs apartment w/ 2 sliding doors to the outside, and Westlake Village > received 6.87" of rain yesterday. You get the picture. > > But I've had a relatively good time anyway. Between mopping, digging, and > such, I've been reading "Hit Me, Fred" by trombonist Fred Wesley; > recollections of his time as band leader, arranger, and trombonist with James > Brown during the '60s and '70s. It's published by Duke University Press > (School presses have never understood fiscal realities very well, so it's a > bit pricey at $29.95 - but get it anyway). > > For those of you who were never on the road and have a somewhat 'rosy' > picture of it in your mind (The Glenn Miller Story), this will set you > straight without turning you off completely. For those of us fortunate enough > to have spent bus time, it'll bring a knowing smile to your face. > > Try it. You'll like it. > > All The Best, > Mike Suter > Slidewerke > National Slide Quartet > PrimeSlide Design > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:29:03 -0800 From: alex iles Subject: Re: grammys Trombonist Alan Kaplan's album, "Lonely Town" received a Grammy nomination for Best Arrangement [category 81]. It is for Bill Cunliffe's lovely orchestral arrangement of "Angel Eyes". Sammy Nestico [also nominated] USED to play trombone...does that count? :-) Alex DSlide13@AOL.COM wrote: > Hey...did anyone else notice that the Grammy nominees for large jazz ensemble include the Slide Hampton SWR Big Band record? That's simply amazing to me that a trombonist could actually be nominated for a Grammy. I guess anyone can, with the aid of the right publicist, be considered for these honors. I'm so excited for Slide, and all the hopeful bone players who keep pressing along. Maybe someone hears us after all? > > Congrats to Slide. > > Peace, > > David Gibson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:58:59 -0500 From: DSlide13@AOL.COM Subject: slide/grammys Hey...here's something else that's funny. I just got off the phone with Slide, and he says the recording that's nominated was recorded 25 years ago. It was a live concert that someone finally decided to release as a CD. Either the music is timeless, or the grammy folks are a little slow on the uptake. Probably both. Peace, David Gibson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:27:14 -0600 From: "Richard Z. Johnson" Subject: Re: Good Read Here is my previous post regarding this book. Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:09:31 -0500 From: "Richard Z. Johnson" Subject: Book Review: "Hit Me, Fred: Recollections of a Sideman" by trombonist Fred Wesley Jr. I finished reading the book, "Hit Me, Fred: Recollections of a Sideman", by Fred Wesley, Jr. yesterday. As many are aware, Wesley is most famous as the trombonist and musical director for James Brown. However, reading the book, you will discover that the stint with James Brown was only one facet of a multi-faceted musical career as a sideman, writer, arranger, studio musician and band leader. It was a VERY interesting book......one that I recommend every aspiring professional trombone player or other aspiring professional musician to read. The autobiography covers Fred's musical career from his musical beginnings learning or rather attempting to learn piano as a child to his present day professional musical career. We learn that Fred played professionally as a teenager with a jazz big band. His father was a high school choral director and professional jazz pianist. His grandmother was a piano teacher. He covers his days playing for Ike and Tina Turner, James Brown, Bootsy Collins, George Clinton and their bands of Parliament/Funkadelic and Bootsy's Rubber Band. We learn of his playing days with the Count Basie Band. Wesley is very candid regarding what he feels are the good points AND the bad points in his playing. He talks about his failed audition for a college band scholarship because of his playing shortcomings. He also talks about the major adjustment that he made from being a member of the Parliament/Funkadelic and Bootsy's Rubber Band bands to taking over the second chair that was previously vacated in the Basie band by Al Grey. Wesley is also candid about the dual temptations of women and drugs that are faced by those musicians who are world famous and who are sidemen to the world famous. In addition, he talks about the ruthlessness of the music business, not only the managers and record company owners but also some of the fellow sidemen and the superstars that employ the sidemen. The major thrust of the entire book is that Wesley managed to persevere with a combination of talent, hard work and a smattering of luck. He talks a great deal about his love/hate relationship with James Brown, The Godfather of Soul/Hardest Working Man in Show Business. It is positively hilarious to read Fred's accounts of deciphering James Brown's grunts into music that could be played by the band. Throughout the entire book, you get a feel about a man who has a deep love for music, especially jazz. However, his path always seems to work its way back to the funk genre. He tells of solos that he played and that he recorded and that he was ashamed for his musical peers to hear. Hmmm......some of the solos that he was ashamed to play were ones that I found especially entertaining to hear and play when I was in high school in the early and mid 1970's! He not only played trombone. He wrote and arranged music for several different bands. He worked as a studio musician and even scored a couple of movies. This is a frank and revealing book about a vastly talented man who worked extremely hard to make a living as a professional musician, supporting himself and his family. If you don't feel a need to buy the book but still want to read it, then feel free to ask your library to buy it for you to read. Most public libraries are more than willing to buy book that are requested by their patrons. If you and some of your buddies call or stop by and request a book, there is a good chance that the library will order it for you. The relevant information that you would need to give them is as follows: Title: "Hit Me, Fred" Author: Fred Wesley, Jr. Publisher: Duke University Press ISBN: 0-8223-2909-3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:59:50 -0800 From: Chris Tune Subject: Re: grammys Both of those definitely "count". And Sammy has some very nice trombone parts and features in his charts. If anyone on the list hasn't heard Alan's CD, it is a sort of "throwback" to the days when trombonists like Urbie Green, Lloyd Ulyate and Murray McEachern would make a "romantic" album with a string orchestra, full reeds (i.e. oboe, english horn, clarinets flutes) and would really "sing" on the trombone. Every tune on this album is accompanied by a roughly sixty piece orchestra. Three different, very gifted arrangers set the tunes. There is not any jazz soloing and very little of Alan's playing would be said to deviate from straight renditions of the standards chosen, but nonetheless, the album is absolutely brilliant. Alan has an immaculate legato and great tone throughout. As Steve Ferguson told me when I bought it, "this is the kind of album you get out when you've got a bottle of wine, and you cuddle up with your lady in front of the fire. . ." I can tell Alan really enjoys the "beautiful", "singing" side of the trombone. One of the finest trombone albums I have (and I've got loads). Oh. . .you can get Alan's album at: www.AlanKaplan.org Chris Tune. ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex iles" To: < > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [TBN-L] grammys > Trombonist Alan Kaplan's album, "Lonely Town" received a Grammy nomination for Best Arrangement [category 81]. It is for Bill Cunliffe's lovely orchestral arrangement of "Angel Eyes". > > Sammy Nestico [also nominated] USED to play trombone...does that count? :-) > > Alex > > > > DSlide13@AOL.COM wrote: > > > Hey...did anyone else notice that the Grammy nominees for large jazz ensemble include the Slide Hampton SWR Big Band record? That's simply amazing to me that a trombonist could actually be nominated for a Grammy. I guess anyone can, with the aid of the right publicist, be considered for these honors. I'm so excited for Slide, and all the hopeful bone players who keep pressing along. Maybe someone hears us after all? > > > > Congrats to Slide. > > > > Peace, > > > > David Gibson > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:27:42 -0500 From: Randy Campora Subject: Pederson Intermediate BTRB Etudes Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Pederson's Intermediate Etudes for Bass Trombone? My copy has gone missing a while ago and I don't see it listed in catalogs. I hope it's not out of print for ever and ever... It was always my favorite Pederson volume and now I don't have it around any longer. Help, Randy Campora Baltimore ------------------------------ End of TROMBONE-L Digest - 12 Feb 2003 to 13 Feb 2003 (#2003-44) ****************************************************************