Subject: TROMBONE-L Digest - 8 Feb 2003 to 9 Feb 2003 (#2003-40) Date: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:00 AM From: Automatic digest processor Reply-To: "Trombones and related issues forum." To: Recipients of TROMBONE-L digests There are 3 messages totalling 122 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Quiet List/List Update 2. How to multiply trombones and save money 3. Edwards B2 leadpipe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:52:24 -0600 From: Listmonitor Trombone-L Subject: Quiet List/List Update Yes, the list has been quite quiet. Just a quick status update. If you ever have a concern about your subscription, please visit http://po.missouri.edu. You will have to register using the e-mail address to which your trombone-l mail is sent, and you will then be able to check your subscription settings. An added benefit is that the software for the web interface is the same software that processes the list, so if you are able to access the web interface, the list is working. If I can be of assistance in any way, please e-mail off-list. LM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:57:56 -0600 From: Corliss Subject: How to multiply trombones and save money Here's a post that I wrote for the forum that may interests some:=20 I have a King 2b that has been my favored trombone for doing my own = gigs, i.e., when I am by myself and not playing with a big band. Every = once in a while we have a quarrel and I start to look around for a = replacement. This time in doing this I became overwhelmed at how = fortunate I was and at how many good replacements I had. I figured = sixty-eight trombones, and all of them are good professional level = trombones. How could that be? The answer is that you have to learn to = mulptiply trombones. There are three way of doing this. In general - I haven't checked them all - the Conn .485s and .500s have = interchangeable bells and slides. I have a 4h, 6h, and 48h. That gives = me eight trombones - eight combinations. The Olds Ambassador, Special, = Studio, Super and Recording have, usually, interchangeable slides and = bells. Lots of possibilities there. Unfortunately the King 3bs and 2bs = are not interchangeble.=20 A second way of multiplying trombones is to buy a bell that will fit a = slide one already has. My best deal here was to buy a King Silversonic = 3b (sterling silver bell) to go with my standard 3b slide. The = Silversonic 3b usually sells for about $1100 and it does not have a = sterling silver slide, but one similar, if not identiical, to the = standard 3b. I bought the Silversonic bell for $450 off of eBay and paid = $500 for the brass 3b. That gave me two 3bs for less than the going rate = for one Silversonic 3b. A couple of times I have bought a trombone whose = slide was no good for $100 because I wanted the bell. I got a Olds Super = bell that way and an Conn Coprion, all copper bell that way.=20 A third way to multiply trombones is to use "the brace" - a little metal = mechanism that you can expand and use as a support between upper and = lower slides, down close to where the water key is. It makes the slide = stiffer, darkens the tone, and makes a particular trombone function as = if it were larger. They are made by Greenhoe (?)- the company that makes = the valves. Gary Greenhoe participates often in this forum. Several = years ago there was a lot of discussion of these in that forum. Recently = I have used the brace on an Olds Super and a King 2b Silversonic, and = liked it very much. The brace changed my attitude about the use of each = instrument. Note a brace - an investment of about $85 - doubles the = number of your trombones! What did the sixty-eight trombones cost? About five thousand dollars - = about seventy dollars per trombone! Note that they include two 3bs and = two 2bs - sterling silver and brass. For those four trombones you would = pay more than five thousand dollars new. Besides there is a 6h, 48h, 4h = - with a number of extra bells - and two Olds Recordings and an Olds = Super - with some extra bells. I returned to the trombone seven years = ago without a decent trombone or mouthpiece and never expected to build = a collection - which I'm sure is small compared to what many of you = have. It's best to build slowly - looking for the good buys and checking = out with others to find out which trombones are really good.=20 Some will say that the suggestion here has not much practical value = because seldom is a person going to put together combinations that do = not come together. In playing my owns music, however, I usually end up = preferring slides and bells that were not purchased together.=20 A participant suggested to me a fourth way of doing this kind of thing - = look for mouthpieces that are similar to what you use but have a = different tone. Mouthpieces are less expensive than trombones. Sometimes = I take two 11cs to a gig - the Selmer 11c is brighter than my Mt Vernon = 11c.=20 Richard Corliss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 22:21:43 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." Subject: Edwards B2 leadpipe Dear friends, I have a student that would like to purchase a good used Edwards B2 leadpipe. If any of you bass trombonists have one for sale, contact him at GAdawgsfan01@aol.com. His name is Jeff Cook. Paul Kemp Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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