Subject: TROMBONE-L Digest - 25 Jan 2003 to 26 Jan 2003 (#2003-26) Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:00 AM From: Automatic digest processor Reply-To: "Trombones and related issues forum." To: Recipients of TROMBONE-L digests There are 23 messages totalling 786 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Looking for a teacher (9) 2. Most Influential Non-Trombonists? 3. Heros (Non-Trombonists) 4. Canadian TV: "Voice of God" (2) 5. Free $20 6. Mouth Cavity Size 7. SuperBowl (2) 8. DC/Baltimore Area Trombone Repair (3) 9. Subject: Re: Most Influential Non-Trombonists? 10. New Tenor Tbn Solo 11. UK listers: National Youth Band of New Zealand Tour ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:14:21 -0800 From: "James W. Yardley" Subject: Looking for a teacher Hello everyone. A friend of mine is leaving next week to study abroad in Limerick, Ireland. He plays bass trombone and is taking his instrument with him. Please e-mail me off list if you know of anyone in that area he might be able to study with. Any leads would be great. Thanks. Take care, James Yardley ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:19:21 -0600 From: "D.J. Kennedy" Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher there one was a boy w a bone he went off in search of a tone his bone was as big as a creek so off to erie he went to limmereek !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he studdied w paddy with mc grew he ate the mulligan stew he got in a fite that lasted al nite thats howhe met his wife lou !!!!!!!!!!! James W. Yardley wrote: > Hello everyone. A friend of mine is leaving next week to study abroad in > Limerick, Ireland. He plays bass trombone and is taking his instrument with > him. Please e-mail me off list if you know of anyone in that area he might > be able to study with. Any leads would be great. Thanks. > > Take care, > James Yardley ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 05:25:02 -0800 From: Howard Swain Subject: Re: Most Influential Non-Trombonists? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Oien" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Most Influential Non-Trombonists? > I would like to hear who has influenced you the most outside > of the world of trombone players. This thread has forced me to de-lurk. Without a doubt, the most influential non-trombonist for me was Howard E. Swain (my father, now deceased ). My Dad was a very good tuba/string bass player in the 1940's, 50's & 60's around the Council Bluffs Iowa/Omaha Nebraska area. He also was the only person who encouraged me to stick with it when I first took up the trombone in grade school (about the middle of the last century). Howard Swain Kansas City, MO ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:40:12 -0000 From: Adrian Drover Subject: Re: Heros (Non-Trombonists) I find it difficult to contribute to this thread. Most of my heroes are arrangers and composers, and on inspection it seems like most of them are/were all trombonists. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:28:30 -0000 From: Adrian Drover Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher From: "D.J. Kennedy" > there one was a boy w a bone > he went off in search of a tone > his bone was as big as a creek > so off to erie he went to limmereek !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "erie"???? Don't tell me they've dumped the Republic of Ireland into one of the Great Lakes. D.J., you've been terribly naughty, For spelling ain't your greatest forte. Now Eire is green, and Erie is seen, to be where it shouldn't danged ought'ie. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:05:24 -0500 From: Steve Beck Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher From: "Adrian Drover" > Now Eire is green, Oh Adrian, where have you been that made you think Erie was green? for it's dirty and brown (he said with a frown) ain't been green since France had a queen Uh oh, no trombone content - how about changing that last line to and now only Urbie is Green ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:11:43 -0500 From: "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" Subject: Re: Canadian TV: "Voice of God" On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, David Buckley wrote: > Anyone who has seen the pft repeated TV show "The Voice of God" - naturally about > trombones and featuring Alain Trudel and Richard Raum - will know that John > Griffiths is "God". All hints, instructions, advice etc from John are to be > treated as on a par with the 10 Commandments - not to be ignored lightly. Prof. Griffiths wonders what you thought about the actual programme? He adds that he is playing trombone in the show, too. Carole Nowicke cnowicke@indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:40:16 -0600 From: Bill Dinwiddie Subject: Free $20 Once again, I would like to remind our members that a free $20.00 awaits any and all people who file a claim (it will take you 3 minutes). A fund of 143 million dollars has been established to pay out the maximum $20.00 to anyone who bought a CD between Jan.1, 1995 and Dec. 22, 2000. If you live in one of the 43 eligible states that participated in the class action lawsuit, you will almost certainly get the money. The Chicago Tribune said today that only about 900,000 people have claimed so far. Only if 8.8 million people apply, will the payout drop to $5.00 (which will then go to charity). The deadline is March 3, 2003. Actually, you are just getting back your own money from the record companies that ripped you off by price fixing. You can even file a claim for people who are now dead! Kind of sounds like a Chicago political thing, doesn't it? But it's for real! Go to this website to file your claim: www.musiccdsettlement.com or call the toll-free phone number: 1-877-347-4782 Thanks, Bill Dinwiddie Chicago (Where the dead have civil rights too) bill752d@attbi.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:28:30 -0000 From: Adrian Drover Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher From: "Steve Beck" > Oh Adrian, where have you been > that made you think Erie was green? > for it's dirty and brown > (he said with a frown) > ain't been green since France had a queen I've been to the land they call the Emerald Isle, Spelt diff'rent from the lake resembling a dog shit pile. Steve, you need a Guinness. Better still, make it two. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:48:14 -0600 From: "D.J. Kennedy" Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher red rover red rover hes comin thru the rye with his slide held high to learn the mighty bone and eat a scone or bisket too a tiskit a tasket 0learn about gaskets erin and oshaunnoseys and straight malt gestalt ----and gyro valves --hes comin in tune -hes comin soon maybe b4 june rover hes comin to you with kilt all a tilt to learn his spelling too celts and felting workshops and why is it so green out on the moors --with their charred faces grease wool the porrige ---- limerick may be his destination the winds will blow ---the path may stray ---you better make em a place to stay theres lessoons 2b lernt 5 pence a day Adrian Drover wrote: > From: "D.J. Kennedy" > > > there one was a boy w a bone > > he went off in search of a tone > > his bone was as big as a creek > > so off to erie he went to limmereek !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > "erie"???? Don't tell me they've dumped the Republic of Ireland into one > of the Great Lakes. > > D.J., you've been terribly naughty, > For spelling ain't your greatest forte. > Now Eire is green, > and Erie is seen, > to be where it shouldn't danged ought'ie. > > A. > > Adrian Drover > ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk > Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:52:15 -0600 From: "Marple, Richard L COL BAMC-Ft Sam Houston" Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher Now Steve you and Adrian both Despite being long in the tooth Got Erie all wrong Since the Oils moved on Now our rivers don't burn for the mosth. Rick Marple Native Clevelander and longterm Indians fan Just living in a southern suberb San Antonio TX -----Original Message----- From: Steve Beck [mailto:becks@PILOT.MSU.EDU] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:05 AM To: TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Looking for a teacher From: "Adrian Drover" > Now Eire is green, Oh Adrian, where have you been that made you think Erie was green? for it's dirty and brown (he said with a frown) ain't been green since France had a queen Uh oh, no trombone content - how about changing that last line to and now only Urbie is Green ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:06:56 -0600 From: "Marple, Richard L COL BAMC-Ft Sam Houston" Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher Trombone content: The UMI Factories are on the westside of Cleveland away from most of the old pollution problems. I feel I must defend my homeland from mistaken impressions. It is true that Lake Erie was terribly polluted in the 60-70's. I can't comment on Canada's part, but we dumped everything into it expecting the St Lawrence seaway to spit it out eventually. Lake Erie is only 60 feet deep at its deepest part, that means its entire volume of water turns over very quickly. That is also why it is the most dangerous of the Great Lakes since even moderate winds can whip up big waves. When the steel and oil industry left in about 1976 and mostly moved to Houston and out of country, Lake Erie was the first lake to recover due to the water turnover. Downtown Cleveland looks completely different than it did just 20 years ago. It almost looks...cosmopollitin. Not your steel town of yester-year. So while you still can't eat much fish from the Hudson River in NY, Lake Erie fish are not regulated for health. Rick Marple Ex-Clevelander -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Drover [mailto:slide.rule@ADIOS.CO.UK] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:29 AM To: TROMBONE-L@PO.MISSOURI.EDU Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Looking for a teacher From: "Steve Beck" > Oh Adrian, where have you been > that made you think Erie was green? > for it's dirty and brown > (he said with a frown) > ain't been green since France had a queen I've been to the land they call the Emerald Isle, Spelt diff'rent from the lake resembling a dog shit pile. Steve, you need a Guinness. Better still, make it two. A. Adrian Drover ADIOS, Scotland www.adios.co.uk Personal email: adrian@adios.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:11:11 -0600 From: "Marple, Richard L COL BAMC-Ft Sam Houston" Subject: Re: Looking for a teacher Subject: Re: [TBN-L] Looking for a teacher Spell Check Follow On It almost looks...cosmopolitan. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:16:02 -0500 From: David Buckley Subject: Re: Mouth Cavity Size The show is produced in Canada and is called The Voice of God. I can't believe it hasn't been shown on PBS or other lesser known arts channels. Watch for it. Dave. Robert Slaven wrote: > Yup, Richard Raum was the trombone teacher -- complete with Elizabeth for oboe > and their kids -- at SSSA in '79. What's this show, where is it oft-repeated, > and is it available on tape? > > As for the Raums, I keep wondering if their violinist daughter, Erika, was the > one who once asked her mom as I walked by wearing a T-shirt from the fictional > Sachs Harbour Institute of Technology, 'Mommy, why does that man have a bad > word on his shirt?' (Sachs Harbour is a real place, about 72 degrees North, > and I have indeed played trombone there on a band trip. They do not, however, > have an institute of technology. %-) > > Oh well, enough reminiscing. Back to nagging the insurance company for my > trombone money! > > Robert > > -- > Robert & Linn-Marie Slaven www.robertslaven.ca > ...with Stuart, Rebecca, Mariann, Kristina, Elizabeth, and Robin too > On Tower Hill two Mormons were trying to address a meeting. Round their > platform struggled a mob of men, shouting and interrupting. Someone was > denouncing them for polygamists.... There was a confused uproar of > voices.... I listened for twenty minutes, anxious to learn something > about Mormonism, but the meeting never got beyond shouts. It is the > general fate of street meetings. > - George Orwell, Down and Out in Paris and London > > From: "David Buckley" > > Anyone who has seen the pft repeated TV show "The Voice of God" - naturally > about > > trombones and featuring Alain Trudel and Richard Raum - will know that John > > Griffiths is "God". All hints, instructions, advice etc from John are to be > > treated as on a par with the 10 Commandments - not to be ignored lightly. > > > > Great guy John and good advice about singing. My philosophy is we manage to > > imitate good vocal style, then everything else will fall into place. Well > maybe > > not my high register and tonguing, but everything that matters musically. > > > > > "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Robert Slaven wrote: > > > > > > > John Griffiths as the tuba teacher. John heard my sound and said "Your > > > > throat's too tight; go find a choir and sing for a while." So I joined > the > > > > > > I quoted Prof. Griffiths on the trumpet list the other day. He offers > > > "natural" cryogenic services (even during summer). John will don fur-lined > > > undergarments and run one's instrument around the Regina airport tarmac > > > for 10 minutes for a modest price. > > > > > > John's teacher, Abe Torchinsky likes to demonstrate how he himself has a > > > large resonant voice ("not like an old man") because he thinks about oral > > > cavity, keeping the throat open, and using enough air. Mr. Torchinsky > > > said that's one of the many lessons he learned from Bill Bell. > > > > > > Carole Nowicke > > > cnowicke@indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:28:14 -0500 From: David Buckley Subject: Re: Canadian TV: "Voice of God" I really enjoyed the program, even though it was a bit fragmented and I had told John that a few years ago. Yes I saw John playing trombone in Richard Raum's choir - probably John would agree that was not the musical highlight of the show. It did remind me of the time we played the brass band version of 76 trombones as an encore at a program where John was playing his tuba and Alain Trudel, Al Kay and Pierre Beaudry trombone. They joined with the section from Intrada Brass for the encore. John volunteered to play too if we had a spare trombone. His mates handed him the part as they walked on stage and you would not believe the horror on John's face when as the intro began, he realised they had given him a treble clef 1st trom part. Great fun, all taken in good spirit and no one in the audience knew. Dave. "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, David Buckley wrote: > > > Anyone who has seen the pft repeated TV show "The Voice of God" - naturally about > > trombones and featuring Alain Trudel and Richard Raum - will know that John > > Griffiths is "God". All hints, instructions, advice etc from John are to be > > treated as on a par with the 10 Commandments - not to be ignored lightly. > > Prof. Griffiths wonders what you thought about the actual programme? He > adds that he is playing trombone in the show, too. > > Carole Nowicke > cnowicke@indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:19:29 -0800 From: Larry White Subject: SuperBowl Having just watched the National Anthem on T V, it is hard to imagine that it was just a year ago that Doug Yeo was giving us his daily reports about their trip to the Super Bowl last year. Thought everybody did a nice job today, but sure missed the Trombones! May the best team win. LarryWhite ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:15:40 -0500 From: "Daniel E. Beckley" Subject: DC/Baltimore Area Trombone Repair Does anyone have a pick for a good trombone repair guy in the = DC/Baltimore area? Dave Kratz used to be the man, but it seems he has = shut down shop. Thanks! -Daniel E. Beckley Freelance Bass Trombonist, Low Brass Instructor Washington, D.C. Metro Area (703) 366-3483 beckley@beckleyweb.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:44:20 +0000 From: Walter Barrett Subject: Re: DC/Baltimore Area Trombone Repair Thus spake, not Zarathustra, but Daniel E. Beckley > Does anyone have a pick for a good trombone repair guy in the DC/Baltimore > area? Dave Kratz used to be the man, but it seems he has shut down shop. > Thanks! > > -Daniel E. Beckley > Freelance Bass Trombonist, Low Brass Instructor > Washington, D.C. Metro Area > (703) 366-3483 > beckley@beckleyweb.com Here you go... Todd Clontz Repairman Clontz Custom Brass Work: (410) 636-1007 5600 Ritchie Highway Baltimore, MD 21225 USA E-mail: tclontz@rossomusic.com Walter Barrett " these bits of metal are nothing until you add talent and dedication..." -D.J. Kennedy Yamaha Artist/Clinician Tenor, Alto, Bass Trombones Euphonium Bass Trumpet Tuba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:09:51 -0600 From: conn60h Subject: Subject: Re: Most Influential Non-Trombonists? I had to shorten my list down from a few hundred, to a dozen or = so...........It ain't easy Cat Anderson Bill Bell Lester Bowie Harold Brasch Denis Brain Clifford Brown Karen Carpenter Bing Crosby Leonard Falcone Stan Freese Spike Jones Frank Zappa Yikes! I gotta stop this somehow Kenny Jay conn60h@visi.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:13:49 -0500 From: "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" Subject: Re: DC/Baltimore Area Trombone Repair On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Daniel E. Beckley wrote: > Does anyone have a pick for a good trombone repair guy in the DC/Baltimore area? Dave Kratz used to be the man, but it seems he has shut down shop. > Thanks! Bob Pallansch in Falls Church has worked on everything I have *but* a trombone-including my ophicleide. Carole Nowicke cnowicke@indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:58:14 EST From: AIREV@AOL.COM Subject: New Tenor Tbn Solo Greetings Everybody, We are pleased to announce the release of the printed music for Norman Bolter's "3 Faces," an unaccompanied solo for tenor trombone in three movements. The first movement ("Finding It") calls for lots of changes in direction on short notice. The second movement ("WIthin") uses Harmon mute, and calls for singing and playing at the same time. The third movement ("Look Mom, No Hands!") calls on the player to really 'show off,' flying with great fun and speed. For more information about this piece, including ordering, please visit: http://www.air-ev.com/catalogue.html Click Sheet Music in the side bar. This work is listed alphabetically under Solo Trombone. Also, to hear an MP3 sound sample of the premiere recording of this work (played by Darren Acosta on Norman's new CD, "Occurrences"), please visit: http://www.air-ev.com/recordings.html Scroll down to "Occurrences," listed alphabetically on that page. Best wishes and enjoy! Carol ************************************************** Carol Viera, Ph.D. Owner, Air-ev Productions (R) Co-Director, Frequency Band (R) Endeavour E-mail: airev@aol.com/ Website: http://www.air-ev.com/ ************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:38:56 -0800 From: Andrew Michael Subject: Re: SuperBowl At 3:19 PM -0800 1/26/03, Larry White wrote: > >Thought everybody did a nice job today, but sure missed the Trombones! Didn't you notice the funky bell brace on the trombonist playing with Santana? The bell was supported inside a ring rather than soldered to the brace. I think these have been discussed here before with respect to whether or not they let the bell be more responsive or some such. But overall, I did miss Doug's diary this year. Cheers, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:53:52 +1300 From: Hamish Dean Subject: UK listers: National Youth Band of New Zealand Tour This is one for all of you in the UK The National Youth Brass Band of New Zealand will be touring England and Wales from the 4-29th April this year. The band is of a very high standand and will be performing concerts with the National Youth band of Great Britian as well as other well known top UK bands. If anyone is interested in a full detailed itinary, I can foreward the details to see if we are performing near you. I am playing Bass trombone in the band and have been called in at the last minute as the regular player has dropped out. If any of you do manage to get to one of our concerts please feel free to come up and say hi! The band being made up of Kiwi's we are all very approachable and easygoing and would love to join some of the locals in a pint of guiness or two! I am also taking this oppertunity to stay on in the London at the conclusion of the tour and hopefully sound out some playing oppertunities. I realise the paid gigs wont come straight away so I'll be happy for the chance to play. I am a qualified professional freelance trombone player here in Wellington NZ and play Alto,Tenor & Bass Trombones. Please feel free to contact me for more information and I look forward to meeting some of you in April. Regards Hamish Dean Bass Trombone National Youth Band of New Zealand Principal Trombone Wellington Sinfonia www.wellingtonsinfonia.co.nz Central Band of the Royal New Zealand Air Force ------------------------------ End of TROMBONE-L Digest - 25 Jan 2003 to 26 Jan 2003 (#2003-26) ****************************************************************