TROMBONE-L Digest 2284 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) biographical info by Angie Brunk 2) Re: Annie Whitehead by jimjohnston 3) RE: Annie Whitehead by "Edward Solomon" 4) Re: Haitian Fight Song by "kalwas" 5) Reviewers needed by "Richard Human, Jr." 6) A Casual Band For Noah (Does he swing?) by Galen Zinn 7) Whole horn kicker by Craig Parmerlee 8) Thank you! by "Richard Human, Jr." 9) Re: Whole horn kicker by "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" 10) Tuba Mirum for 6 trombones, NEW!!! by Gordon Cherry 11) Jon Bohls by 12) Re: Whole horn kicker by "Daniel Pliskin" 13) Fw: A Casual Band For Noah (Does he swing?) by "Bill Dinwiddie" 14) All Trombone Radio revisited by "Tom C. Shaddox" 15) Re: Whole horn kicker by Bruce Guttman 16) Re: Whole horn kicker by Craig Parmerlee ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:02:30 -0500 From: Angie Brunk To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: biographical info Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi all, Since requests for biographical information on musicians and composers frequently appear on this list, I thought I'd pass along a great link. It's a compilation of reputable biography web sites. The music web sites are about halfway down the page. Angie http://www.ala.org/acrl/resjan02.html ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:57:24 -0800 From: jimjohnston To: zemry@bellsouth.net Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Annie Whitehead Message-ID: <3C55BB34.156D624A@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe she played for a group in London called 'Loose Tubes' in the 80's. Search under that name, it might turn up something. JJ CA Richard Johnson wrote: > I was reading the news on The Mail and Guardian, a South African on-line > newspaper, and noticed a picture of a female British jazz trombonist by the > name of Annie Whitehead. Has anyone here ever heard of her? She is playing a > jazz festival in South Africa next month. > **************************************************************************** > ** > Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr. > "The Untouchables" Jazz Ensemble > Shreveport Metropolitan Concert Band > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > , > "There won't come a time when you won't have to practice anymore." > J. J. Johnson > > **************************************************************************** > ***** > I'm not satisfied with anything about my playing. I know what I want. I can > hear it; but it will take time and study to get it" > -Sonny Rollins > (1956) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:25:49 -0000 From: "Edward Solomon" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Annie Whitehead Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Annie is still going strong! Her home page is http://www.earthmusic.com/annie.htm. __________________________________________ Edward Solomon British Trombone Society Webmaster mailto:webmaster@trombone-society.org.uk Visit "The Trombonist Online" - the online magazine of the British Trombone Society http://www.trombone-society.org.uk __________________________________________ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:02:34 -0500 From: "kalwas" To: "trombone-l" Subject: Re: Haitian Fight Song Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Dear Listers, > > I've been listening to Charles Mingus' 'Haitian Fight Song', having made > its first acquaintance watching the movie 'Jerry McGuire'. Does anyone > know of a big band arrangement that features Jimmy Knepper's trombone > solo, perhaps as a trombone section feature? > > Thanks, > Dave Burch Dave - I haven't seen a reply to your question so I'll chime in. I tracked down this tune when my son noticed it acouple of years ago on, of all places, a Volkswagen TV ad! It is not a big band version, but does feature Jimmy Knepper. It is on an album titled "The Clown", a 1999 reissue of an Atlantic LP from 1957. (R2 75590) Hope this helps. Bob Kalwas ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:17:44 -0600 From: "Richard Human, Jr." To: Trombone List Subject: Reviewers needed Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello all, We are starting to get a good bit of material for review here at the OTJ, and I would like to solicit one-two additional persons to write reviews of new recordings, literature, and other things. If you are a strong writer and feel that you have enough experience with the trombone world to make solid decisions about music and literature, then please contact me and I'll send you a list of available items. We don't pay our reviewers, but you do get to keep whatever it is are asked to review. Thank you, Richard Human, Jr. -- Dr. Richard Human Jr. richard@trombone.org Assistant Professor of Music Trombone and Music Theory Mississippi State University Office: (662) 325-2871 Founder, Webmaster and Publisher trombone.org: A web site for trombonists. http://www.trombone.org/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:59:56 -0800 From: Galen Zinn To: Trombone List Post Subject: A Casual Band For Noah (Does he swing?) Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I received this from a drummer friend. Delete now if you have no stomach for jokes... And so in the dark of night the Lord awoke Noah, and spoke to him. "Noah, awake and heed my words!" And Noah, being sore, afraid and disoriented, did cry out, "Who goeth there?" And the Lord did smite him upside the head, saying, "It is the Lord of all things, dummy!" And Noah did tremble, saying, Lord, why hath thou wakened me?" And the Lord did say, "Noah, build me a Casual Band. "For the earth will be visited by a plague of Brides, followed by forty days of Trade Shows and forty nights of Awards Banquets." And Noah did say, "Command me, Lord." And the Lord did say, "First, thou must find me a Leader." And Noah replied, "But Lord, will I not be thy Leader?" And the Lord did smite him again, saying, "Fool, thou will be my Contractor. Ask not why!" And Noah did bow his head, saying, "Yes, my Lord. And what will this leader play?" And the Lord said, "It mattereth little, whether he play or not, or whether he be proficient or not. For his job shall primarily be to talk to the Brides and their Mothers, and to deal with Clients, and to count off Tempos wrong, and to inquire as to whether Overtime will happen, and to try to segue tunes that should not be segued. If he playeth any instrument, thou must always have another player of that instrument on the band, just to be safe." And Noah did say, "And what else shall this Leader do?" And the Lord replied, "It shall be his job to spread Bad Information and Confusion amongst the Sidemen, and to pit them one against the other, and to delay all payments. "Further shall it be his job, until we can afford a Soundman, to create Feedback, and to invent new Equalization Curves therefore." And Noah did shake his head in wonder, saying, "Lord, thy ways are Strange and mysterious. What more shall I do?" And the Lord said, "Next, find me a Rhythm Section. First, find me a Drummer. And Three Things above all must this Drummer possess." And Noah did ask, "What are these Three Things? Double Bass Drums? An Electronic Kit? Congas?" And the Lord did smite Noah again, saying "Second-guess me not, my servant. First, this Drummer must have slightly imperfect time, so that whenever he playeth a Fill (and he shall play many), he always emergeth at a different place, sometimes early and sometimes late, but thou may not guess which. And second, he must be Supremely Discontent, always hoping for the Big Break which will lead to him playing with Chick Corea or Madonna, so that he despiseth Jobbing. " And third, he must always be convinced of his Righteousness, in all things, including Time, Volume, Tempo and Feel, so that he argueth always with the Bass Player." And Noah did say, "As you command, Lord. And what next?" And the Lord did say, "Thou art learning, Noah. Next shall be the Bass Player.... And he shall be Bored. That is all." And Noah did say, "Of course. And next, my Lord?" "Next shall be the Piano Player. And he shall play as if he has twenty fingers, and he shall ply Substitute upon Substitute, until no man may name the Chord, and he will not be helpful. Furthermore, he shall always be late. And he shall always be trying out New Gear, of which he has no knowledge." And Noah did wonder aloud, "Lord, Great is thy Wisdom!" "Next shall be the Guitar Player. And he shall be a Rock Guitar Player. And he shall be Loud, and he shall sing 'Old Time Rock m Roll'. Also shall he know not The Page, and so shall rely upon his Ears, which have been damaged by exposure to High Sound Pressure Levels. For the Guitarists who Read shall already be playing Shows, and will be making the Big Shekels. And his tux shall be the Rattiest." And Noah did say, "It shall be done." And the Lord did say, "Next thou shall need Horns. First shall be the Saxophones. And they shall be Beboppers. And they shall play their Bird quotes in every song, yea, even the Celine Dion ballad. And they shall Get High on every break, and make the Long Faces all night long, but especially when 'In The Mood' is called. Next shall be the Trumpeters. And they shall every one attempt to take everything Up an Octave, and fail frequently. And of Changes they shall know nothing. And finally shall be the Trombone Player. And many jokes will be made about him, for he will have a Beeper, as well as a Day Job, and he will be the first to be Cut from the Band. And Noah, taking many notes, did say, "Mighty is the Lord!" "Next shall be the String Players. Find me Three Women, and attach Pickups to their Violins that are more ancient even than Myself, so that their instruments screecheth and causeth great pain. And their job shall be to dress in Evening Gowns, and to Fake Parts on all Ballads, and to occasionally Stroll, and to complain about the Volume, and the Intonation, and to impede the Swing." And Noah did say, "What else can be left, Lord?" And the Lord did say, "Finally, find me the Singers. And they shall be Three, one a Male, and two Females. And the Male shall be a Strutting Peacock, with the Rock 'N Roll Hair, and he shall never have to wear The Tuxedo, and also shall he play The Harmonica. And of the Females, one shall be Black and one shall be White. And the Black one shall ALWAYS sing the Aretha songs, and the Disco. And the White one shall ALWAYS sing the Power Ballads, and the Country Songs. But both shall share the Motown Medley, and shall sing Backup for the Male, and forget the Words, and be Late, and know nothing of Keys or Form. And they shall leave every gig immediately, having never touched a piece of Equipment. And they shall be paid many more shekels than the Sidemen. Ask not why." And Noah did say, "As Thou sayest, my Lord." And the Lord did command him, "Search high and low for these, as not every musician can fulfill these requirements. And though we have No Work yet, a Commitment must be secured from All. And while you're at it, start looking for Subs." And Noah did say, "Lord, thy will be done." .......................And it was. Galen Zinn E-mail: zinger@musician.org ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:57:57 -0400 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Whole horn kicker Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020129103548.00b95850@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A few months ago there was a thread that discussed the idea of a whole-horn kicker slide as an alternative to the costly, heavy, muffling compensation systems on pro line euphoniums. I made the argument that a whole horn kicker should be superior in every respect. In particular, compensation systems only benefit a few notes, leaving most of the intonation problems uncorrected. Another point of view was expressed that it wasn't practical to build a kicker large enough to do the job. Well, in the past few weeks, I've put my money where my mouth is. I have built just such an instrument and have learned that it is absolutely practical. I am more convinced than ever that a mob mentality has taken compensating euphoniums down a blind alley. The instrument I'm working on is a bass valve trombone -- I prefer to think of it as an alto cimbasso. It is a 4-valve design with no compensation. I am adapting the original tuning slide to be a kicker. I have converted another (previously hard soldered) bow to be a "normal" tuning slide. The central question is just how much of a kicker throw is needed to do the same job as the compensation system. The answer is much less than you might think. My instrument has a throw of under 3 inches, which is almost enough to bring even the low B into tune. Any euphonium could incorporate a throw of 3 inches without distorting the cylindrical versus conical proportions significantly. Here is a key point. The 4th valve need not be tuned as a perfect 4th. In other words, you need never use the 4th valve except to reach the notes below E below the staff. Because you have a whole-horn kicker, you can play any of the higher notes in tune using the first 3 valves plus the kicker as necessary (a compensation system can't do that). Therefore, the 4th valve can be set longer than a perfect 4th so as to get the low Eb in tune. You then need a range on the kicker to handle the difference between Eb and B. If you're willing to lip up slightly on the Eb and lip down a little on the B, 3 inches (times 2 legs) is sufficient for the kicker slide. It looks like 3-1/2 inches would cover everything. My instrument doesn't quite have that, but it is close enough. Even coming up a little short, it seems to me to be far superior than a compensation system. So again I wonder why so much time, money, and effort have been put into those difficult compensation systems and those counterintuitive 1st and 3rd trumpet slides when a simple whole horn kicker is more effective, cheaper to build, and easier to play. Inquiring minds want to know. Craig ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:50:45 -0600 From: "Richard Human, Jr." To: Trombone List Subject: Thank you! Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Greetings, Thank for all the people who wrote and expressed an interest in reviewing music and recordings for the OTJ. I have responded to most and will continue this morning. Take care, Richard -- Dr. Richard Human Jr. richard@trombone.org Assistant Professor of Music Trombone and Music Theory Mississippi State University Office: (662) 325-2871 Founder, Webmaster and Publisher trombone.org: A web site for trombonists. http://www.trombone.org/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science" To: Craig Parmerlee Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Whole horn kicker Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > A few months ago there was a thread that discussed the idea of a whole-horn > kicker slide as an alternative to the costly, heavy, muffling compensation > systems on pro line euphoniums. What about the kicker Henry Charles Smith designed for Conn? Mind you, I've never clapped eyes on one, but reputed to be thumb operated kicker for the main tuning slide. Carole Nowicke cnowicke@indiana.edu ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:45:18 -0800 From: Gordon Cherry To: gcherry@interchange.ubc.ca Subject: Tuba Mirum for 6 trombones, NEW!!! Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1199803201==_ma============" Dear Colleagues, I am very excited about my newest transcription for trombone ensemble. I don't know why I haven't thought of it before, but this movement is very beautiful and will make a beautiful addition to your concert. Please, don't hesitate to try it, because you will be amazed at its beauty. Thanks as usual, Gordon Cherry Principal Trombone, Vancouver Symphony ===================== TUBA MIRUM from the REQUIEM by W.A. MOZART, newly transcribed for 6 trombone ensemble by Gordon Cherry, principal trombone of the Vancouver Symphony. Mozart's grand, magnificent, spiritual & final work for 5 tenor trombones and 1 bass trombone is for sale. The entire movement in the original key features not only the solo tenor trombone, but all 6 trombonists. Each part of the ensemble takes its turn in performing the solo trombone & vocal lines as sung by the bass, tenor, alto and soprano. This work is in a comfortable range for all parts (first part goes to one high C) as written for orchestra by Mozart and completed by his assistant Sussmeyer after Mozart's untimely death. As a professional trombonist with a major orchestra for over 26 years, you can be assured of the highest quality with my transcription. My transcription is very tastefully done with detailed editing of phrasing and dynamics. This work of 4 minutes in length can be performed with an ensemble of 6 trombones or a trombone choir of many players. Mozart's composition is beautiful as well as spiritual. It will make a beautiful addition to your concert. The music is brand new. All parts and score are printed on 24 lb. brilliant white paper, however if you wish I can upload the arrangement to you via pdf file format using Adobe's free software, Acrobat Reader. If you don't have it already you can download load it free on Adobe's web site. Printing out this way saves you costs on shipping and valuable time. I accept personal checks, money orders, PayPal and eBay Online Payments as a payment method for this item. To find out more about eBay Online Payments by Billpoint.Please check out my feedback ratings and take a look at my other auctions. You won't be disappointed. Shipping cost by Canada Post is $2.50 air mail to North America, $3.50 internationally. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:42:36 -0500 From: To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Jon Bohls Message-ID: Sorry to myddy the list with this. Jon, could you please call or E-mail me off list? I lost your E-mail address. Thanks Eric Edwards ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:49:32 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Whole horn kicker Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Well, in the past few weeks, I've put my money where my mouth is. I have built just such an instrument and have learned that it is absolutely practical. I am more convinced than ever that a mob mentality has taken compensating euphoniums down a blind alley. Craig, You are to be congratulated for your sense foresight and your bravery. I have no problem taking a torch to a junker trombone. I weigh my odds of having an instrument worth playing, by the end of the weekend. Lately those odds are pretty good. I figure that itāll be cheap entertainment. And I light the torch. Itās very different when I think about messing with an instrument that I love. DanP _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:11:53 -0600 From: "Bill Dinwiddie" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Fw: A Casual Band For Noah (Does he swing?) Message-ID: <001f01c1a8e8$0c9a4380$5a34f90c@attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Galen Zinn posted the following to the list (below). I would like to remind all the members that this "joke" is in fact a fragment from the truly hysterical "The Book of Jobbing" by Steve Hashimoto, (an excellent Chicago bass player and friend). I posted the full text of the "The Book" to the list several months ago, after having asked Steve's permission, which he gladly granted. He also said that he hoped a lot of people would pass the manuscript around on the net, but he hoped that they would retain his name as the author of this great original work and credit him in any future postings of his effort. I suppose the rapidity at which such things are passed from person to person on the Web these days almost assures that such credits will get lost, and I am not criticizing Galen or anyone else. I hope Steve's work does get wide dissemination, but I also hope that the disseminators will take care to credit the true author. I think we may have some new members who did not get my first posting, so I would be willing to post "The Complete Book" again, if there is some interest. Anyone who has ever labored in the "jobbing" or "casuals" or "wedding" business for any length of time will get many major laughs from this inspired work of humor. Thanks, Bill Dinwiddie bill752d@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Galen Zinn" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:59 PM Subject: A Casual Band For Noah (Does he swing?) > I received this from a drummer friend. > Delete now if you have no stomach for jokes... > > And so in the dark of night the Lord awoke Noah, and spoke to him. "Noah, > awake and heed my words!" And Noah, being sore, afraid and disoriented, did > cry out, "Who goeth there?" And the Lord did smite him upside the head, > saying, "It is the Lord of all things, dummy!" And Noah did tremble, saying, > Lord, why hath thou wakened me?" And the Lord did say, "Noah, build me a > Casual Band. "For the earth will be visited by a plague of Brides, followed > by forty days of Trade Shows and forty nights of Awards Banquets." And Noah > did say, "Command me, Lord." And the Lord did say, "First, thou must find me > a Leader." And Noah replied, "But Lord, will I not be thy Leader?" And the > Lord did smite him again, saying, "Fool, thou will be my Contractor. Ask not > why!" And Noah did bow his head, saying, "Yes, my Lord. And what will this > leader play?" And the Lord said, "It mattereth little, whether he play or > not, or whether he be proficient or not. For his job shall primarily be to > talk to the Brides and their Mothers, and to deal with Clients, and to count > off Tempos wrong, and to inquire as to whether Overtime will happen, and to > try to segue tunes that should not be segued. If he playeth any instrument, > thou must always have another player of that instrument on the band, just to > be safe." And Noah did say, "And what else shall this Leader do?" And the > Lord replied, "It shall be his job to spread Bad Information and Confusion > amongst the Sidemen, and to pit them one against the other, and to delay all > payments. "Further shall it be his job, until we can afford a Soundman, to > create Feedback, and to invent new Equalization Curves therefore." And Noah > did shake his head in wonder, saying, "Lord, thy ways are Strange and > mysterious. What more shall I do?" And the Lord said, "Next, find me a > Rhythm Section. First, find me a Drummer. And Three Things above all must > this Drummer possess." And Noah did ask, "What are these Three Things? > Double Bass Drums? An Electronic Kit? Congas?" And the Lord did smite Noah > again, saying "Second-guess me not, my servant. First, this Drummer must > have slightly imperfect time, so that whenever he playeth a Fill (and he > shall play many), he always emergeth at a different place, sometimes early > and sometimes late, but thou may not guess which. And second, he must be > Supremely Discontent, always hoping for the Big Break which will lead to him > playing with Chick Corea or Madonna, so that he despiseth Jobbing. " And > third, he must always be convinced of his Righteousness, in all things, > including Time, Volume, Tempo and Feel, so that he argueth always with the > Bass Player." And Noah did say, "As you command, Lord. And what next?" And > the Lord did say, "Thou art learning, Noah. Next shall be the Bass > Player.... And he shall be Bored. That is all." And Noah did say, "Of > course. And next, my Lord?" "Next shall be the Piano Player. And he shall > play as if he has twenty fingers, and he shall ply Substitute upon > Substitute, until no man may name the Chord, and he will not be helpful. > Furthermore, he shall always be late. And he shall always be trying out New > Gear, of which he has no knowledge." And Noah did wonder aloud, "Lord, Great > is thy Wisdom!" "Next shall be the Guitar Player. And he shall be a Rock > Guitar Player. And he shall be Loud, and he shall sing 'Old Time Rock m > Roll'. Also shall he know not The Page, and so shall rely upon his Ears, > which have been damaged by exposure to High Sound Pressure Levels. For the > Guitarists who Read shall already be playing Shows, and will be making the > Big Shekels. And his tux shall be the Rattiest." And Noah did say, "It shall > be done." And the Lord did say, "Next thou shall need Horns. First shall be > the Saxophones. And they shall be Beboppers. And they shall play their Bird > quotes in every song, yea, even the Celine Dion ballad. And they shall Get > High on every break, and make the Long Faces all night long, but especially > when 'In The Mood' is called. Next shall be the Trumpeters. And they shall > every one attempt to take everything Up an Octave, and fail frequently. And > of Changes they shall know nothing. And finally shall be the Trombone > Player. And many jokes will be made about him, for he will have a Beeper, as > well as a Day Job, and he will be the first to be Cut from the Band. And > Noah, taking many notes, did say, "Mighty is the Lord!" "Next shall be the > String Players. Find me Three Women, and attach Pickups to their Violins > that are more ancient even than Myself, so that their instruments screecheth > and causeth great pain. And their job shall be to dress in Evening Gowns, > and to Fake Parts on all Ballads, and to occasionally Stroll, and to > complain about the Volume, and the Intonation, and to impede the Swing." And > Noah did say, "What else can be left, Lord?" And the Lord did say, "Finally, > find me the Singers. And they shall be Three, one a Male, and two Females. > And the Male shall be a Strutting Peacock, with the Rock 'N Roll Hair, and > he shall never have to wear The Tuxedo, and also shall he play The > Harmonica. And of the Females, one shall be Black and one shall be White. > And the Black one shall ALWAYS sing the Aretha songs, and the Disco. And the > White one shall ALWAYS sing the Power Ballads, and the Country Songs. But > both shall share the Motown Medley, and shall sing Backup for the Male, and > forget the Words, and be Late, and know nothing of Keys or Form. And they > shall leave every gig immediately, having never touched a piece of > Equipment. And they shall be paid many more shekels than the Sidemen. Ask > not why." And Noah did say, "As Thou sayest, my Lord." And the Lord did > command him, "Search high and low for these, as not every musician can > fulfill these requirements. And though we have No Work yet, a Commitment > must be secured from All. And while you're at it, start looking for Subs." > And Noah did say, "Lord, thy will be done." .......................And it > was. > > Galen Zinn > E-mail: zinger@musician.org > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:38:38 -0600 From: "Tom C. Shaddox" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: All Trombone Radio revisited Message-ID: <3C56DE1E.E42D313@fnc.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A couple of months back we discussed the derth of trombone on (classical) radio, and a filght of fancy was floated concerning an "All Trombone Radio" station. Here's an article about a company that's making specialized broadcast easier: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/cybershake020128.html Here's that company's home page: http://www.live365.com/ Now all that remains is to figure out how to pay royalties and to get Yamaha and Guiness signed up as advertisers! I gotta go practice, Tom Shaddox, 9th chair tenor ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:41:23 -0500 From: Bruce Guttman To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Whole horn kicker Message-ID: <200201291241_MC3-EFD8-F4CA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message text written by INTERNET:cnowicke@indiana.edu >What about the kicker Henry Charles Smith designed for Conn? Mind you, I've never clapped eyes on one, but reputed to be thumb operated kicker for the main tuning slide.< I have a Conn that has a kicker, but it only runs on the 3rd valve. I have found it almost useless; it only helps bring the low C into better tune and tends to keep the 3rd valve sharp most of the time. I like the idea of a "slide euphonium" with a 3-4 inch slide for pitch adjustments. Much more efficient than the compensating system. Just my point of view. Bruce Guttman Solo Trombone, Hollis Town Band Section Leader, Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:30:31 -0400 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Whole horn kicker Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020129122638.01b2f130@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:43 AM 01/29/2002 -0500, Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > A few months ago there was a thread that discussed the idea of a whole-horn > kicker slide as an alternative to the costly, heavy, muffling compensation > systems on pro line euphoniums. What about the kicker Henry Charles Smith designed for Conn? Mind you, I've never clapped eyes on one, but reputed to be thumb operated kicker for the main tuning slide. Yes, it is definitely not an original idea. Besson apparently offers a whole horn kick on our of their euphs too, but I haven't seen a good picture. The point I was trying to make is that a whole horn kicker is practical, and seems to be superior to the alternatives (compensation system or 1st&3rd slides) in every important respect. Cheaper, better sound, easier to build, more effective, and easier to play. Yet the industry has never embraced the whole horn kicker. Makes no sense to me. Cheers, Craig ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2284--