TROMBONE-L Digest 2276 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Wick Trombone Technique Book by "Bart Roberts" 2) Re: Wick Trombone Technique Book by Roger Hecht 3) Re: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto by David Buckley 4) Music - Czech Republic by E P LUKAS 5) Denis Wick book by "David Pozos" 6) Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! by Larry White 7) Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! by "Dale J. Cruse" 8) Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! by "Richard Human, Jr." 9) Re: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto by "Mearl Danner" 10) re: Army Blues concert by Neobopr@aol.com 11) Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! by "Paul D. Kemp, Jr." 12) Customisation by "Hamish Dean" 13) Re: Slide FX by "Steve LaRue" 14) Fw: Alan Kaplan by "Steve LaRue" 15) Re: I'll be Bach by JennWhaa@aol.com 16) Re: Alternate to H & B Cleartone mute by "Corliss" 17) 1/21/2002 OTJ Classifieds Update by Chris Waage 18) Re:Customization by "Denver D. Seifried" 19) Online Privacy (re. E-mail Addresses) by Listmonitor Trombone-L 20) RE: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto by Steve Gamble 21) Re: Online Privacy (re. E-mail Addresses) by "Joshua Brown" 22) Re: Fw: Alan Kaplan by Craig Parmerlee 23) Audio GALAXY was Slide FX by BassBonist@aol.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:57:01 -0500 From: "Bart Roberts" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Wick Trombone Technique Book Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear List, I am looking for a copy of The Denis Wick Trombone Technique book. If any of you know where I might get a copy that would be terrific. Thanks Bart Roberts ___________________________________________ Bart Roberts Band/Trombone Graduate Assistant Ball State University Bands http://www.bsu.edu/cfa/music/bands Muncie, Indiana ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:02:41 -0500 From: Roger Hecht To: bmroberts@iquest.net, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Wick Trombone Technique Book Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020120140148.00a561c0@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:57 PM 1/20/2002 -0500, Bart Roberts wrote: Dear List, I am looking for a copy of The Denis Wick Trombone Technique book. If any of you know where I might get a copy that would be terrific. Interlibrary loan if your library doesn't have it and you don't need to own it. If you do need to own it, try the used book sites on the net or try writing Blackwells in Oxford, UK. Roger Hecht ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:13:12 -0500 From: David Buckley To: hpw@mindspring.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto Message-ID: <3C4B24D8.C227728A@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad you enjoyed the Rouse. I heard Joe play it in Utrecht and felt it might be the best piece of music in the trombone literature. Absolutely creative and absolutely engrossing. I also heard his masterclass there and was partyicularly impressed when he said as someone struggled to get a high D " Forget about your face, think about your air and let it happen". Can't say it often works for me but definitely helps at times. Dave. Harry Wootan wrote: > I felt fortunate to attend Joe Alessi's masterclass in Birmingham Thursday > night, followed by his performance of the Rouse Concerto Friday night with > the Alabama Symphony. > > Of course, his playing in both settings was superb. Really a joy to hear. I > left the concert after the Rouse piece. I didn't want to water down the > moment by sitting through "The Planets" afterward. ;-) > > But the one thing that stood out for me in the masterclass was the > *effectiveness* of his teaching. He worked with 7 college students > (individually) in the masterclass. *EVERY* one of the 7 sounded noticeably > better by the end of his/her "lesson". Seven came in and played their > prepared pieces. And seven played their pre-prepared pieces significantly > *better* after the lesson. > > Certainly makes a strong argument for having a good teacher! > > -- Harry ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:56:13 -0600 From: E P LUKAS To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Music - Czech Republic Message-ID: <3C4B2EED.7E0B1D1B@bigfoot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Only recently have I become aware of the performing arts in the Czech Republic. Click on the following link to hear classical and jazz clips. Are there trombone-l list members from the Czech Republic? http://www.czechart.cz/audio.html#jazz ------------------------------------------------- Last night I played a blank tape at full blast. The mime next door went nuts. ERNIE PAUL LUKAS TROMBONIST, PUBLICIST BARTLETT COMMUNITY CONCERT BAND MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE USA ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:27:42 -0600 From: "David Pozos" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Denis Wick book Message-ID: <000501c1a20a$0f5e5e60$4bc2180a@xal.megared.net.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just checked and Barnes and Noble have it in stock right now. www.bn.com David Pozos Primer Tromb—n Orquesta Sinf—nica de Xalapa www.sinfonicadexalapa.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:44:58 -0800 From: Larry White To: bearwoodson@home.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! Message-ID: <3C4B567A.81A0A9E7@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I personally have a problem with people disclosing other people's addresses in this way here. Prior to doing so the person doing the 'advertising of the address' should have permission to do so. If I know the address of the individual that someone is tring to contact, I will contact that individual and tell them that so and so wishes to contact you for such and such a reason. Joe Blow's address is ..... I then leave it up to the person to contact Joe Blow. There is certainly, in my estimation, a big difference between a website address, and a personal e-mail address of a person like Joe Alessi or even our own Doug Yeo, who I must admit is very considerate in replying to many of our (especially mine) unsolicited e-mails. The above are just my humble thoughts for what they are worth, and are not aimed at anybody specifically for any reason. It is that far too often I have seen people say, Oh, I know Joe Alessi, his address is such and such, and really they don't know him, they know his address, and they have received it from somebody who might have received form somebodsy else, etc, etc. If Joe wishes to be contacted by John Q Public, he will advertise his name and address as such. L J White Bear Woodson wrote: > Hello, Everyone. > > As you may know, I am not a brass player, but instead > am a composer. I am trying to write a series of sonatas > and concertos for each orchestral instrument, and already > have several. I am also therefore on over 25 Instrument > Lists, so I only get the Daily Digest Version of each, so > I know that a lot of you have answered my question > directly, but I won't get the Daily Digest until daytime. > It's now late at night (in fact almost sunrise) on Sunday > January 20, 2002. > > I wish to thank each of you for your thoughtful > replies! I'm not sure if this is his correct E-Mail Address: > > "Prof. Joseph Alessi" > > But once I realized that he teaches at Juilliard, I just > E-Mailed Dr. Raymond Mase, who likes my Trumpet > Sonata. He will likely have Professor Alessi's E-Mail > Address, whether the above one is correct, or not. I > also sent an E-Mail to that address, just in case it is > correct. (Even if it is correct, he may not check it > often, and may use another one, more often.) > > Anyway, my Extreme Thanks to all of you for your > kindness! > > I gotta get back to work. I'm under siege from an > all-out Quack Attack, because I'm writing Bassoon > Music this week! (It's actually the Paranoids dressed > up in Duck Suits! I can tell! They're always out to > GET me!) > > Bear Woodson > Composer, Tucson, Arizona, USA ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:29:02 -0500 From: "Dale J. Cruse" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! Message-ID: <001601c1a212$a0aae570$70d92444@union1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "If Joe wishes to be contacted by John Q Public, he will advertise his name and address as such." But don't you understand that he has done exactly that by putting his email address on his NY Philharmonic bio page? He could have chosen not to. NY Phil. bass trombonist David Finlayson doesn't have his email address on his bio page. Mr. Alessi could have left it off of his. > "I personally have a problem with people disclosing other people's addresses in this way here. Prior to doing so the person doing the 'advertising of the address' should have permission to do so." Sorry, but this argument doesn't hold up. Are you saying that it's okay for Mr. Alessi's email address to be posted on his NY Phil bio page for the ENTIRE WORLD to see but NOT okay to post to the Trombone-L list? Publishing your email address on the web is akin to publishing your phone number in the phone book. If you do it, people are going to contact you, like it or not. If you don't want people to contact you, then don't publish your contact info. I also have a HUGE problem with the idea that musicians should not want to hear from "the less than desirable," as a previous post said. What does "less than desirable" mean? Some kid who's been playing the trombone for two weeks and barely knows which end of the horn to blow in? If a kid like that wants to take the time and effort to contact a professional player with questions, praise, whatever, don't we as professionals and keepers of the trombone flame owe it to that person to respond? If not, who will? If a kid like that sends a message and receives no response, what have we as a community told him by that lack of reply? That deafening silence says, "You said something but we're too good or too cool to care." If the kid then loses interest and quits playing the horn because of a lack of support from professional players of the instrument, then I believe we've failed not only that young player, but also ourselves. Dale J. Cruse dale@dalecruse.com http://www.dalecruse.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry White" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! > I personally have a problem with people disclosing other people's > addresses in this way here. > Prior to doing so the person doing the 'advertising of the address' > should have permission to do so. > If I know the address of the individual that someone is tring to > contact, I will contact that individual and tell them that so and so > wishes to contact you for such and such a reason. Joe Blow's address is > ..... I then leave it up to the person to contact Joe Blow. > There is certainly, in my estimation, a big difference between a website > address, and a personal e-mail address of a person like Joe Alessi or > even our own Doug Yeo, who I must admit is very considerate in replying > to many of our (especially mine) unsolicited e-mails. > The above are just my humble thoughts for what they are worth, and are > not aimed at anybody specifically for any reason. > It is that far too often I have seen people say, Oh, I know Joe Alessi, > his address is such and such, and really they don't know him, they know > his address, and they have received it from somebody who might have > received form somebodsy else, etc, etc. > If Joe wishes to be contacted by John Q Public, he will advertise his > name and address as such. > > L J White > > > Bear Woodson wrote: > > > Hello, Everyone. > > > > As you may know, I am not a brass player, but instead > > am a composer. I am trying to write a series of sonatas > > and concertos for each orchestral instrument, and already > > have several. I am also therefore on over 25 Instrument > > Lists, so I only get the Daily Digest Version of each, so > > I know that a lot of you have answered my question > > directly, but I won't get the Daily Digest until daytime. > > It's now late at night (in fact almost sunrise) on Sunday > > January 20, 2002. > > > > I wish to thank each of you for your thoughtful > > replies! I'm not sure if this is his correct E-Mail Address: > > > > "Prof. Joseph Alessi" > > > > But once I realized that he teaches at Juilliard, I just > > E-Mailed Dr. Raymond Mase, who likes my Trumpet > > Sonata. He will likely have Professor Alessi's E-Mail > > Address, whether the above one is correct, or not. I > > also sent an E-Mail to that address, just in case it is > > correct. (Even if it is correct, he may not check it > > often, and may use another one, more often.) > > > > Anyway, my Extreme Thanks to all of you for your > > kindness! > > > > I gotta get back to work. I'm under siege from an > > all-out Quack Attack, because I'm writing Bassoon > > Music this week! (It's actually the Paranoids dressed > > up in Duck Suits! I can tell! They're always out to > > GET me!) > > > > Bear Woodson > > Composer, Tucson, Arizona, USA ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:05:14 -0600 From: "Richard Human, Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 1/20/02 6:29 PM, Dale J. Cruse at dale@dalecruse.com scrambled the quantum eggs of the ever-expanding universe by writing: >> "I personally have a problem with people disclosing other people's addresses > in this way here. Prior to doing so the person doing the 'advertising of the > address' should have permission to do so." > Sorry, but this argument doesn't hold up. Are you saying that it's okay for > Mr. > Alessi's email address to be posted on his NY Phil bio page for the ENTIRE > WORLD > to see but NOT okay to post to the Trombone-L list? Publishing your email > address on the web is akin to publishing your phone number in the phone book. > If > you do it, people are going to contact you, like it or not. If you don't want > people to contact you, then don't publish your contact info. First of all, it was not Mr. Alessi's office email address which was presented here, it was his personal one. Many of us already knew it, but did not disclose it because it is not our place to do so. Does Mr. Alessi want his personal email address presented here? I don't know. Is it anyone's place to decide that, beside him? Nope. > I also have a HUGE problem with the idea that musicians should not want to > hear > from "the less than desirable," as a previous post said. What does "less than > desirable" mean? Some kid who's been playing the trombone for two weeks and > barely knows which end of the horn to blow in? If a kid like that wants to > take > the time and effort to contact a professional player with questions, praise, > whatever, don't we as professionals and keepers of the trombone flame owe it > to > that person to respond? Absolutely not. No one in the world "owes" anything to anyone. It seems that people want to expend as little effort as possible to get what they want. Sending an email to someone you don't know, asking them a question about something you have (most likely) not spent any time investigating on your own is, well, lazy as lazy gets. >If not, who will? 1. A Band Director - choose one. If they don't know they know who does 2. A Choral Director - same. 3. A Local music store owner/teacher - same. 4. Local musicians - same. 5. A musician in a neighboring town - same. 6. A University faculty member in their town/state - same. 7. A fellow student - maybe same. Mr. Cruse seems to espouse a severe lack of intellectual curiosity. I did not say curiosity, but intellectual curiosity. If you spend your life asking other people to answer your questions you own nothing of your intellect - it is full of other peoples' ideas. Don't go simpering to the oracle everytime you can't tie your show...perhaps it's time to pay attention, or *heaven forbid* actually learn something on your own. > If a kid like that sends a message > and > receives no response, what have we as a community told him by that lack of > reply? 1. He should ask better questions. 2. That the world is not here to give them anything 3. That perhaps Mr. Alessi is to busy learning to play his trombone to answer 80 emails a day asking how to play high, fast and loud. 4. That perhaps they should gain an ounce of gumption and get away from the keyboard and into the practice room. You choose. > That deafening silence says, "You said something but we're too good or > too cool to care." If the kid then loses interest and quits playing the horn > because of a lack of support from professional players of the instrument, then > I > believe we've failed not only that young player, but also ourselves. If they lose interest because they did not get an email returned then they did not have much of an interest to begin with. My .02. Richard ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:15:29 -0800 From: "Mearl Danner" To: Subject: Re: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto Message-ID: <009201c1a23a$a55af8d0$6410a8c0@mearl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was fortunate enough to be able to attend the same class and concert. Another thing that impressed me were the communication skills exhibited by Mr. Alessi as he explained the piece to the audience. Very impressive! A quote from a friend (an oboist - we don't know him Harry) - "The end must be near. A standing ovation for a trombone piece - and modern music at that." Seriously, the Rouse concerto is a wonderful piece of music. Not just an exhibit of virtuosity for the soloist, but a great showpiece for the orchestra. I stayed for "The Planets". It was all downhill after Mr. Alessi left the stage. Of course, I might be a bit biased. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Wootan" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:06 PM Subject: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto > I felt fortunate to attend Joe Alessi's masterclass in Birmingham Thursday > night, followed by his performance of the Rouse Concerto Friday night with > the Alabama Symphony. > > Of course, his playing in both settings was superb. Really a joy to hear. I > left the concert after the Rouse piece. I didn't want to water down the > moment by sitting through "The Planets" afterward. ;-) > > But the one thing that stood out for me in the masterclass was the > *effectiveness* of his teaching. He worked with 7 college students > (individually) in the masterclass. *EVERY* one of the 7 sounded noticeably > better by the end of his/her "lesson". Seven came in and played their > prepared pieces. And seven played their pre-prepared pieces significantly > *better* after the lesson. > > Certainly makes a strong argument for having a good teacher! > > -- Harry > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:23:14 EST From: Neobopr@aol.com To: TboneCentral@yahoogroups.com, jjlist@yahoogroups.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: re: Army Blues concert Message-ID: <26.21db90d4.297cf1b2@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unfortunately, the sound slot in the special bands seems to have less consistency than the performance positions. Some of the sound guys in town are great, others aren't. In the ceremonial groups you don't have one sound guy for each performing unit like we do since we are a touring band. Consequently, the sound people probably have a number of other hats that they wear with live sound reinforcement being just one. This frustrates the musicians as well. Hope the perspective helps. Jeff Adams Yamaha Artist/Clinician ALL ON ONE CD-R in 192k MP3 format!--buy Rochut Vol. #1 and Jeff Adams-2000, $20 includes shipping. Add $5 for international shipping. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:11:21 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp, Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! Message-ID: <003601c1a242$732cc660$9e5b4d0c@trbnplyr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, We've gotten extremely ugly here about something that really isn't that big of a deal. In many cases (but not all). a stupid question is one that is not asked. Secondly, I have found that major artists such as Joe Alessi are only too happy to attempt to help someone who needs it, but let's face it: he's one busy fellow. He obviously can't respond to everyone who writes to him. People who are TRULY at the top of their profession didn't get there by snubbing folks on the way up. I'll give you a case in point. I encouraged my best bass trombone student to e-mail Charlie Vernon and ask him if he would happen to have a Bach bass trombone for sale. He did, and Charlie wrote him back. Now this kid is a major Charlie fan to begin with, but how do you think it made this kid feel that Charlie would take a few minutes and write this kid back? To put it mildly, it made his whole month, even though Charlie didn't have a horn for sale. Just the fact that he took a few minutes to write a kid back meant the world to this kid. I doubt seriously if my student would have given up playing the trombone if he hadn't answered him, but nonetheless, I've found that most people are only too glad to help out others. If I didn't want people to contact me, then I wouldn't have put an e-mail link on my web site---plain and simple. The only time that I had something with a web site abused was when I had it hosted by Homestead.com and I got some of the most foul stuff on that guestbook that I eventually took the site down and bought my own domain. I encourage less experienced people to ask questions--there are lots of folks out there who want to know more, and if I can help, I will. If I can't I try to direct them to someone who CAN help them. Most beginners aren't even going to know what to ask let alone ask a stupid question. Besides, on the trombone-L, there are many people at many differing ability levels, and isn't that why we have this forum to begin with? To learn from each other? I don't get the list in digest form--and I delete 99.5% of the messages that enter my mailbox. We've allowed this list to be a sounding board for trombone players of all levels, and if anyone abuses that, then the list monitor will take care of it. It just so happens that a composer in residence asked for Joe's address---not some green, wet-behind-the ears kid. Who knows, maybe he wants to write a piece for Joe, but nevertheless, there was no reason for anyone on the list to get ugly about it. Paul D. Kemp Jr. Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Human, Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Joe Alessi: My Extreme Thanks! > on 1/20/02 6:29 PM, Dale J. Cruse at dale@dalecruse.com scrambled the > quantum eggs of the ever-expanding universe by writing: > >> "I personally have a problem with people disclosing other people's addresses > > in this way here. Prior to doing so the person doing the 'advertising of the > > address' should have permission to do so." > > Sorry, but this argument doesn't hold up. Are you saying that it's okay for > > Mr. > > Alessi's email address to be posted on his NY Phil bio page for the ENTIRE > > WORLD > > to see but NOT okay to post to the Trombone-L list? Publishing your email > > address on the web is akin to publishing your phone number in the phone book. > > If > > you do it, people are going to contact you, like it or not. If you don't want > > people to contact you, then don't publish your contact info. > > First of all, it was not Mr. Alessi's office email address which was > presented here, it was his personal one. Many of us already knew it, but > did not disclose it because it is not our place to do so. Does Mr. Alessi > want his personal email address presented here? I don't know. Is it > anyone's place to decide that, beside him? Nope. > > > I also have a HUGE problem with the idea that musicians should not want to > > hear > > from "the less than desirable," as a previous post said. What does "less than > > desirable" mean? Some kid who's been playing the trombone for two weeks and > > barely knows which end of the horn to blow in? If a kid like that wants to > > take > > the time and effort to contact a professional player with questions, praise, > > whatever, don't we as professionals and keepers of the trombone flame owe it > > to > > that person to respond? > > Absolutely not. No one in the world "owes" anything to anyone. It seems > that people want to expend as little effort as possible to get what they > want. Sending an email to someone you don't know, asking them a question > about something you have (most likely) not spent any time investigating on > your own is, well, lazy as lazy gets. > > >If not, who will? > > 1. A Band Director - choose one. If they don't know they know who does > 2. A Choral Director - same. > 3. A Local music store owner/teacher - same. > 4. Local musicians - same. > 5. A musician in a neighboring town - same. > 6. A University faculty member in their town/state - same. > 7. A fellow student - maybe same. > > Mr. Cruse seems to espouse a severe lack of intellectual curiosity. I did > not say curiosity, but intellectual curiosity. If you spend your life > asking other people to answer your questions you own nothing of your > intellect - it is full of other peoples' ideas. > > Don't go simpering to the oracle everytime you can't tie your show...perhaps > it's time to pay attention, or *heaven forbid* actually learn something on > your own. > > > If a kid like that sends a message > > and > > receives no response, what have we as a community told him by that lack of > > reply? > > 1. He should ask better questions. > 2. That the world is not here to give them anything > 3. That perhaps Mr. Alessi is to busy learning to play his trombone to > answer 80 emails a day asking how to play high, fast and loud. > 4. That perhaps they should gain an ounce of gumption and get away from the > keyboard and into the practice room. > > You choose. > > > That deafening silence says, "You said something but we're too good or > > too cool to care." If the kid then loses interest and quits playing the horn > > because of a lack of support from professional players of the instrument, then > > I > > believe we've failed not only that young player, but also ourselves. > > If they lose interest because they did not get an email returned then they > did not have much of an interest to begin with. > > My .02. > > Richard > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:50:31 +1300 From: "Hamish Dean" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Customisation Message-ID: <000501c1a247$ec0346e0$c7414fcb@slidemo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm thinking of converting a bulk standard bach 50B bass bone into a double valve open wrap beast, Probably dependant configuration as I'm assuming that would be cheaper. Any suggestions on the best place to get this type of work done and a ballpark $$. Has anyone done this sort of customisation and what are your experiences?? thanks in advance Hamish ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:18:09 -0800 From: "Steve LaRue" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Slide FX Message-ID: <014101c1a24b$c8821620$e82a9242@endxokep> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I played with John yesterday and he said he thought someone had put their cd on AudioGalexy. That would make it free to download. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Bigelow To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: Slide FX > Slide f/x, led by John Campanella, was the Kai Winding competition > winner at the ITF in Las Vegas a few years ago. All original arrangements > by John and others, mostly for 5 parts, some 6, plus rhythm. All top players > from the southern California area. > > Ralph Bigelow > BonesWest > > 01/17/2002 7:00:24 PM, "Paul D. Kemp, Jr." wrote: > > >Dear listers: > >I just talked to my high school band director this evening, and he > mentioned > >hearing a 5-trombone & rhythm group at the IJAE convention called > SlideFX. > >He said that was the finest thing at the convention, and coming from him, > >that means they were very fine. Has anyone heard of this group? > > > >Paul D. Kemp Jr. > >Chattanooga Symphony > >www.trbnplyr.com > > > > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:31:53 -0800 From: "Steve LaRue" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Fw: Alan Kaplan Message-ID: <01fd01c1a24d$b3371e80$e82a9242@endxokep> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve LaRue To: ; Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Alan Kaplan > I was in luck yesterday when I ran into Alan at the NAMM convention in > Anaheim. He said he had a new cd and I purchased it. What a wonderful > performance. This cd is a MUST for everyone. > > All of the selections are ballads ,arranged for trombone and orchestra. I > am at a loss for words to describe how truly beautiful this cd is. > > For the younger folks this cd is a master class in playing ballads. Alan's > effortless playing and beautiful phrasing is a real lesson in how it's done. > For us more mature folks, take a glass of wine, turn the lights low and just > let some of the most wonderful playing you have ever heard surround you. > > Enjoy, Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: alex iles > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:57 AM > Subject: Alan Kaplan > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > I would like to give an unsolicited plug for a new CD by my friend and > > colleague, Alan Kaplan. It is called "Lonely Town". It is a collection > > of great standard ballads for trombone and orchestra, magnificently > > arranged by Russ Garcia, Tom Ranier, Joe Curiale, Bill Cunliffe, Bob > > Alcivar and Steve Bernstein. Alan pays musical tribute to many of the > > trombonists whose recordings have influenced him over the > > years...including Murray McEachern, Joe Howard, Urbie Green, Lloyd > > Ulyate, Dick Nash and Buddy Morrow. > > > > There are also two "bonus tracks" featuring Alan overdubbing multiple > > tenor and bass trombone parts ["Try to Remember", Hoyt Bohannon's > > re-orchestrated-for-bones version of Gene Puerlings arrangement, and Bob > > Alcivar's beautiful arrangement of "Don't Like Goodbyes"] . > > > > This lush and elegant recording is an excellent example of why Alan is > > one of the most sought-after trombonists on the Hollywood studio scene > > today. > > > > Alan is selling this recording himself. For purchasing info go to... > > > > www.alankaplan.org > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Alex > > > > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 03:28:28 EST From: JennWhaa@aol.com To: Subject: Re: I'll be Bach Message-ID: <3b.20d039e3.297d2b2c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had heard that one of the trombonists in Chicago was the first to pick the Suites up. As it was told to me, Rostropovich always plays the Fifth Suite Sarabande as an encore. I guess, once when he came into town and played with the orchestra, the following day he started making his students play the Sarabande in their lessons. I like the story. It could have happened that way. I was just curious.... Any thoughts? ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:33:19 -0600 From: "Corliss" To: "Corliss" , Subject: Re: Alternate to H & B Cleartone mute Message-ID: <003901c1a256$47d4cc60$39cb5340@richard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C1A223.FD0801C0" What I intended to say here is that I have a Humes and Berg Cleartone mute, and I'm wondering if someone could recommend a similar mute. ----- Original Message ----- From: Corliss To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: Alternate to H & B Cleartone mute I have a Humes and Berg mute that I like and use regularly. I don't know of any mute that is similar to this one.ÊIs thereÊa similar mute that anyone would like to recommend? Richard Corliss ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:36:11 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L , Brass@lists.fsu.edu Subject: 1/21/2002 OTJ Classifieds Update Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds (http://www.trombone.org/classifieds) have been updated as of 7:35 AM on January 21, 2001 with thirty-five new ads. - - - - - Thank you for using the OTJ Classifieds! - - - - - OTJ Instrument Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/instruments.asp OTJ Accessory Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/accessories.asp OTJ Music Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/music.asp OTJ Classifieds Frequently Asked Questions http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp To place an ad: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/adform.asp OTJ Gift Shoppe: http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=trombones If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris@trombone.org. Chris -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage, Associate Webmaster chris@trombone.org http://www.trombone.org - A web site for trombonists ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:05:51 -0500 From: "Denver D. Seifried" To: "Trombone - List" Subject: Re:Customization Message-ID: <002d01c1a284$bc7bd760$93435acf@dseifried> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hamish, I would highly recommend contacting list member Gary Greenhoe, who happens to make some very fine aftermarket valves and open wrap valve sections for the Bach bass trombone. You can get the pricing from his web site www. greenhoe.com. He can also recommend repairpersons, who can make the installation for you, depending on where you live. No matter what type of valves you choose, you will have about $2200+ in the total job. I know you will find some other happy Greenhoe customers, like Paul Kemp, who will also make some recommendations to you. I am going this same route, in the future with my Bach 50B3. Denny Seifried Bass Trombone-Springfield(OH) Symphony & Dayton Jazz Orchestra Adjunct Trombone-Wittenberg Univ. Dept. of Music ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:30:31 -0600 From: Listmonitor Trombone-L To: Trombone-L Subject: Online Privacy (re. E-mail Addresses) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Online privacy is a major issue at this point, and unfortunately, many people dismiss it as a trivial issue. While most people are cautious with regard to important personal information such as credit card, bank account and social security numbers, most people view e-mail addresses as "fair game." E-mail has become as necessary as a telephone for most individuals, especially in the fields of business and education. Another necessity has become controlled access. Over the past several years, I have assisted several list members who faced either malicious attacks via e-mail or were dealing with attempted online personality theft. Both of these issues are quite serious, as they can impair an individual's ability to do business, no matter what the chosen profession. To most professionals, the most valuable asset is time. To waste that time having to sort through hundreds of e-mails while searching for those of true import is something to be avoided. The trombone-l has a large number of high-profile "lurkers" who have subscribed but do not post so as to avoid having their personal e-mail address deluged with unsolicited messages. These addresses (as are all addresses of trombone-l subscribers) are held in the strictest of confidence. Personal privacy has become one of the most valued commodities, and with the "Information Age", it has become far too easy to locate personal, highly sensitive information about nearly anyone. Just as one would not wish to see his or her telephone number displayed on nationwide TV, the ability to keep an e-mail address for private business use is essential. If someone has chosen not to make their e-mail address public knowledge, it would be (I am sure) greatly appreciated if this wish were respected. LM -- --------------------------------------- trombone-l digest archives and useful trombone-l information are available at http://www.trombone.org/trombone-l ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:45:05 -0700 From: Steve Gamble To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto Message-ID: <01C1A24F.8BF83460.sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I was studying with Jay Friedman way back when, he went on and on (and on) about "it's the air" in the upper register. He would talk about former students who would come back for a visit and tell him, "you were right about the air." I guess I wasn't using enough air in the upper register. If I ever go back for a visit, I'll have to tell him he was right. Steve Gamble Librarian Tucson Symphony Orchestra 2175 N. 6th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85705 (520) 792-9155 x118 (520) 792-9314 fax sgamble@tucsonsymphony.org -----Original Message----- From: David Buckley [SMTP:davebuckley@sympatico.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 1:13 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Re: Alessi Masterclass; Rouse Concerto Glad you enjoyed the Rouse. I heard Joe play it in Utrecht and felt it might be the best piece of music in the trombone literature. Absolutely creative and absolutely engrossing. I also heard his masterclass there and was partyicularly impressed when he said as someone struggled to get a high D " Forget about your face, think about your air and let it happen". Can't say it often works for me but definitely helps at times. Dave. Harry Wootan wrote: > I felt fortunate to attend Joe Alessi's masterclass in Birmingham Thursday > night, followed by his performance of the Rouse Concerto Friday night with > the Alabama Symphony. > > Of course, his playing in both settings was superb. Really a joy to hear. I > left the concert after the Rouse piece. I didn't want to water down the > moment by sitting through "The Planets" afterward. ;-) > > But the one thing that stood out for me in the masterclass was the > *effectiveness* of his teaching. He worked with 7 college students > (individually) in the masterclass. *EVERY* one of the 7 sounded noticeably > better by the end of his/her "lesson". Seven came in and played their > prepared pieces. And seven played their pre-prepared pieces significantly > *better* after the lesson. > > Certainly makes a strong argument for having a good teacher! > > -- Harry ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:28:01 -0600 From: "Joshua Brown" To: "Trombone L" Subject: Re: Online Privacy (re. E-mail Addresses) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1A25D.EBE20140" Hi list, I don't respond to many posts, although I read them all and enjoy the different points of view. On this subject, I have to agree with those members that advocate privacy. If Joe Alessi wanted his private email to be made available to the public, he would have included it on Slide Area. I can not seem to find it anywhere on his site. He did include a guestbook and forum, however, and probably reads these regularly. In addition to maintaining his privacy, thereÊmay beÊanother reason whyÊMr. Alessi does notÊgive outÊhis information over the internet -- heÊprobablyÊwould notÊhave the time to answer the numerous emails he wouldÊreceive. If and when he did not respond to an email, the sender might feel slighted or upset that he or sheÊwas not issued a response. Joe Alessi is the ITA Award winner for 2002.ÊÊThe ITAÊwanted to make it possible for trombonists around the world to congratulate him on this high honor using the ITA website. We decided not to include his email address, simply because it is not our place to publish that information. Instead, I created a form where users can supply information about themselves and offer congratulations to Mr. Alessi. Even though a vast majority of users posted heartfelt congrats, I did receive a number of "prank" messages that I would have been embarrassed for Mr. Alessi to have received. My 2 cents... Joshua Brown http://www.ita-web.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Listmonitor Trombone-L Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:32 AM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Online Privacy (re. E-mail Addresses) Online privacy is a major issue at this point, and unfortunately, many people dismiss it as a trivial issue. While most people are cautious with regard to important personal information such as credit card, bank account and social security numbers, most people view e-mail addresses as "fair game." E-mail has become as necessary as a telephone for most individuals, especially in the fields of business and education. Another necessity has become controlled access. Over the past several years, I have assisted several list members who faced either malicious attacks via e-mail or were dealing with attempted online personality theft. Both of these issues are quite serious, as they can impair an individual's ability to do business, no matter what the chosen profession. To most professionals, the most valuable asset is time. To waste that time having to sort through hundreds of e-mails while searching for those of true import is something to be avoided. The trombone-l has a large number of high-profile "lurkers" who have subscribed but do not post so as to avoid having their personal e-mail address deluged with unsolicited messages. These addresses (as are all addresses of trombone-l subscribers) are held in the strictest of confidence. Personal privacy has become one of the most valued commodities, and with the "Information Age", it has become far too easy to locate personal, highly sensitive information about nearly anyone. Just as one would not wish to see his or her telephone number displayed on nationwide TV, the ability to keep an e-mail address for private business use is essential. If someone has chosen not to make their e-mail address public knowledge, it would be (I am sure) greatly appreciated if this wish were respected. LM -- --------------------------------------- trombone-l digest archives and useful trombone-l information are available at http://www.trombone.org/trombone-l Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:51:03 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Alan Kaplan Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020121104015.01ef2c68@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed These studio guys have such amazing versatility, it is a real inspiration. Alan also plays a lot of bass trombone. It is really hard to imagine a player being so accomplished on both instruments. By the way, Alan also offers a bass trombone mouthpiece that I think is just terrific for a player who doubles a lot. Compared to the other bass trombone mouthpieces I have used, this one gives much more security in the upper register. Compared to a S59 or something like that, the pedal register is not quite as booming. However, I find the pedals just as accessible because the rim diameter is still ample. This is my favorite bass mouthpiece for playing anything on the commercial side. See http://www.parke.net/personal/kaplan.htm At 11:31 PM 1/20/2002 -0800, Steve LaRue wrote: > I was in luck yesterday when I ran into Alan at the NAMM convention in > Anaheim. He said he had a new cd and I purchased it. What a wonderful > performance. This cd is a MUST for everyone. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:38:59 EST From: BassBonist@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Cc: lash@empirenet.com Subject: Audio GALAXY was Slide FX Message-ID: <136.7a82628.297dac33@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_136.7a82628.297dac33_boundary" lash@empirenet.com writes: << I played with John yesterday and he said he thought someone had put their cd on AudioGalexy. ÊThat would make it free to download.>> Amazing what a difference one letter can make: It's AudioGALAXY, folks. The other one that was listed takes you to a porn site! MV ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2276--