TROMBONE-L Digest 2267 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Slight vent session... by "Daniel Pliskin" 2) Re: Glenn Miller's bone by Gary Sloane 3) Question about a horn by "Paul D. Kemp, Jr." 4) Re: Slight vent session... by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 5) Bush & books (political reflex jab) by Earl Needham 6) Re: Wowsers! by "Adrian Drover" 7) Re: Slight vent session... by Atlbrvsnt@aol.com 8) Re: Glenn Miller's bone by emrose79@pacbell.net 9) Re: Professiors Vent Sess. by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 10) Who's the Boss? by Chris Waage 11) Re: Bush & books (political reflex jab) by Earl Needham 12) Re: Question about a horn by "Roger Carmichael" 13) Re: Wowsers! by "Adrian Drover" 14) shank by "Tom Smith" 15) Re: Wowsers!New use for Bolero by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 16) Re: Wowsers! by "Gary D. Maxwell" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:59:02 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Slight vent session... Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This seems to be one of those threads where weāre going to have to ultimately agree to disagree. Thatās a good thing. If we all felt the same about everything, weād have nothing to talk about. DanP _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:23:13 -0800 From: Gary Sloane To: Chris Waage Cc: me@bobbeecher.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Glenn Miller's bone Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Someone was selling a pre-WWII Silvertone recently, claiming it was a "Glenn Miller Model", but unable to substantiate the claim. I had always heard, though I can't authenticate it, that he and his band were supplied with early Bach 6's. Historical aside: My dad was stationed at Yale for as an Army Air Corp cadet, when both Glenn Miller and Ray MacKinley and their bands were there. Two top bands? This was what they used to call a Class Operation. MacKinley would play Celery Stalks Along the Highway every evening as the cadets went to mess, and he'd call out the "menu" so that they'd know what was coming. ("We gotta Salisbury steak, we gotta mashed potatoes...") Not much time to eat; "take all you want but want all you take" policy; possibly passive-aggressive wives (that's right: my mom) staffing the steam tables, ready to load unsuspecting cadets' trays up with, what? too much fried liver and canned spinach? Capt. Miller, on the other hand, outraged local residents' sense of propriety by marching energetically through the streets of New Haven to the Saint Louis Blues March, jazzed up American Patrol, etc....behavior thought to be unbefitting Our National Symbols, blah, blah... but the cadets liked it. New Haven is different now, what with big demographic changes, women students at Yale, William F. Buckley having written a book as an undergraduate, and George W. Bush claiming to have read one. Wright-Patterson has a web site for Glenn Miller: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/afp/afp1297.htm No mention of the instrument specifics is made. I saw it years ago in a case at the Wright-Patterson AFB Museum but didn't take notice at the time...... What make and model did Glenn play? Anyone know? Thanks! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Beecher Music Editor for Film & Television email: me@BobBeecher.com Captain, USAF Aux, Civil Air Patrol http://BobBeecher.com VNY Sr Sqdn 128 / Yosemite 471 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage, Associate Webmaster chris@trombone.org http://www.trombone.org - A web site for trombonists -- Gary Sloane "A gentleman should play the flute sloane@batnet.com but not too well." --Aristotle ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:29:12 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp, Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Question about a horn Message-ID: <002201c19ae7$15a014a0$905a4d0c@trbnplyr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listers, My daughter goes to school with a youngster who has an old Conn. It says C.G.Conn Ltd. on the bell, and the serial # on the slide is 419701. The case is original, and it's shaped like the old 88H cases, except that it is red. Could someone tell me how old this horn is, and what model it is? Paul D. Kemp Jr. Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:55:37 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Slight vent session... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ultimately agree to dissagree. We have to do that so people who are the recipients of the discussion points can make their own determinations to fit their own circumstances. beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:25:39 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Bush & books (political reflex jab) Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020111162424.00a98d58@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:23 AM 1/11/2002 -0800, Gary Sloane wrote: New Haven is different now, what with big demographic changes, women students at Yale, William F. Buckley having written a book as an undergraduate, and George W. Bush claiming to have read one. He must have read more than one -- just check out his degrees and business experience. The beat the "here" Daschle's credentials to pieces... Earl ********************************************************* Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:needhame@yucca.net Clovis, New Mexico KD5XB-2>APU24L,WA5IHL-11,K5BEN-15,WA5IHL-7,W5SF-1,K5CQH-15,WB5EKP-1*,TRACE7- 1:=3425.84N/10313.56W-[DM84] Pet peeve #1: You look at a "SITE" with your "SIGHT". Pet peeve #2: "Congratulations" does NOT have a "d" in it. Old pet peeve: People who get themselves on a mailing list and then can't figure out how to get OFF the list, then repeatedly sending "unsubscribe" or "remove" as one-word messages to the list. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:52:08 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: "Earl Needham" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Wowsers! Message-ID: <007201c18e04$00840530$848168d5@homedmpbgvaomg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Earl Needham" > At 10:51 PM 12/24/2001 -0600, Richard Johnson wrote: > >Before I sit down to eat a hearty meal tomorrow of fried turkey (that's how > >we do it here in Louisiana!), dressing cranberry sauce, chocolate-pecan pie, > >coconut pound cake, apple pie and the other assorted holiday dishes, > > Where you at? Can I make it from New Mexico and be back in time > for work at 6 AM Friday??? I didn't know the folks from Louisiana were into health food. Hey, I can't talk. I found room for some Guinness Christmas pudding after I'd stuffed my face with all the other goodies on the table. Adrian ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:53:13 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Slight vent session... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b2.4ca5eaf.2970d4e9_boundary" In a message dated 1/11/2002 9:04:35 AM Central Standard Time, BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com writes: I argued exactly this in an honors intro to philosophy last semester, basically trying to use it to disprove that a computer explains how human minds work. The prof. said he admired my originality and effort, but didn't find it all that convincing. He did give me a 90. Trombone content-I just got back from pep band rehearsal and my chops are worn out after that plus 2 hours of practice. -Tommy Cox University of Alabama Humans are more adept than computers says Adrian. Facitiously Computers are Digital and Humans are Analog. Humans do not have to follow the program. ( There are analog computers too but they are not longer the latest rage.) beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:54:40 -0800 From: emrose79@pacbell.net To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Glenn Miller's bone Message-ID: <3C3F7B40.B457C59D@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Gary Sloane wrote: > > > > MacKinley would play Celery Stalks Along the Highway > Just a quick question........was the name of the song "Celery Stalks at Midnight"? and orginaly done by Will Bradley's band? Ed ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:02:53 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Professiors Vent Sess. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad you got the 90 in the course. Scientific Method is a handy tool. That is what it is....a tool. And it serves us well. Then it has limits. Otherwise why would they put an analog slide on the Trombone instead of Digitaly Operated Valves. Gotta be something about not being locked into the program ..... beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:11:35 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Who's the Boss? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Ron- This sounds like Pastor's kind of story ;-) Chris Who's the Boss? A husband is advised by a psychiatrist to assert himself. "You don't have to let your wife henpeck you. Go home and show her you are the boss." Of course, the husband takes the doctor's advice. He rushes home, slams the door, shakes his fist in his wife's face, and growls, "From now on, you're taking orders from me. I want my supper right now, and when you get it on the table, go upstairs, and lay out my best clothes. Tonight, I'm going out with the boys and you're going to stay at home where you belong. And another thing... Do you know who's going to comb my hair, adjust my pants, and then tie my bow tie!?!?" "I certainly do," says his wife calmly. "The undertaker. -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage, Associate Webmaster chris@trombone.org http://www.trombone.org - A web site for trombonists ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:50:36 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Bush & books (political reflex jab) Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020111185023.00ab0ee0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:25 PM 1/11/2002 -0700, I wrote: At 11:23 AM 1/11/2002 -0800, Gary Sloane wrote: New Haven is different now, what with big demographic changes, women students at Yale, William F. Buckley having written a book as an undergraduate, and George W. Bush claiming to have read one. He must have read more than one -- just check out his degrees and business experience. The beat the "here" Daschle's credentials to pieces... Boy, that sure came out odd -- Make that "they sure beat the 'hero' Daschle's"... Earl ********************************************************* Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:needhame@yucca.net Clovis, New Mexico KD5XB-2>APU24L,WA5IHL-11,K5BEN-15,WA5IHL-7,W5SF-1,K5CQH-15,WB5EKP-1*,TRACE7- 1:=3425.84N/10313.56W-[DM84] Pet peeve #1: You look at a "SITE" with your "SIGHT". Pet peeve #2: "Congratulations" does NOT have a "d" in it. Old pet peeve: People who get themselves on a mailing list and then can't figure out how to get OFF the list, then repeatedly sending "unsubscribe" or "remove" as one-word messages to the list. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:37:51 -0500 From: "Roger Carmichael" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Question about a horn Message-ID: <007f01c19b1a$853ce4e0$a6fc5a41@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.musictrader.com/conn.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul D. Kemp, Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Question about a horn > Dear Listers, > My daughter goes to school with a youngster who has an old Conn. It says > C.G.Conn Ltd. on the bell, and the serial # on the slide is 419701. The case > is original, and it's shaped like the old 88H cases, except that it is red. > Could someone tell me how old this horn is, and what model it is? > > Paul D. Kemp Jr. > Chattanooga Symphony > www.trbnplyr.com > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:40:25 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Wowsers! Message-ID: <00b001c19b57$077b5db0$e98369d5@homedmpbgvaomg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies for my unseasonal reply to this. It must have travelled around the world a zillion times before it hit the trom-l. It was sent December 26th and gets delivered January 11th. How does this happen? Reindeer-mail? Adrian ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:22:17 -0500 From: "Tom Smith" To: "trombone-l" Subject: shank Message-ID: <003801c19b74$8a1c32e0$6401a8c0@julia00> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, If anyone has a D.Elliott D3 shank you would like to sell. Please contact me off line. Thanks, Tommy ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:00:03 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: slide.rule@adios.co.uk, trombone-l@po.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Wowsers!New use for Bolero Message-ID: <84.21912859.2971a973@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unseasonable reply..... Must have gotten caught in the bottom of a case of Guinness and wasn't liberated until the case was emptied. Over eleven days???????? Last nite January 11, 2002 cable television carried a movie of Dudley Moore in which he and a lady shared a bedroom scene. This brought out a new use for Ravel's Bolero.... Every few minutes the lady would request Dudley to get out of bed and start the record over again so Bolero could be repeated..I do not think that it ever went through the orchestra far enough to get to the trombone part. HMMM!!!!! beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:15:54 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Wowsers! Message-ID: <000801c19b8c$cc252e40$3d525d3f@garymaxwell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's that, Adrian? Gary ========================= From: "Adrian Drover" > Apologies for my unseasonal reply to this. It must have travelled around > the world a zillion times before it hit the trom-l. It was sent December > 26th and gets delivered January 11th. How does this happen? Reindeer-mail? > > Adrian > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_2267--