TROMBONE-L Digest 1964 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Bach 42 for sale by "Richard Zemry Johnson" 2) Bruckner Motets by Douglas Yeo 3) Re: Bach codes by Chris Waage 4) Enlightenment! by silversonic@att.net 5) RE: copper leadpipes, Monette, and weightlifting by "Richardson, Tim" 6) RE: High Range Exercises by "Richardson, Tim" 7) Fwd: Re: Bach codes by Atlbrvsnt@aol.com 8) Shires by "Steven Greenall" 9) US Army Band Job Announcement by "Amoury, Gerard SFC TUSAB" 10) Re: Shires by sabutin@mindspring.com 11) greenhoe for sale by kedbrown@indiana.edu 12) barry mcdonald arrangements by Jim Robins 13) Email acting up by Earl Needham 14) Re: barry mcdonald arrangements by "Dean McCarty" 15) Ophicleide for sale on ebay by Douglas Yeo 16) RE: High Range Exercises by Gabriel Langfur 17) Re: Shires by Gabriel Langfur 18) Yamaha bone by "Justin Miller" 19) Ophicleide for sale on ebay - update by Douglas Yeo 20) Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) by eanogmus@netvision.net.il (Eliezer Aharoni) 21) Re: French Style Cases by eanogmus@netvision.net.il (Eliezer Aharoni) 22) Smartscore Notation Program (non-bone) by eanogmus@netvision.net.il (Eliezer Aharoni) 23) Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay by "Jeffrey Diehl" 24) Mouthpiece Plating by "Charles Perron" 25) Re: Yamaha bone by Neobopr@aol.com 26) Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay by Earl Needham 27) Re: Yamaha bone by "Roger Carmichael" 28) Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay by "Dave Wank" 29) Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay by "Roger Carmichael" 30) Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay by Douglas Yeo 31) Old Conn identification by "Rod Ellard" 32) Re: Old Conn identification by "Dave Wank" 33) Re: Old Conn identification by "Joseph Sellmansberger" 34) Re: barry mcdonald arrangements by Candice & Eric Swanson 35) Re: Yamaha bone by Candice & Eric Swanson 36) Re: Old Conn identification by Candice & Eric Swanson 37) Re: Old Conn identification by Candice & Eric Swanson 38) Re: Old Conn identification by "Matthew Stoecker" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:23:10 -0600 From: "Richard Zemry Johnson" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Bach 42 for sale Message-ID: <005a01c09fcd$6ec39f40$6dce4fd8@zemry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm.....Sounds like a good deal to me. However, I already have a Bach 42B, albeit an older one. Can I just buy the high notes from you? I misplaced my high e-flats through F. How much would they cost wothout buying the entire horn:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas A. Rowe" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: Bach 42 for sale > Reason for selling: I have switched to and purchased a bass trombone, > which needs to be paid for. > > Description: > > 1996 Bach Stradivarious 42GBO (.547 bore) -- gold brass bell and open > wrap F attachment (standard rotor). > > Included are a Bach coffin style hard case and a Protec lightweight > shoulder case. > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:38:59 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Bruckner Motets Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The Bruckner Motets (most for unaccompanied choir, but some with trombone accompaniment) are magnificent, and my 9 recordings of them fill a wonderful spot in my collection and ongoing aural consciousness. Some of you may be aware of my arrangements of the Ave Maria and Inveni David for trombone choir which are published by Southern Music. My fascination with this sublime and powerful music is deep and ongoing as I know it is for many of you. I've recently heard of a new release of several of the Motets, but I have been unsuccessful in finding it online or in stores, perhaps it is just too new. But... if any list members have seen it or found it, could you let me know where. Details: Deutsche Grammophon DGG 459 674-2; the Bruckner Mass No. 1 in D minor (John Eliot Gardiner conducting the Vienna Philharmonic), plus the motets Ave Maria, Christus factus est, Locus iste, Os justi meditabitur, and Tota pulchra es Maria. Released December 2000. Thanks very much. -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:42:47 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: Bach codes Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't forget the ever-popular "POS" option that is standard on brands such as Lark and Parrot . . . ;-) Chris LR - leaky rotor BS - bad slide TOTMT - trashed and overhauled too many times UF - unfixable KR - "kazoo rotor" (loose bearings - rattles when you play loud) £ - POUND some "cents" into this dummie who sent this to the list !!!! -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage chris@trombone.org Associate Webmaster The Online Trombone Journal http://www.trombone.org ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:54:07 +0000 From: silversonic@att.net To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu (Trombone List) Subject: Enlightenment! Message-ID: <20010227135407.UJVF25433.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hello all: In the wake of the tragic passing of J.J. Johnson, my CD changers have seen a number of his discs pass through them. My wife is NOT a huge jazz fan, at least not in the classic sense, preferring the newer "Rippingtons" and "Spyro Gyra" style fare. Well, this morning as we got ready to go to school, as is our routine she went to the stereo and put on some music to start our day. Much to my surprise, she chose "Stan Getz and J.J. Johnson at the Opera House"!!! When I asked her why, her reply was "After J.J. passed, there was a big stir in the jazz and trombone communities, and I could tell how much you were affected. After hearing him, it's no wonder... he was a genius!" So it just goes to prove that enlightenment can come when you least expect it! This simply made my day, and I felt the need to share... Peace, Tom Sousa Rochester, NY ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:01:57 -0500 From: "Richardson, Tim" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: copper leadpipes, Monette, and weightlifting Message-ID: <21E592FA8BA7D311B5B100062B001FE206F12B79@LEE2> Hey, If you can LIFT a Monette, you're doing better than me.! tim richardson > -----Original Message----- > From: Gabriel Langfur [SMTP:glangfur@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:38 PM > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Subject: Re: copper leadpipes > > I haven't tried pure copper, but Steve Shires makes gold brass > leadpipes (higher copper content than yellow brass), and I've tried > those. Very nice with some combinations of bell, slide, etc., but not > centered enough in combination with the red brass bell I play - the > pitch center doesn't feel as stable as with a yellow brass pipe of the > same dimension. With a gold or yellow brass bell, though, the gold > brass in the leadpipe adds a nice warmth to the sound for me. > > Your results will of course vary from mine - and given that you can > successfully play a Monette mouthpiece, I imagine your results will > vary A LOT from mine! > > Gabe > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:06:04 -0500 From: "Richardson, Tim" To: "'David Pozos'" , ellard@sprint.ca, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: High Range Exercises Message-ID: <21E592FA8BA7D311B5B100062B001FE206F12B7A@LEE2> How about a brief description of what these exercises are? Being sufficiently vague that you neither violate copyright ethics or misrepresent them, of course. I know Mr. Bolter is somewhat sensitive about these matters. (and I'm not trying to get something free, I did actually buy his "Methods of Effective Practice" pamphlet.) yours, tim richardson and yes he does play quite nicely up high. down low, also. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Pozos [SMTP:dpozos@xal.megared.net.mx] > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 1:09 PM > To: ellard@sprint.ca; Trombones and related issues forum. > Subject: RE: High Range Exercises > > I have been working with these exercises for about 8 months now and they > have worked well for me. I?ve just started squeaking out high Ab. You have > to follow his instructions about resting the minimum amount of time or > more between each exercise. If you don?t you will kill your self. I > recommend them highly (pun intended). > > David Pozos > Primer Trombon > Orquesta Sinfonica de Xalapa > www.osx.org.mx > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Rod Ellard < ellard@sprint.ca > > Para: Trombones and related issues forum. < > trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu > > Fecha: Lunes, 26 de Febrero de 2001 11:34 a.m. > Asunto: High Range Exercises > > > Is anyone familiar with Norman Bolter's "High Range Exercises" and > has an opinion about them? Rod > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:06:00 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com To: Subject: Fwd: Re: Bach codes Message-ID: <90.10b83986.27cd0e48@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_Part_3a9bb448-0264-67f9-010203040506" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops...accidentally just sent this to Chris instead of the list...sorry Chris! Return-Path: Received: from web25.aolmail.aol.com (web25.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.1]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:05:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:05:02 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com Subject:Re: Bach codes To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <6a.baa3cd4.27cd0e0e@aol.com> Wait a sec, those are at best student models....kids don't need to see that kind of language....I think an SLB (Sounds Like Butt) designation would be much more appropriate for 5th and 6th graders.... -Tommy Cox <> ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:21:43 -0000 From: "Steven Greenall" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Shires Message-ID: <00c101c0a0c8$9c4efee0$ef11fea9@steve> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0A0C8.9C150320" One of our distributors in Korea wants to get in touch with S.E.Shires but says their www, e-mail and fax are all not working. Can anyone give me the latest contact for them - or are they no more? Thanks Steve ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:45:00 -0500 From: "Amoury, Gerard SFC TUSAB" To: "'trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu'" Subject: US Army Band Job Announcement Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0A0D4.3E254638" Listers, I proudly announce openings for one bass and one tenor trombone with the U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) in Washington, DC. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions concerning this audition. In addition, if you are unable to open attachments let me know and I will be glad to send you the document.Ê Best of luck to all and I look forward to hearing from you.Ê ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ ---SFC Jerry Amoury ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ US Army Band <> Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Trombone Audition Invite Lett 1 (WDBN/MSWD) (0000A689) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:37:25 -0500 From: sabutin@mindspring.com To: "Steven Greenall" Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Shires Message-ID: <200102271548.KAA05717@maynard.mail.mindspring.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" At 02:21 PM 2/27/01 +0000, you wrote: One of our distributors in Korea wants to get in touch with S.E.Shires but says their www, e-mail and fax are all not working. Can anyone give me the latest contact for them - or are they no more? Thanks Steve ======================== Shires is still open, and thriving, to all appearances...I just talked to them on the phone. Their email address is , and their telephone is (508) 634-6805. S. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:12:34 -0500 From: kedbrown@indiana.edu To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: greenhoe for sale Message-ID: <200102271812.NAA16741@indiana.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sorry list- I'm asking $800 for the valve not $900 Kevin ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:26:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Robins To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: barry mcdonald arrangements Message-ID: <20010227192637.86675.qmail@web9101.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1404755931-983301997=:86040" Greetings List, I am looking for some arrangements done by Barry McDonald for trombone quartet/quintet and rhythm section. I know he did a bunch of them, including "It's alright with me." I have that one already. I've checked pepper and robert king and haven't found anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Jim James Robins Band Director - Hampstead Middle School, Hampstead, NH Freelance Trombonist - New England Area Kappa Kappa Psi - Iota Phi Alumni http://www.geocities.com/kkpsi44 Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:30:18 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Email acting up Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010227132921.00b1c100@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm experiencing email problems. My kd5xb@amsat.org can receive OK, but for some reason, needhame@yucca.net does NOT receive email from Trombone-L. Sorry for the bandwidth, Earl ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:45:53 -0600 From: "Dean McCarty" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: barry mcdonald arrangements Message-ID: <002601c0a10f$0b76f2a0$cb0960cc@compaqcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0A0DC.BF7D8EE0" I believe that all of those are now out of print. A friend of mine, Mike Brumbaugh (Norrad Band alumni), and myself cleared out Southern Music Company of all of their copies of these tunes. I ended up with about 11 arrangements by Barry McDonald. Your only hope would be to check with Penders Music in Denton, Tx. and see if they have any ideas.Ê Good luck! Dean McCarty freelance trombonist, Houston area ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Robins To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: barry mcdonald arrangements Greetings List, I am looking for some arrangements done by Barry McDonald for trombone quartet/quintet and rhythm section. I know he did a bunch of them, including "It's alright with me." I have that one already. I've checked pepper and robert king and haven't found anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Jim James Robins Band Director - Hampstead Middle School, Hampstead, NH Freelance Trombonist - New England Area Kappa Kappa Psi - Iota Phi Alumni http://www.geocities.com/kkpsi44 Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:41:39 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Ophicleide for sale on ebay Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Ebay is offering an ophicleide for sale at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item =1413237772 From the photos, I can't tell what key it is in (C or B flat); I've asked the seller to measure it which would give a clue). It appears to be 9 keys (standard - those with more keys don't always have better intonation), the bocal is the "later" style with a moveable tuning slide, mouthpiece appears to be original. No way to know what pitch it is at (some are a=441 or higher, others are much lower). The seller is in Uruguay but has an exemplary positive feedback record on Ebay. While there's no way to know how it plays (whether it needs significant restoration or can play as is) the condition from the photos appears to be very good; it is an interesting instrument which will surely fill a nice place in someone's collection. FYI. -Doug Yeo (who plays ophicleide) ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: High Range Exercises Message-ID: <20010227234001.54600.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Richardson, Tim" wrote: > How about a brief description of what these exercises are? > > Essentially, they take a gradual approach, alternating legato or lip slur approaches to the high register with articulations, usually repeated and quite pointed on the highest note of the exercise. He also specifies times and durations of rest between exercises. Very effective when done carefully, slowly, and with good attention to the way your body reacts. Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:41:00 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Shires Message-ID: <20010227234100.82715.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Make that seshires@tiac.net Gabe --- sabutin@mindspring.com wrote: Their email address is <seshires@teac.net>, and their telephone is (508) 634-6805.

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__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:59:44 -0500 From: "Justin Miller" To: Subject: Yamaha bone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine has a Yamaha YSL-356R bone (serial # 44536CA), and he would like whatever information he can get about it and opinions on the horn itself. I figured I could help him out by coming here with his request... Justin Miller Geneva College http://www.geneva.edu ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:09:08 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Ophicleide for sale on ebay - update Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" FYI -The owner of the ophicleide for sale on Ebay reports that it is 98 cm in length, which would likely make it in C (my Roehn ophicleide in C is 103 cm). -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:23:31 +0200 From: eanogmus@netvision.net.il (Eliezer Aharoni) To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A Euphonium student of mine just baught a book + CD of Concert studies for Euphonium (I don't have the exact name) by Steven Mead. It's an excellent collection of challenging and diversified studies!!! Eliezer Aharoni, Bass Trombonist, Jerusalem Symphony POB 1066 Mevaseret Zion ISRAEL 90805 Phone 972-2-5341333 ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:38:49 +0200 From: eanogmus@netvision.net.il (Eliezer Aharoni) To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: French Style Cases Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Speaking about french style cases - I baught in Prague a nice Amati bass trombone case forabout $75. It's made of fiberglass with white foam fittings inside that I had to take out. It's very light and fits well a 9.5 inch horn - not larger!!! I would'nt ship a horn on a plane with it, though, but it's very light and good to use for people who have to walk with the horn. As well, I have an old Edwards tenor case that fits the bass. This one is heavy and well-padded, and gives the horn a very good protection. Eliezer Aharoni, Bass Trombonist, Jerusalem Symphony POB 1066 Mevaseret Zion ISRAEL 90805 Phone 972-2-5341333 ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:44:36 +0200 From: eanogmus@netvision.net.il (Eliezer Aharoni) To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Smartscore Notation Program (non-bone) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi listers, Has anyone worked with the smartscore program? Please send feedbacks. I have a problem booting this program on my Mac. Anyone encountered and solved the problem? Eliezer Aharoni, Bass Trombonist, Jerusalem Symphony POB 1066 Mevaseret Zion ISRAEL 90805 Phone 972-2-5341333 ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:35:23 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Diehl" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay Message-ID: <000f01c0a11e$628ef240$55380941@gambrills1.md.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Yeo" > Ebay is offering an ophicleide for sale . . . > The seller is in Uruguay but has an exemplary positive feedback on E-Bay. Paolo Esperanza is selling an ophicleide? Ducking for cover QUICKLY! Jeff Diehl ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:46:50 -0500 From: "Charles Perron" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Mouthpiece Plating Message-ID: <003101c0a11f$f086d440$fedab418@glou1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody have any recommendations/suggestions where I can have 2 old mouthpieces plated? One is a one piece and the other has a screw rim. I live in NJ with easy access to both NYC and Philly if that makes a difference. Thanks, Chuck ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:54:56 EST From: Neobopr@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Yamaha bone Message-ID: <74.82876a3.27cdb470@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/01 8:01:01 PM, jemiller@geneva.edu writes: <> This horn is an intermediate dual-bore (.500-.525) with a red brass bell. It should also have and F attachment. They are no longer being manufactured. Artist/Clinician for Yamaha: Jeff Adams ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:09:25 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010227190841.00c4d790@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:35 PM 2/27/01 -0500, Jeffrey Diehl blasted the following out into the ether: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Yeo" > Ebay is offering an ophicleide for sale . . . > The seller is in Uruguay but has an exemplary positive feedback on E-Bay. Paolo Esperanza is selling an ophicleide? Ducking for cover QUICKLY! Relax -- a mute won't fit in it! Earl Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34d 25.446m W103d 12.700m (or so) Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, you breathe...) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:51:50 -0500 From: "Roger Carmichael" To: Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Yamaha bone Message-ID: <012c01c0a131$677a1f60$ed7a0b3f@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out this link and enter the model number: http://yamaha.com/band/instruments/history.htm Roger Carmichael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Miller" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Yamaha bone > A friend of mine has a Yamaha YSL-356R bone (serial # 44536CA), and he would > like whatever information he can get about it and opinions on the horn > itself. I figured I could help him out by coming here with his request... > > Justin Miller > Geneva College > http://www.geneva.edu > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:18:54 -0500 From: "Dave Wank" To: "TROMBONE-L" , "Trombone-L" , Subject: Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay Message-ID: <003701c0a135$2eeb8720$a598fea9@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just checked on this ebay oisting and it came up as being withdrawn or sold. I wonder how much it went for. Also, under what listing was it found? When I checked under Ophicleide all they listed was a sign which sold at $13.95! Dave wank ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:31:46 -0500 From: "Roger Carmichael" To: "Dave Wank" Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay Message-ID: <018901c0a136$fbf02860$ed7a0b3f@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The listing to which Doug Yeo referred is still alive and well, as of 10:30 EST. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=14132 37772 Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Wank" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay > I just checked on this ebay oisting and it came up as being withdrawn or > sold. I wonder how much it went for. Also, under what listing was it > found? When I checked under Ophicleide all they listed was a sign which > sold at $13.95! > Dave wank > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:34:53 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Ophicleide for sale on ebay Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 10:18 PM -0500 2/27/01, Dave Wank wrote: I just checked on this ebay oisting and it came up as being withdrawn or sold. I wonder how much it went for. Also, under what listing was it found? When I checked under Ophicleide all they listed was a sign which sold at $13.95! It's still there, the URL has no spaces in it, and may break over two lines (last number is a "2"): http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item =1413237772 Ebay updates the listings once a day, so it will appear tomorrow when you search for "ophicleide." By the way, I don't know the seller, but he emailed me last week to say he would be selling this instrument; I told him I would try to get the word out for him. Nothing in this for me.... -Doug ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:29:55 -0800 From: "Rod Ellard" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Old Conn identification Message-ID: <000d01c0a13f$1bdc2e00$a0e894d1@ellard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0A0FC.0BC163C0" After trawling the archives, I have concluded that Conn's student/intermediate horns were engraved with the three marching men and the fireworks, but the professional models were not (a mid-60's 88H and my late 60's 62H have rather ordinary engraving.ÊÊTherefore, an auction horn with the 3 bandsmen is likely to be other than a pro level 50's or 60's Conn horn. Correct or otherwise?Ê Rod ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:58:34 -0500 From: "Dave Wank" To: "Trombone-L" , Subject: Re: Old Conn identification Message-ID: <004201c0a143$1b7afe60$a598fea9@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C0A119.31B25900" Rod, I have a Conn 6H from 1957 (715XXX) that has the marching men and a rather showy bit of engraving above the m'men panel. It isn't really similar to the fireworks of a later period. Dave Wank ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:30:41 -0600 From: "Joseph Sellmansberger" To: "trombone list" Subject: Re: Old Conn identification Message-ID: <002301c0a147$9ceb7340$33935d0c@vogmudet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0A115.4D79FFC0" I don't know that there is a hard and fast "rule" here, but that "marching" men thing was put in with a "roller-stamp" (quick) and the ÊC O N NÊÊ thing (although simple) was actually hand-engraved (more time consuming). I would say generally "Yes" as an answer.ÊÊI have seen some 6H's (.500" bore model that was similar to their beginner model in quite a few ways) with the "marching men" roller-stamped, but surrounded with hand-engraved filigree. Were, perhaps, the bells (not the entire instruments) used on the 6H modelsÊand certain (not all)Ê"Director" models one and the same, except for the added hand engraving? (They sure appear that way.) ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Ellard To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Old Conn identification After trawling the archives, I have concluded that Conn's student/intermediate horns were engraved with the three marching men and the fireworks, but the professional models were not (a mid-60's 88H and my late 60's 62H have rather ordinary engraving.ÊÊTherefore, an auction horn with the 3 bandsmen is likely to be other than a pro level 50's or 60's Conn horn. Correct or otherwise?Ê Rod ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:50:58 -0500 From: Candice & Eric Swanson Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: barry mcdonald arrangements Message-ID: <3A9C83B1.7C34B063@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Jim wrote: > > I am looking for some arrangements done by Barry McDonald > for trombone quartet/quintet and rhythm section. I know he > did a bunch of them, including "It's alright with me." I > have that one already. I've checked pepper and robert king > and haven't found anything. Any help would be greatly > appreciated!!! > > You might be able to get Barry's number from the Nashville Musicians' Union (any Nashvillians on the list?) if he's still living. His brother, I believe, is Chris McDonald a trombonist in Nashville. He wrote some of the charts in this series, and would know if they're are available. I've played these charts, and they are very good. Eric Swanson ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:57:17 -0500 From: Candice & Eric Swanson To: jemiller@geneva.edu Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Yamaha bone Message-ID: <3A9C852D.EAF12D64@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Justin Miller wrote: > A friend of mine has a Yamaha YSL-356R bone (serial # 44536CA), and he would > like whatever information he can get about it and opinions on the horn > itself. I figured I could help him out by coming here with his request... > Justin, It's an intermediate model, .500"/.525" dual bore, 8 inch bell. Eric ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:09:24 -0500 From: Candice & Eric Swanson Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Old Conn identification Message-ID: <3A9C8803.DE27768C@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rod Ellard wrote: > After trawling the archives, I have concluded that Conn's > student/intermediate horns were engraved with the three marching men > and the fireworks, but the professional models were not (a mid-60's > 88H and my late 60's 62H have rather ordinary engraving. Therefore, > an auction horn with the 3 bandsmen is likely to be other than a pro > level 50's or 60's Conn horn. Correct or otherwise? Rod, The 6Hs all through the 1960s (and late 50s) had the "marching men" and are professional horns. That is the only exception I can think of, but there could be others. Eric Swanson ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:21:58 -0500 From: Candice & Eric Swanson Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Old Conn identification Message-ID: <3A9C8AF5.BFF6EFB5@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joseph Sellmansberger wrote: > Were, perhaps, the bells (not the entire instruments) used on the 6H > models and certain (not all) "Director" models one and the same, > except for the added hand engraving? (They sure appear that way.) Joe, If we're talking about horns from the 60s, don't forget the 14H Director only had a 7.5 inch bell, while the 6H had an 8 inch bell. Even earlier 14Hs had only a 7 inch bell. But, I'm pretty sure they did come off the same mandrel, regardless, so essentially they are probably the same bell but not exactly the same. By the time of the 16H Director (.500" bore) the bell was up to 8 inch, so they were pretty much the same except for the engraving. But that was in the late 70s or 1980, so it was more a matter of the 6H falling to the level of the 16H quality-wise. Eric ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:45:03 -0800 From: "Matthew Stoecker" To: ellard@sprint.ca, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Old Conn identification Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Otherwise! The 10H and 6H, and possibly others from that period, have the 3 marching men, but also have scrollwork. The key is-does the engraving have 3 marching men and scrollwork? (pro horn) or 3 marching men and stars (student). There's also an intermediate that has stars and some scroll work. Best of luck! Matthew Stoecker From: "Rod Ellard" Reply-To: ellard@sprint.ca To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Old Conn identification Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:29:55 -0800 After trawling the archives, I have concluded that Conn's student/intermediate horns were engraved with the three marching men and the fireworks, but the professional models were not (a mid-60's 88H and my late 60's 62H have rather ordinary engraving. Therefore, an auction horn with the 3 bandsmen is likely to be other than a pro level 50's or 60's Conn horn. Correct or otherwise? Rod _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1964--