TROMBONE-L Digest 1961 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Barber of Seville by "H du Plooy" 2) Re: Barber of Seville by Howard Weiner 3) TAP by chardy@totcon.com 4) Theory Software by "Denver D. Seifried" 5) Website Updates by "Paul D. Kemp Jr." 6) Re: Website Updates by Atlbrvsnt@aol.com 7) Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) by "Kathy-Green -TJ" 8) Re: Cleveland Superior by Gary Sloane 9) Re: TAP by David Burch 10) SAT by "Steve Beck" 11) RE: Barber of Seville by Steve Gamble 12) Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) by MMBNo1@aol.com 13) Lone Tree Symphony by David Oliver 14) Thom Ritter George by Jim Ryon 15) Re: Website Updates by "Paul D. Kemp Jr." 16) Trombone-L @ Trombone.org by "Richard Human, Jr." 17) Re: Website Updates by "Paul D. Kemp Jr." 18) RE: "french" cases still made? by "Daniel Cloutier" 19) Stand Light advice by "Kevin Saunders" 20) Re: Stand Light advice by Craig Parmerlee 21) Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) by "Adrian Drover" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:49:02 +0200 From: "H du Plooy" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Barber of Seville Message-ID: <20010224124902.1952.qmail@proliant2.mailgate.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear friends, We're doing it this week, and I've got two first trombone parts in my hands, both Beitkopf&Hartell (sp?) edition. But the parts differ, oddly enough. The main difference is that some of the notes (like the B in the first bar) is an octave higher than in the other one. So which is the most authentic one? The higer one or the lower one? Please reply cc privately to hans@ananzi.co.za Thanks Hans ----------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by Ananzi Mail http://mail.ananzi.co.za ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:46:46 From: Howard Weiner To: hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Barber of Seville Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010224144646.37777b76@mail.privat.toplink.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 14:49 24.02.2001 +0200, H du Plooy wrote: >Dear friends, > >We're doing it this week, and I've got two first trombone parts in my hands, both Beitkopf&Hartell (sp?) edition. But the parts differ, oddly enough. The main difference is that some of the notes (like the B in the first bar) is an octave higher than in the other one. > >So which is the most authentic one? The higer one or the lower one? Neither! As I wrote to the list two years ago: The original versions of Rossini operas generally have just one (a bass) trombone part. (The "bass" trombone in Italy during the first half of the 19th century was probably a B-flat instrument, but that's another story.) There are however various versions of the operas, or at least of their overtures, that call for three trombones. This has to do with the 19th-century Italian practice of altering scores for specific productions or occasions. Sometimes whole arias were re-written or even replaced by new ones, by the original composer or by someone else. So too with the trombone parts. If the orchestra had three trombonists and the conductor wanted all three to play, the appropriate parts were copied out and all three trombonists had to work for their money, instead of just sitting in the bar drinking cappuccino. ;-) Howard -- Howard Weiner weiner@privat.toplink.de http://www.odilia.ch/howard-weiner "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" - attributed to Frank Zappa "Beschriebene Musik ist wie ein erzŠhltes Mittagessen" - Franz Grillparzer zugeschrieben ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:57:04 -0500 From: chardy@totcon.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: TAP Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20010224125704.006ed93c@totcon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Would someone be so kind as to give me the phone number of TAP Music...please? charlie ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:39:42 -0500 From: "Denver D. Seifried" To: "trombone-l" Subject: Theory Software Message-ID: <001101c09e6f$a22a1800$be435acf@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List Members: Forgive the low trombone content; however, I have a good high school trombonist who will be entering college in one more year. Coming from a very small high school, he will not have any music theory, before entering college. Are any list members using a computer program for music theory, whereby my student could almost self-teach himself theory. I would be able to check over his work from time to time during lessons or maybe he could e-mail it to me. If no good software exist, what would you recommend, in hard copy materials, that would help prepare my student for college theory. Please e-mail off list, as I do not want to clutter up the list. Denny Seifried Bass Trombone-Springfield (OH) Symphony & Dayton Jazz Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:05:26 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Website Updates Message-ID: <001901c09e73$38f6cd20$daefb23f@pauljr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listers: They say that a picture is worth a thousand words. Last Saturday, I had one of my trombone students, Jay Samilo, take some pictures of me playing to show correct and incorrect embouchure formation. I have just added these pictures to the fundamentals page of my website. Just go to www.trbnplyr.com and click on FUNDAMENTALS and scroll down to the EMBOUCHURE section and take a look. This is intended to be helpful to the folks out there who do not have the luxury of a private teacher. Of course, the sound is the most important thing, Later on, I will be adding some playing posture pictures as Jay gets them developed. Incidentally, as a high school freshman, Jay scored 1648 on the SAT. He installed a complete computer network at his father's plant, TAPISTRON, in Ringgold, Ga. 4 YEARS AGO and he also did the website www.tapistron.com. His trombone playing is really strating to come around, but he is an absolutely brilliant young man and I am really enjoy working with him. Anybody know where a 16 year old genius can gat a job? He's already been scouted by MIT. Paul Kemp Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:46:30 EST From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Website Updates Message-ID: <40.7d9fad9.27c93156@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul wrote: <> Ringgold HS-- an excellent band program relatively in the middle of nowhere....I came from Carrollton HS, a good bit farther south, but somehow in the same District with Ringgold. And now I know of about 3 or 4 excellent trombone players still in school there. Anyway--as a college freshman this year, I fear Jay may be exaggerating a bit...the highest possible SAT score is 1600. But anyway...I will go check out the website. Sorry for my pointlessness. Tommy Cox University of Alabama ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:27:53 -0800 From: "Kathy-Green -TJ" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Speaking as primarily a Euphonium player who has picked up bass trombone on the side - all the suggestions you've all made are good ones. Agreed that Rochut can get boring, but they're necessary. I would also suggest the bass trombone Rochut to get the 4th valve thing going. The Blazevich clef studies are something they should start NOW. Every Euphonium player should be able to play bass, treble and tenor clef on sight. (Tenor clef can be easily transposed to treble or vice versa with some key mods.) When I've been lucky enough as a band director to have a student who could read both clefs (treble and bass) it was nice to be able to give them a part and say "please read the tenor sax/bass clarinet/trombone part from letter "x" to letter "x" if it was necessary to pull off a good performance of a piece - particularly a transcription (which as you know can be really difficult for a high school band.) The wonderful thing about Euphonium is that you have so much literature to choose from. During my years in college I played/practiced/performed trumpet, trombone, cello, and Euphonium literature. Kathy Green Band Director - Thomas Jefferson High School, Federal Way, WA Bass Trombone - Seattle Women's Jazz Orchestra Euphonium - Highline Community Band ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:34:54 -0800 From: Gary Sloane To: Todd Jonz , Trombone-L mailing list Cc: mwade48@home.com Subject: Re: Cleveland Superior Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 6:23 PM -0800 2/23/01, Todd Jonz wrote: Michel Wade writes: > I am wondering about the reputation of the King Cleveland > Superior trombone. It has a serial no. in the 120,000 range, > which, checking with the umi website, means that it was made > in the late 20's. This comes as a surprise to me. My original horn as a kid was a King Cleveland Superior, and mine also has a 120xxx serial number. As far as I know, it was purchased new in 1962. > I have no clue as to what this horn would be worth. While I have no expertise whatsoever on these matters, I have always assumed that this was a "student quality" horn for which my parents payed about US$150 -- but then that was in 1962 dollars. ;-) -- Todd Jonz When cryptography is outlawed, todd@tj.org bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. I bought my first King 2B, brand new with alligator trim case, at Manny's for $150 in 1959. (Of course, that was with my teacher's professional discount of 40%.) -- Gary Sloane sloane@batnet.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:03:09 -0500 From: David Burch To: chardy@totcon.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: TAP Message-ID: <3A97F75C.EFD285C6@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 641-792-0352 http://www.tapmusic.com chardy@totcon.com wrote: > Would someone be so kind as to give me the phone number of TAP Music...please? > > charlie ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:52:07 -0500 From: "Steve Beck" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: SAT Message-ID: <004501c09e92$e7b53440$10330923@cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: .Anyway--as a college freshman this year, I fear Jay may be exaggerating a bit...the highest possible SAT score is 1600. My son verified this. Incidentally, he scored 1300 as a seventh grader - yet he chooses to play trumpet. Can anyone say "Idiot Savant?" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:16:43 -0700 From: Steve Gamble To: "'hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za'" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Barber of Seville Message-ID: <01C09E5B.A6BEAB60.orchpers@azstarnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hans, There a several versions of the Overture to The Barber of Seville. As far as I can tell from my references, the critical edition has no trombones at all. So, I would say that which of the two parts you play should be the one you like best. Kalmus has a one trombone version that it calls the "original Italian edition." Kalmus also publishes a 3 trombone version (which is probably a Breitkopf reprint). Breitkopf has two publications, one printed in Weisbaden and the other in Leipzig which would account for the slight differences. As for whether or not Rossini had anything to do with the addition of trombones to the overture, I don't know. Maybe Mr. Guion can shed some light on that. Steve Gamble -----Original Message----- From: H du Plooy [SMTP:hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 5:49 AM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Barber of Seville Dear friends, We're doing it this week, and I've got two first trombone parts in my hands, both Beitkopf&Hartell (sp?) edition. But the parts differ, oddly enough. The main difference is that some of the notes (like the B in the first bar) is an octave higher than in the other one. So which is the most authentic one? The higer one or the lower one? Please reply cc privately to hans@ananzi.co.za Thanks Hans ----------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by Ananzi Mail http://mail.ananzi.co.za ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:10:25 EST From: MMBNo1@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) Message-ID: <4d.7e31e20.27c96f31@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4d.7e31e20.27c96f31_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline In a message dated 2/24/2001 11:23:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, kgreen@fwsd.wednet.edu writes: . ÊEvery Euphonium player should be able to play bass, treble and tenor clef on sight. Ê(Tenor clef can be easily transposed to treble or vice versa with some key mods.) I've always wondered, is there any special trick to playing in the various clefs, or is it just learned through practice? doug doug __________ One Life, One Chance. ÊGotta Do It Right ÊÊÊÊÊ-H2O No Matter How Hard You Try You Can't Stop Us Now ÊÊÊÊÊ-Rage Against the Machine I never found the companion that was so companiable as solitude ÊÊÊÊÊ-Thoreau You Can Crush Us; You Can Burn Us, But You'll have to Answer to the Guns of Brixton ÊÊÊÊÊ-The Clash ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:20:40 -0800 From: David Oliver To: Trombone List Subject: Lone Tree Symphony Message-ID: <3A9841C7.82566AB9@accessnetusa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I just had to relate to my friends on the list my first performance last night playing bass trombone in an amateur group called the Lone Tree Symphony. It is a smaller group, but they were able to field around 15 violins and 2 violas, 3 or 4 cellos, and 3 string bass. There were a few "ringers" here and there, and about 50 musicians total. I remember someone commenting about a violin player running out at the intermission and not coming back! He apparently had another gig to do. I'd say they had a good 300 or so folks in the audience. Now I know why you symphonic bass trombonists have so much fun! There's lots of rest counting, but those times when you play it makes a difference and often it is almost a solo part. I worked on trying to match the string basses best I could when it was just us. The full brass program (sort of a classical "top 40") consisted of: Carmen Suite No.1, Op. 24a (yes, I almost came in on the tacet 4th movement!), Bizet Little Fugue in G Minor, J.S. Bach Samson & Dalila "Dance Bacchanale" Op.47 (tough to count right during the rests at first) Marche Hongroise (from "The Damnation of Faust, Op. 24), Berlioz A question though. One of the other trombone players wondered about works highlighting the trombone section. Any hints for a smaller community orchestra type of group? David Oliver Broomfield, CO USA Trombone/Treasurer, Denver Concert Band Bass Trombone, Lone Tree Symphony P.S. My apologies if this was already asked this past week. I often don't get the chance to check all the t-list posts till Sunday each week. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:36:33 -0500 From: Jim Ryon To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Thom Ritter George Message-ID: <3A984581.4070303@desupernet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Friends: Does anyone know of a recording of the SONATA FOR TROMBONE AND PIANO by Thom Ritter George. It was written in 1977. Thank you. Jim Ryon, Hanover, PA ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:15:18 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Website Updates Message-ID: <005f01c09ec8$6b81f260$82c1b23f@pauljr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listers, I called Jay's dad, and he confirmed what you guys said. Jay only scored over 1400, but this is still a remarkable achievement for a 15 year old. He is one amazing kid, and I'm hoping that his trombone playing will catch up with the rest of his genius. It is a real challenge to him, and his taking the pictures is one way of helping his SEE what is supposed to happen, as he has been struggling with a nasty air pocket in the lower lip/bunched chin, and it happens around middle F. When he plays low Bb, his embouchure is picture perfect, so I have been having him do a lot of low register work in order to train the muscles the right way, then, with time and perseverance, he should be able to carry this over to the middle and upper registers. He is quite tenacious, and he's not a quitter, so I'm expecting great things out of him in the next couple of years. Jay also took some posture pictures, which I'll be adding to the FUNDAMENTALS page very soon. Paul Kemp Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Website Updates > Dear Listers: > They say that a picture is worth a thousand words. Last Saturday, I had > one of my trombone students, Jay Samilo, take some pictures of me playing to > show correct and incorrect embouchure formation. I have just added these > pictures to the fundamentals page of my website. Just go to www.trbnplyr.com > and click on FUNDAMENTALS and scroll down to the EMBOUCHURE section and take > a look. This is intended to be helpful to the folks out there who do not > have the luxury of a private teacher. Of course, the sound is the most > important thing, Later on, I will be adding some playing posture pictures as > Jay gets them developed. > Incidentally, as a high school freshman, Jay scored 1648 on the SAT. He > installed a complete computer network at his father's plant, TAPISTRON, in > Ringgold, Ga. 4 YEARS AGO and he also did the website www.tapistron.com. His > trombone playing is really strating to come around, but he is an absolutely > brilliant young man and I am really enjoy working with him. Anybody know > where a 16 year old genius can gat a job? He's already been scouted by MIT. > > Paul Kemp > Chattanooga Symphony > www.trbnplyr.com > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:21:45 +0000 From: "Richard Human, Jr." To: Trombone List Subject: Trombone-L @ Trombone.org Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Greetings, The Trombone-L web page and archives have a new home at the Online Trombone Journal. This section is still under development, but is finished enough for public viewing (I hope). This new home features a new interface for handling subscriptions including subscribing, unsubscribing, setting the digest mode, postponing your subscription, and receiving information about your subscription. Readers can view daily digests going back to December 1999 (organized by tear, then month), and soon we will add a new search feature to the archives. http://www.trombone.org/trombone-l/ If you have suggestions for improvements to this page please let me or the list monitor know. Take care, Richard Human, Jr. --------------------------------------------- Webmaster and Publisher The Online Trombone Journal http://www.trombone.org/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:53:20 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Website Updates Message-ID: <000a01c09ed6$1d3cfce0$645ffc9e@pauljr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Listers: I have just finished adding the posture pictures that my student took of me last Saturday to the FUNDAMENTALS page of my website. There are pictures both standing and seated. It's amazing how much you learn about yourself when someone has a camera on you. Again, I want to publicly thank my student, Jay Samilo, for all the help he has given me in this endeavor. Paul Kemp Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:58:29 -0800 From: "Daniel Cloutier" To: elmsandr@msu.edu Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: RE: "french" cases still made? Message-ID: <200102250358.TAA31929@mail7.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 elmsandr@msu wrote: >I wonder if the case would fit a Thayer horn as I would like a nice >hard case that hopefully would cost less than a Walt Johnson. Yes, it will fit, however, you have to rip out the plastic molding in the bottom of the case (if it has it). I carefully pulled off the blue velvet, removed the plastic mold, made my own heavy duty styrofoam pieces to support the Thayer bell section properly, then re-installed the blue velvet. You also need to removed the large blue velvet-covered pad that is glued to the slide compartment. Hope that helps. ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:34:30 -0600 From: "Kevin Saunders" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Stand Light advice Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colleagues, I am getting stand lights for our quartet, and wonder if I can poll the list re: good ones and one's to avoid. Please be specific. Thanks a million, Kevin Saunders, in the dark ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 00:30:26 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Stand Light advice Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010225001524.01fd8a60@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:34 PM 2/24/2001 -0600, Kevin Saunders wrote: I am getting stand lights for our quartet, and wonder if I can poll the list re: good ones and one's to avoid. Please be specific. That is easy. There are no good ones sold commercially, period. The ones that take wall power may provide enough light, but they are a real hassle. I've seen a whole row of stands go over when a person tripped over the cord, and I've seen colleagues burn themselves more than once. The battery powered ones are pathetic. Basically you can buy a cheap underpowered fluorescent one for $40 or you can buy an expensive underpowered one for $150. In either case, there isn't enough juice to last a 3 hour rehearsal or gig -- not even close. A total waste of money, IMHO. Over the holidays, I developed an LED based light using flexible socket tubing. It uses the latest Nichia high-powered white LEDs. These things put out enough light to be quite adequate, and three AA cells give you strong light for 30 hours! The only drawbacks are that the LEDs are about 7 times more expensive than standard LEDs. I mounted mine in a flexible socket tube. This gives you a great deal of flexibility, but it also makes for tedious manufacturing. I made 12 of them over the holidays. I listed one of them on eBay and actually sold 6 from that listing (the winner decided to buy them for everyone in his quintet, and the runner up made me an offer I couldn't refuse). I sold the others to local friends. I could be persuaded to make another batch if there is interest. They would be $45 for a 3 LED setup and $53 for a 4 LED setup. 3 LEDs provide adequate coverage. 4 is a bonus. I have a few supplies left, but I'd probably need to order another batch of LEDs, so it would probably be late March before I could deliver. If folks are interested, please email me privately. My original eBay listing is at http://www.acticalc.com/ebay/standlt.htm That is an approximation of the product. However, I have made some reinvestments. Now the gooseneck is shorter and the socket section is longer. That increases the costs, but makes a more functional product. Cheers, Craig ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:57:48 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) Message-ID: <008201c09f19$f24ff8e0$dd9bfc3e@q9y6f8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: MMBNo1@aol.com To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Euphonium Studies (Was Bach and Blazevich) >In a message dated 2/24/2001 11:23:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, >kgreen@fwsd.wednet.edu writes: >>. Every >>Euphonium player should be able to play bass, treble and tenor clef on >>sight. (Tenor clef can be easily transposed to treble or vice versa with >>some key mods.) I have never seen euphonium written in tenor clef. I asked a friend (who's first instrument is euph) about this just 2 days ago. He verified that only bass clef and Bb treble are used. I have tho' seen Bb tenor tuba parts written in bass clef, transposed up a tone (German notation). I should say also that it is handy to know tenor clef on euph, as sometimes when the part is missing, you may be handed a bassoon part, which definitely does use tenor clef in the high register. >I've always wondered, is there any special trick to playing in the various >clefs, or is it just learned through practice? There is a trick to playing Bb treble clef if you already know tenor clef (or vice versa). Just adjust the key sig. by 2 flats or 2 sharps, depending on which way you're going. A. Adrian Drover (ADIOS Scotland) Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk Business: studio@adios.co.uk www.adios.co.uk ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1961--