TROMBONE-L Digest 1949 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Elliott Mpc by Tim Dowling 2) Re: J.J. by "Michael Towe" 3) Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" by john wasson 4) Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" by "stevencarr" 5) Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" by "Rod Ellard" 6) New Yeo search engine by Douglas Yeo 7) Helping students buy horns by "Paul D. Kemp Jr." 8) trombone for sale cheap by chardy@totcon.com 9) Re: Conn Stroboconn Tuner by NSTARVT@aol.com 10) J.J. Johnson Memorial Scholarship Fund by Matt Calvert 11) Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" by "Adrian Drover" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:25:15 +0100 From: Tim Dowling To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Elliott Mpc Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010210132515.007a22b0@pop.cablewanadoo.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Would someone be so kind as to mail me (privately) the current prices of Doug Elliott's mouthpieces. My catalog is several years out of date. Thanks Tim Dowling Residentie Orchestra The Hague Fam. Dowling (please note our new email address) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:46:44 -0800 From: "Michael Towe" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: J.J. Message-ID: <006c01c09370$4a67a2e0$03000004@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01C0932D.3B829980" WOW!!!! here it is Saturday morning and I have been so busy at work that I didn't even know of J.J.'s passing. I sit here at my computer with jaw on the floor at reading this news. I feel compelled to say something so here it is. Being a 34 year old drummer I had never heard much about J.J. Nor had I thought about learning to play a horn. If you had asked me 5 years ago if Would ever play a trombone I would have laughed at you and thought " Who in there right mind would ever want to play that overgrown slide whistle where you sit in the background and comp all day" but then I heard J.J. It was on a CD with a Count Basie small combo...the Kansas City 5 I believe. I was mesmerized by the sound that he created. Not piercing and tense like so many screech trumpeters but smooth as silk. So moving that it filled me with a desire to learn that same overgrown slide whistle. Since then the King company has fattened there wallet from me, and Jamey Abersol now gets money from me as regularly as the phone company. All this because J.J. put that sound in my head that I can't get rid of. He has complicated my life and at times I curse his name for doing this to me. but at those magical times when I can solo and not hit a wrong note no matter how hard I try I thank God that I was infected by the J.J. virus that was spread by that damned Count Basie CD. Thank you J.J. for bringing so much frustration and joy into my life. You will be missed. Mike -----Original Message----- From: MMBNo1@aol.com <MMBNo1@aol.com> To: Trombones and related issues forum. <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu> Date: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:04 PM Subject: J.J. After reading the few posts on J.J's passing, I began to understand the situation more. ÊÊHowever, it is unfortunate that excerpts such as the following get sent over electronic wavelengths: *** Jazz musician Johnson kills self WASHINGTON, D.C. (Billboard) - James Louis "J.J." Johnson, the father of modern jazz trombone, died Saturday at his home in Indianapolis of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. He had been suffering from prostate cancer. Johnson, who was 77, reinvented the role of the trombone in jazz from a gut-bucket accompanying voice to a facile and mellifluous front-line solo instrument. He also arranged, composed and scored films. He won a Grammy for 1999's "Heroes," and was nominated for several others. In the 1960s - after recording albums for Savoy, Blue Note, Prestige, Bethlehem and other labels - he began to earn accolades as a leader and as co-leader, with trombonist Kai Winding, on the popular "Jay and Kai" albums. I might be overeacting, but it seems pretty blunt to me. On a brighter note, does anyone have a piano transciption to mysterioso. ÊI have a set of his solos, but I cannot play it with my pianist friend without the piano part. doug ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:58:45 -0600 From: john wasson To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" Message-ID: <3A856533.E53288C8@johnwasson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not sure, but I *think* this was recorded on the LP that came out immediately before "M.F. Horn". The album was simply titled, "Maynard Ferguson", and also included a great chart on "Stoney End." I remember the album cover; it showed Maynard (wearing a white or gray suit, I think) standing on the steps to an old gray brick building. This was a great album, especially in terms of arrangements, as were M. F. Horn 1, 2, and 3. Incidentally, you can find recordings of this chart on Napster--at a casual glance this morning 47 turned up. (Use Napster at your own risk, of course, especially with the upcoming appeal decision...) If ANYONE has that old MF CD, I would love to hear from them, just to get a track list from that album. john -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= . johnwasson.com . . ...music solutions . . . . http://www.johnwasson.com . =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:45:45 -0500 From: "stevencarr" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" Message-ID: <009901c09380$ea58d0c0$173d0818@cc938625-a.narltn1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Elton John tune on that Maynard album is "Your Song". Track list: Move Over Fire and Rain Aquarius The Serpent My Sweet Lord Bridge Over Troubled Waters Your Song Stoney End Living in the Past Trombone-L wit Adrian may know some more about this album . . . Steve Carr -----Original Message----- From: john wasson To: Trombones and related issues forum. Date: Saturday, February 10, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" >I am not sure, but I *think* this was recorded on the LP that came out >immediately before "M.F. Horn". The album was simply titled, "Maynard >Ferguson", and also included a great chart on "Stoney End." I remember >the album cover; it showed Maynard (wearing a white or gray suit, I >think) standing on the steps to an old gray brick building. This was a >great album, especially in terms of arrangements, as were M. F. Horn 1, >2, and 3. > >Incidentally, you can find recordings of this chart on Napster--at a >casual glance this morning 47 turned up. >(Use Napster at your own risk, of course, especially with the upcoming >appeal decision...) > >If ANYONE has that old MF CD, I would love to hear from them, just to >get a track list from that album. > >john > >-- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > . johnwasson.com . > . ...music solutions . > . . > . http://www.johnwasson.com . > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:02:11 -0800 From: "Rod Ellard" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" Message-ID: <001001c09383$37e187e0$58e394d1@ellard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is "Fire and Rain" arranged by Kenny Wheeler? Rod ----- Original Message ----- From: stevencarr To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" > The Elton John tune on that Maynard album is "Your Song". > Track list: > Move Over > Fire and Rain > Aquarius > The Serpent > My Sweet Lord > Bridge Over Troubled Waters > Your Song > Stoney End > Living in the Past > > Trombone-L wit Adrian may know some more about this album . . . > > Steve Carr > > -----Original Message----- > From: john wasson > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Date: Saturday, February 10, 2001 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" > > > >I am not sure, but I *think* this was recorded on the LP that came out > >immediately before "M.F. Horn". The album was simply titled, "Maynard > >Ferguson", and also included a great chart on "Stoney End." I remember > >the album cover; it showed Maynard (wearing a white or gray suit, I > >think) standing on the steps to an old gray brick building. This was a > >great album, especially in terms of arrangements, as were M. F. Horn 1, > >2, and 3. > > > >Incidentally, you can find recordings of this chart on Napster--at a > >casual glance this morning 47 turned up. > >(Use Napster at your own risk, of course, especially with the upcoming > >appeal decision...) > > > >If ANYONE has that old MF CD, I would love to hear from them, just to > >get a track list from that album. > > > >john > > > >-- > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > . johnwasson.com . > > . ...music solutions . > > . . > > . http://www.johnwasson.com . > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:34:45 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: New Yeo search engine Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" In response to many requests, I have added a site specific search engine to my website, http://www.yeodoug.com The site has grown to several hundred pages and I want to make it as easy to navigate as possible. The addition of the site specific search engine (which, when you enter search terms, will ONLY search on my site), combined with the complete site index, should help people find what they want more easily. Each page has a "search yeodoug.com" button on the top and bottom. Click it, and you'll go to the search page where you can input your search words, and select some user definable parameters. Searches are weighted (with key words, descriptions, etc) so will give the most significant entries for each search at the top of a results page. I hope this new item is helpful. All the best, -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:12:34 -0500 From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Helping students buy horns Message-ID: <001901c09395$80e86d20$632f3e3f@pauljr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listers: With the abundance of bore sizes and the number of manufacturers out there selling trombones, we as teachers can do our students a great service by helping them find horns. I am ABSOLUTELY convinced that that there are a lot of good used trombones out there that need a good home. Also, depending on the size, age, and maturity of the student, a teacher can be quite helpful the parents of these students find a great horn. I am also completely convinced that a new horn is not always the best way to go. If the horn is not put together properly at the factory, the student will have to have it repaired right away (particularly slide problems) and if there isn't a good repairman in the area, the problem is even more compounded. I have recently had a wonderful experience with a horn that I found for sale on the ONLINE TROMBONE JOURNAL classifieds. The way that I worked the arrangements was: 1) Contact the parents to see if they are in the market for a horn for their son/daughter. Read them the ad as it appears in the classified section of the journal. 2) If the parents give you the go ahead, contact the seller via e-mail to find out if the horn has been sold, and if it hasn't, ask the seller questions, such as age of the horn, why they are selling it, is the slide in good shape, etc. 3) After they respond to you, tell the seller that you have a student that may be interested. Then ask them if they would be willing to send you the horn to inspect. If they say no, then go elsewhere. That turns out to be too much of a crap shoot. If they say yes, then assure the buyer that the horn will not leave your posession unless money changes hands. 4) Once you receive the horn, check the slide to see if works well, and if it has an F-Attachment, see if the linkage rattles, or if the the bell section buzzes when the valve is used. If necessary, clean out the slide, clean out the valve and lubricate the linkage, then play-test the horn again. If the horn plays well, then contact the student's parents and inform them that you have the instrument and tell them your honest opinion of it. If I wouldn't hesitate to play it on the job, then I recommend it to the student. That may sound like a narrow standard, but your reputation at this point is on the line. 5) Contact the seller either by e-mail or telephone and let them know whether or not you approve of the horn. If not, return the horn, and reimburse the seller for shipping charges. Get that money from your student. That's a small price to pay to check out a horn. 6) Have the horn ready for the student to play-test at his next lesson. Let him take his lesson on it. If he likes it, then everyone is happy. You play the horn for your student. In my experience, most students are NOT experienced enough to make an informed decision. 7) Teach the student how to take care of the horn. 8) Receive payment for the instrument, then be sure to forward the payment to the seller. Be prompt about this--remember that your reputation is on the line. If the student's parents absolutely insist on a brand new horn, then offer your services to play-test it. Not all shiny brand new horns play well. Insist that good quality costs a bit more, but is actually cheaper in the long run. Above all--BE VERY HONEST. The student will thank you in the end. Paul Kemp Chattanooga Symphony www.trbnplyr.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:54:50 -0500 From: chardy@totcon.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: trombone for sale cheap Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20010210195450.006a07ac@totcon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a used trombone with a sluggish slide (most probably dirty) and a 7 inch bell. It needs a lead pipe, It is a Conn prototype with NO markings on it anywhere. It has a box case in lousy but usable condition. Comes with a Besson 10 mouthpiece (wow!) $75 includes shipping. Charlie ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:10:37 EST From: NSTARVT@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Conn Stroboconn Tuner Message-ID: <33.1086ff49.27b75cad@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings listers, I still have a Conn StroboTuner and until last year, used it regularly (for many of the reasons previously listed). Mine failed to spin about half way through last year and I found that the bearings supporting the wheel had worn so that the wheel moved back and rubbed against the support structure. I gently, but directly banged the face of the unit down on the table and away it went. It needed to be banged again once a month or so. Take care - STEF ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:05:56 -0600 From: Matt Calvert To: Subject: J.J. Johnson Memorial Scholarship Fund Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, Pardon me if this information has already been sent to the list (it is also on the J.J. Johnson Homepage). A scholarship fund has been opened in J.J.'s honor. Anyone wishing to make a contribution may do so at the following address: J.J. Johnson Memorial Scholarship Fund c/o Bank One 6881 Michigan Road, Northwest Indianapolis, IN 46268 -- Matt Calvert matt@jjjohnson.org ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:41:50 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" Message-ID: <002001c0940e$f38c8720$967c68d5@q9y6f8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My first reply may not have reached the list. Just in case, here it is again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stevencarr" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Maynard's "Don't Let the Sun" > The Elton John tune on that Maynard album is "Your Song". > Track list: > Move Over > Fire and Rain > Aquarius > The Serpent > My Sweet Lord > Bridge Over Troubled Waters > Your Song > Stoney End > Living in the Past > > Trombone-L wit Adrian may know some more about this album . . . This album was #3 (after "MF Horn" & "MF Horn 2") recorded by the British band, entitled "Maynard Ferguson, Alive & Well in London" on the CBS label. Its title was probably changed when released by Columbia in the States. Arrangers were: Keith Mansfield (Move Over, Aquarius, The Serpent, Bridge Over,,,) Kenny Wheeler (Fire and Rain, My Sweet Lord, Your Song) Adrian Drover (Stoney End) John Cameron (Living in the Past) I played on three US tours with the band in the early '70s and remember doing a live TV show in Philly on one of them, but I don't remember "Don't let the Sun" being in the book at that time. It may have been a Jay Chattaway chart from a later period. A. Adrian Drover (ADIOS Scotland) Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk Business: studio@adios.co.uk www.adios.co.uk ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1949--