TROMBONE-L Digest 1947 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Ear plugs, was Sound Shields by "Richardson, Tim" 2) Re: new Conn Bass Trombone by Scott Moore 3) RE: Trombone Content - was religion by "Richardson, Tim" 4) Comparison of Yamaha bass trombones by Dave Molter 5) Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto by Jay Heltzer 6) Re: Kennedy Center audition by Gabriel Langfur 7) Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto by Gabriel Langfur 8) RE: Ear plugs, was Sound Shields by Gabriel Langfur 9) Re: J.J. by "Dennis Clason" 10) Re: Comparison of Yamaha bass trombones by Gabriel Langfur 11) Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) by "Kathy-Green -TJ" 12) Bonetown at TMEA by "Kathy-Green -TJ" 13) Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto by Scott Moore 14) Re: Valve trombone - BOSTON brand. by Howard Weiner 15) contact Holton by chardy@totcon.com 16) this is interesting by Peter Collins & Sara Wilbur 17) Re: contact Holton by Chris Waage 18) Re: this is interesting by BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com 19) Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto by Dave Tall 20) Re: Kennedy Center audition by Gabriel Langfur 21) almost trombone related content... by Peter George Fielding 22) Re: almost trombone related content... by "Gary D. Maxwell" 23) Re: almost trombone related content... by "Gary D. Maxwell" 24) Re: trombone and harp by Douglas Yeo 25) Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) by "Richard Z. Johnson, Jr." 26) Re: Bach 16m by "Emil & Cynthia Orth" 27) Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) by Gabriel Langfur 28) Re: J.J. Johnson- a clarification by "ksdowdy" 29) Re: Bass Trombones and UMI by Scott Moore 30) Holy Land--Theme Park by Agapebassbone@aol.com 31) Trombones and Religion by "Carpenter, Norm" 32) Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) by "Matthew Stoecker" 33) CSO Low Brass Excerpt CD by yardlejw@uwec.edu 34) Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) - off list message by "Richard Zemry Johnson" 35) Re: CSO Low Brass Excerpt CD by Beth Lewis 36) Bach flat or is it me? by Robert A Bates 37) Re: Bach flat or is it me? by "Lisa & Patrick Bates" 38) Re: Bach flat or is it me? by Craig Parmerlee 39) Re: Bach flat or is it me? by Candice & Eric Swanson 40) Tampa repairman by Joestanko@aol.com 41) Thanks by JennWhaa@aol.com 42) J.J. tributes from NPR's Jazz Profiles and Fresh Air by Doug Crane 43) Re: Bach flat or is it me? by "Adrian Drover" 44) Re: Trombones and Religion by "Adrian Drover" ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:02:27 -0500 From: "Richardson, Tim" To: "'Jeff Albert'" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Ear plugs, was Sound Shields Message-ID: <21E592FA8BA7D311B5B100062B001FE206F12B08@LEE2> Shooters use something made by Pelaire (unsure of spelling.) It is a muff style electronic gadget that passes soft noises and lets you carry on a conversation, but cuts off before noise can peak loud enough to hurt. Alas, I have never tried one, and I think they are in the 150 - 200 dollar range US. It might be worth asking around to see if you could borrow one. 'Course then you're probably going to get invited to go hunting or shooting, and cause another ethical crisis on the list. Golf, anyone? yours, Tim Richardson > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Albert [SMTP:jalbert@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:06 PM > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Subject: Ear plugs, was Sound Shields > > Custom made "musicians" earplugs are available from an audiologist. They > are custom fit to your ear, and offer flat frequency cut (theoretically). > They are available with either 15 or 25 db cut, and you can change that by > replacing a filter in the plug. I don't have any (although an audiologist > friend of mine keeps telling me to get some), but I know a few people who > do, and they say they are the best earplug around. For the price, (around > $200) they should be. > > Jeff Albert > > www.jeffalbert.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Pliskin" > To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:34 PM > Subject: RE: Sound Shields > > > > > > In some of the footage of Duke Ellington?s band, last week, the > trombones > > were in front. That also solves the problem of leaving room for slides. > > > > As for earplugs, I?ve always preferred rolled up pieces of bar napkin, > to > > store-bought earplugs. The frequency response is better and it?s easy > to > > fit any shaped ear. > > > > I?d worry, though, that the audience would be distracted, if they > noticed > > the earplugs. > > > > DanP > > > > > > >From: Steve Gamble > > >Reply-To: "orchpers@azstarnet.com" > > >To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > > > >Subject: RE: Sound Shields > > >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:48:41 -0700 > > > > > >Brad, > > > > > >I know I'm a little late responding to your post, but we've been > dealing > > >with the shield (we call them baffles) problem here for several years > now. > > > We've even used OSHA test equipment during one particularly > contentious > > >period as we were trying to come up with a way to protect the folks in > > >front of the loud instruments and not compromise the musical product. > > > > > >While there is plenty to say on this subject, I think there are only a > few > > >important practical things to keep in mind. Our experience is that the > > >most effective sound baffling methods are those that protect each > > >individual. Consequently, we don't use any type of enclosure method. > > > Instead, our baffle of choice is the one made by Wenger and we always > > >have > > >a supply of ear plugs on hand. What makes the Wenger better than the > > >devices that attach to the back of a chair or a music stand placed > behind > > >the musicians head is that it can be adjusted so that the plexiglas is > very > > >close to the back of the head of the musician who needs ear protection. > > > The baffle must be within six inches of the head or it has no > measurable > > >effect. This, of course, is a problem for the trombones. We're stuck > with > > >having to use ear plugs. (Anybody out there have any recommendations > for > > >the perfect ear plugs?) The design of the Wenger is also the least > > >noticable visually from the audience. > > > > > >I'd be happy to put you in touch with people from our orchestra > committee > > >or stage crew or whomever, if you want a more complete picture. > > > > > >Regards > > > > > >Steve Gamble > > >Tucson Symphony > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Brad Howland [SMTP:bhowland@islandnet.com] > > >Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 1:41 PM > > >To: Trombones and related issues forum. > > >Subject: Sound Shields > > > > > >Our orchestra is going through a controversy regarding the use of sound > > >shields in front of the brass. Do any list members play in orchestras > with > > >a > > >written out policy on sound shields, and can you tell me briefly what > that > > >policy is? > > > > > >Many thanks, > > >Brad Howland > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Trombone, Web Design, Income Tax, Brass Music > > >"Specialization is for insects." ...Robert Heinlein > > >E Mail: bradhowland@netzero.net or bhowland@islandnet.com > > >Web Site: http://www.musicforbrass.com > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 07:09:56 -0600 From: Scott Moore To: Subject: Re: new Conn Bass Trombone Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I spoke with Dick Barth (UMI VP) about this at the IWBC this past summer. At that time there is one working prototype out west. This horn was not compared to the old 62H by the factory reps, yet the folks who were ecstatic about the horn were well-known west coast commercial players. It stands to reason that the new horn is a lighter instrument than the usual fare seen from most manufacturers in the USA. It was supposed to have the new Lindberg valves. The instrument that drew a lot of attention was the new tenor with the 9" bell. Seems to me that it should be out by now. D. Scott Moore Bass Trombonist Low Brass, Music Theory Gustavus Adolphus College 507/933-6260 dmoore@gustavus.edu http://www.gustavus.edu/~dmoore > Have any list members heard any information from UMI-Conn concerning when > the new Conn Bass Trombone, patterned after the old 62-H, will hit the > marketplace? Maybe our Texas list-members like Dean and Wayne can get some > information at TMEA, from UMI and Bill Reichenbach. > > Wish I could leave this Ohio snow behind and head to Texas to hear Bonetown > & Bonified Bonetown; however, the SSO has Doc Severinson in for a concert on > Friday & Saturday. I bet you Texans will be in for a real treat! Good luck > Wayne & Dean! > > Denny Seifried > Bass Trombone-Springfield (OH) Symphony & Dayton Jazz Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:17:00 -0500 From: "Richardson, Tim" To: "'Jeffrey Diehl'" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Trombone Content - was religion Message-ID: <21E592FA8BA7D311B5B100062B001FE206F12B09@LEE2> Uh oh, Jeff. You play trombone? Not sufficient information to flame you. Yet. Are you a wimp with a peashooter or a jerk with a cannon? You play that boring symphony stuff? Or weren't you good enough, so you have to play jazz? maybe you even teach? Are you blessed with talent, and stealing all our gigs? Or crummy, giving us all a bad name? Humor! But the point is if you look for the negative you can mad at anybody. Over time the list grows to be a family, and at times it can be a dysfunctional family. I've stayed with it since, oh, about Sept 96, and a number of you were oldtimers when I started. Sometimes a little tolerance has been helpful. Reword that. Are you enlightened enough to play a small bore when warranted? And strong and sensitive enough to get full tone out of a symphonic horn in the right setting? You have the discipline to play legit, or the creativity to play jazz, and vice versa? Talented enough to bring joy, or still struggling valiantly? mandatory religious content: Wish I could get some church gigs. Over time I've talked my church up to $100 each, for our visiting musicians. I play gratis, of course, in my own, don't tell the union. But I'm always in church Sunday. I have Tuesday nights free, please call. yours, Tim Richardson > -----Original Message----- > Oh, yes, the mandatory content: I play the "trombone". Oh no! One of > those > inappropriate comments. I did it myself! > > Jeff Diehl > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 08:19:37 -0500 From: Dave Molter To: trombone-L Subject: Comparison of Yamaha bass trombones Message-ID: <3A829CE9.555FAEFC@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Listers: I played the Yamaha 613H inline bass this weekend and was suitably impressed with the instrument. I found the sound of the horn with triggers in use to be virtually indistinguishable from that of the straight horn. I also found the 613H to be very free blowing, requiring less air than my King Duo Gravis to speak. And it had a remarkably even sound throughout its range. That said, I'm wondering how the 613H compares to the Yamaha 612R and 622, both dependent horns. (I like the dependent valve setup.) The wrap on these horns ins "semi-open," and I'm wondering if this setup is as free and clear as the 613H. I also like the trigger arrangement on the 6R, which has two thumb operated valves. Any opinions on sound from those who have played all three or at least the 613H and one of the others? Dave Molter ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 08:12:36 -0600 From: Jay Heltzer To: JennWhaa@aol.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto Message-ID: <3A82A953.86F2E5FA@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JennWhaa@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone give me a heads up on the solo? I know that there is one but I > haven't seen it before and may have to play it tomorrow. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jen > > Jennifer Wharton > Aspiring musician and professional basket weaver. Glissando's, rude interruptions, and counting. When Nielsen wrote this great work, the soloist and the bass trombonist of his orchestra did NOT get along. Nielsen decided to represent this relationship in the music. Be big with all the dissonant entrances, and be sure to follow the ink on the dynamic differences. Most of all, have fun!!! Its more than just a supporting role. More like sub-solo. jay heltzer ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Kennedy Center audition Message-ID: <20010208153456.50954.qmail@web10314.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not me... Gabe --- Dave Tall wrote: > Has anyone (or their students) heard back from the Kennedy Center > Orchestra > concerning the bass trombone audition? > > > > Dave Tall > Bass Trombonist > New Mexico Symphony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:46:07 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto Message-ID: <20010208154607.62507.qmail@web10306.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jen, The notes are not really very difficult, but you will want to be as familiar with them as possible before rehearsal. The coordination with the soloist is somewhat tricky, and you won't want to be buried in your music stand. Have fun! Gabe --- JennWhaa@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone give me a heads up on the solo? I know that there is one > but I > haven't seen it before and may have to play it tomorrow. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jen > > Jennifer Wharton > Aspiring musician and professional basket weaver. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:48:12 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Ear plugs, was Sound Shields Message-ID: <20010208154812.59500.qmail@web10309.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Richardson, Tim" wrote: > Golf, anyone? Careful! Serious environmental impacts... Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:52:04 -0800 From: "Dennis Clason" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: J.J. Message-ID: <016001c091ef$774389a0$0d2b7b80@nmsu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > *** Jazz musician Johnson kills self > I might be overeacting, but it seems pretty blunt to me. That's because it *is* pretty blunt. Different news outlets handle these sorts of deaths in different ways. Once upon a time, there was a whole collection of euphemisms that were used. If you knew the code, you could figure out more-or-less what happened. Myself, I believe there are things we just don't need to know, and would prefer that the newsies keep details like the method used in suicide to themselves. Like Doug, I've been around long enough to have a few suicides among friends and family. Death is always hard on the survivors, and it's even tougher when death is the result of a suicide. We *are* our network of relationships, these are the things that define us as humans. Destroying an important part of someone's identity seems extremely selfish to me. This is not to say that there are circumstances in which life is unbearable -- I know all too well that there are things worse than death. Dennis ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:57:22 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Comparison of Yamaha bass trombones Message-ID: <20010208155722.62486.qmail@web10310.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've tried all of them for at least a few minutes or a couple of hours. The 613H is a very different instrument from the 622, but the valves are equally free-blowing and easy to play. I'm sure someone else on the list knows more specifically what the differences are other than the valve setup & wrap. The 612R, if it's the horn I'm thinking of, is not nearly as good as the others. I tried one at a convention once & thought it was just awful. Maybe there are better ones out there. You'll probably find that it will be difficult to find a double valve instrument with both levers on the thumb that has benefitted from any new design ideas in the last twenty or so years. Gabe --- Dave Molter wrote: > Listers: > > I played the Yamaha 613H inline bass this weekend and was suitably > impressed with the instrument. I found the sound of the horn with > triggers in use to be virtually indistinguishable from that of the > straight horn. I also found the 613H to be very free blowing, > requiring > less air than my King Duo Gravis to speak. And it had a remarkably > even > sound throughout its range. > > That said, I'm wondering how the 613H compares to the Yamaha 612R and > 622, both dependent horns. (I like the dependent valve setup.) The > wrap > on these horns ins "semi-open," and I'm wondering if this setup is as > free and clear as the 613H. I also like the trigger arrangement on > the > 6R, which has two thumb operated valves. > > Any opinions on sound from those who have played all three or at > least > the 613H and one of the others? > > Dave Molter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 09:18:19 -0800 From: "Kathy-Green -TJ" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu writes: >If any Christians were even remotely put off by my comments, then you >have a >taste of what it's like for non-Christians every day of their lives. >Please >respect that, and keep religious discussions off trombone mailing lists. In would like to heartily second this. As a former very zealous Christian who used to be real obnoxious about spreading gospel and now as a very laid-back near atheist who is frankly embarrassed about some of my behavior years ago, I think our own opinions should stay off any and all listserv groups. My father used to say never discuss politics, religion, or sex if you didn't know everyone in the room, and I think that would put is in real good stead on this list. Kathy Green Bass Trombone Seattle Women's Jazz Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 09:22:37 -0800 From: "Kathy-Green -TJ" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Bonetown at TMEA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to second several comments about wishing to get down to San Antonio this weekend. I was raised and taught in Texas until age 36 and some of my favorite memories were of performing with the ETSU (now Texas A & M at Commerce) Trombone Choir under the direction of Dr. Neill Humfeld (sadly passed away of cancer). Our concerts were always packed and it was such great fun. The TMEA conference is the biggest and best anywhere - our little ones here in the Pacific Northwest don't even come close. I strongly urge any bone players who live anywhere close to go this weekend and make sure to visit "Mi Tierras", a Mexican restaurant - they have the best frozen margaritas in the world! Kathy Green Bass Trombone Seattle Women's Jazz Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:33:17 -0600 From: Scott Moore To: Subject: Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Jennifer: Playing this solo for the first time could be a strange experience if you've never listened to it. You should get a recording. The ensemble is chamber-like in number. You are the only cylindrical brass instrument on the stage, probably seated next to the principal horn (the two of you have some unison lines later). Your solo is not so as much a solo than it is a duet with the flute soloist (and a little percussion). Keep it light and energetic, paying close attention to the steady pulse and the cresc/decrescendos. What's great about the passage is it provides the opportunity to play off of the spirit of the flute soloist. It's been a while since I've played the Nielson... I envy the fun you're going to have! D. Scott Moore Bass Trombonist Low Brass, Music Theory Gustavus Adolphus College 507/933-6260 dmoore@gustavus.edu http://www.gustavus.edu/~dmoore > From: JennWhaa@aol.com > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:34:50 EST > To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu > Subject: Nielsen Flute Concerto > > Can anyone give me a heads up on the solo? I know that there is one but I > haven't seen it before and may have to play it tomorrow. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jen > > Jennifer Wharton > Aspiring musician and professional basket weaver. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:51:27 From: Howard Weiner To: nichols_tim@hotmail.com, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Valve trombone - BOSTON brand. Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010208185127.10672412@mail.privat.toplink.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 07:14 08.02.2001, Tim Nichols wrote: > Does anyone have information regarding the history of the Boston >brand valve trombone? The music store where I work has one, and they would >like to know a little more about it. > It is a "short model" (i.e.- the valve section is considerably >shorter than a conventional slide section, but also somewhat wider.) 3-valve >trombone in C, with pull to B-flat on the main tuning slide. The bell is >8-inches, and the bore seems to be quite large for a valve 'bone (>.500 is >my guess). It appears to be quite old.The bell is engraved "Made For BOSTON >Instrument Manuf." Lyndesay G. Langwill, _An Index of Musical Wind Instrument Makers_, fifth edition, contains the following information: Boston Musical Instrument Manufactory: Boston, U.S.A. 1870 at 71 Sudbury Street: 1900 at 51 Chardon Street. He then lists 4 instruments (but no trombones) in various collections, and gives the following book as a source: Christine Merrick Ayars, _Contributions to the Art of Music in America by the Music Industries of Boston, 1640 to 1936,_ (New York, 1937). Howard -- Howard Weiner weiner@privat.toplink.de http://www.odilia.ch/howard-weiner "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" - attributed to Frank Zappa "Beschriebene Musik ist wie ein erzŠhltes Mittagessen" - Franz Grillparzer zugeschrieben ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:36:22 -0500 From: chardy@totcon.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: contact Holton Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20010208173622.0068d190@totcon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" How can I contact the Holton company directly? Charlie ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 14:01:01 -0500 From: Peter Collins & Sara Wilbur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: this is interesting Message-ID: <3A82ECED.D690EA5A@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi listers, Found this one on the back of "The Globe and Mail" Canada's National Newspaper: "The male classical musician...goes on being a quiet source of interest to female audiences everywhere," writes Oenone Williams in BBC Music Magazine. "His professional image -- from the clothes he wears to the music he plays -- is the stuff of female fantasy. Alas, I can tell you it is only fantasy. Musicians are much like other men, except possibly a tad more egotistical...You know the difference between a large pizza and a professional musician? The pizza can feed a family of four." Ouch! Peter Collins Bass Trombone Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:14:50 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: contact Holton Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" http://www.gleblanc.com/welcomenew/homeset_720.html How can I contact the Holton company directly? Charlie -- ________________________________________________ Chris Waage chris@trombone.org Associate Webmaster The Online Trombone Journal http://www.trombone.org ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:18:43 EST From: BJMCHAFFIE@aol.com To: sarapete@sympatico.ca, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: this is interesting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Probably has been that way for 60 years... Pizza feeding a family of 4 vs a male musician. Economics? Discrimination? beldon wade ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:31:34 -0700 From: Dave Tall To: JennWhaa@aol.com, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Nielsen Flute Concerto Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010208123134.00aee880@mail.sprintmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:34 AM 02/08/2001 EST, you wrote: >Can anyone give me a heads up on the solo? I know that there is one but I >haven't seen it before and may have to play it tomorrow. The piece is something of a dialog (not always polite!) between the solo flute, the clarinet, and the bass trombone. The orchestra is much reduced in the winds; I believe that you and one horn are all the brass. The parts aren't difficult in a technical sense, but IIRC there are some tricky counting spots. Lots of glissandi. I'd recommend getting a recording and a part (or score) and listening through a few times before the first rehearsal. The thing that somewhat unnerved me the most was that with the reduced orchestra, and the importance of the part, I was sitting in the flute section chairs, in the third row of seats from the podium. I was surprised at how much different it is sitting that close to the conductor! ;) Enjoy! I'd love to play that one again. Dave Tall Bass Trombonist New Mexico Symphony ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:40:15 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Kennedy Center audition Message-ID: <20010208194015.7982.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Check that, the package arrived in today's mail, with all the music except the Ewazen Concerto. --- Gabriel Langfur wrote: > Not me... > > Gabe > > --- Dave Tall wrote: > > Has anyone (or their students) heard back from the Kennedy Center > > Orchestra > > concerning the bass trombone audition? > > > > > > > > Dave Tall > > Bass Trombonist > > New Mexico Symphony > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:19:15 -0500 (EST) From: Peter George Fielding To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: almost trombone related content... Message-ID: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi everyone, I have a friend who is looking for music for tuba and harp???? This is a different friend than the one looking for a mouthpiece, that was last week... If any of you know of any pieces for this unique duo, please write me off the list.... thanks in advance, Peter Fielding ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:34:13 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: pfieldin@ionium.it.miami.edu Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: almost trombone related content... Message-ID: <3A8302C5.C855DA6C@bcsd.k12.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter George Fielding wrote: This is a > different friend than the one looking for a mouthpiece, that was last > week... ============================================================ > > If any of you know of any pieces for this unique duo, please write me off > the list.... > > thanks in advance, > > Peter Fielding ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:45:45 -0800 From: "Gary D. Maxwell" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: almost trombone related content... Message-ID: <3A830579.ACF6EAEE@bcsd.k12.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whoops! Didn't mean to send a thing. Guess I just needed to see my name in print. (:>)) ================================================ "Gary D. Maxwell" wrote: ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:45:14 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: trombone and harp Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 3:19 PM -0500 2/8/01, Peter George Fielding wrote: Hi everyone, I have a friend who is looking for music for tuba and harp???? Ronald Barron (Principal trombonist, Boston Symphony) has released an album of duets for trombone and various instruments. Included on the album is a very successful arrangement of the Vaughn Williams "Six Studies in English Folksong" for trombone and harp. Go to: http://www.trombonebarron.com/ for more information, click on "recordings." The recording also includes my arrangement of 8 Preludes, op. 34 of Shostakovich for tenor and bass trombone which is also published by G. Schirmer. -Doug Yeo ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:50:33 -0600 From: "Richard Z. Johnson, Jr." To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) Message-ID: <008401c09210$da842800$32ce4fd8@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I personally don't feel that members have been talking religion to excess! Moreover, to some extent, religion and church will come up on this board. For example, if I state that Wycliffe Gordon's cd, The Gospel Truth, touches me spiritually, would that be crossing some imaginary line? What about if I ask about good arrangements to play in church? If we talk about what music is proper in church services of differing religions, does that violate some rule? Discussions on religion and music is no more taboo than discussions on racism and music or sexism and music. However, I don't see religion ever having been a problem on this board. Quite frankly, we are making much ado about nothing. I don't recall any strenous efforts by anyone to convert anyone else to a certain religion on this list. Members have, in the past, mentioned their strong spirtual belief and I have no fault with that. If things get too far out of line, I'm sure that the list monitor will rein the discussion back in. By the way, what in the world in a "near-atheist?" Sounds kinda like being partially pregnant! Are you an agnostic? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy-Green -TJ" As a former very zealous Christian > who used to be real obnoxious about spreading gospel and now as a very > laid-back near atheist who is frankly embarrassed about some of my > behavior years ago, I think our own opinions should stay off any and all > listserv groups. My father used to say never discuss politics, religion, > or sex if you didn't know everyone in the room, and I think that would put > is in real good stead on this list. > > Kathy Green > Bass Trombone > Seattle Women's Jazz Orchestra > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:55:02 -0600 From: "Emil & Cynthia Orth" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Bach 16m Message-ID: <005001c09219$ca4aa0a0$82731818@midsouth.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Bill, I also have a LT16M and have had the leadpipe replaced using a Bach part...is definately .509. Hope this helps! Regards, Emil ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) Message-ID: <20010208220609.85640.qmail@web10314.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Kathy-Green -TJ wrote: . My father used to say never discuss politics, > religion, > or sex if you didn't know everyone in the room, and I think that > would put > is in real good stead on this list. I'll second that. Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:28:58 -0600 From: "ksdowdy" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: J.J. Johnson- a clarification Message-ID: <002601c0921e$95625ea0$aa3c103f@m2y9x8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very, very well said. KSD ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Yeo To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: Re: J.J. Johnson- a clarification > At 8:43 PM +0000 2/6/01, Christopher Smith wrote: > > > > >I think it is unfortunate that the word "suicide" is being used in > >mentions of J.J. Johnson's passing, because of the connotations and > >questions it brings to mind for everyone who hears it. > >Foremost: Why would he do such a thing? > > Here we venture into a delicate area, even more delicate and > sensitive than the "religion" issue we're bantering around (and, of > course, religion comes into this issue as well). > > I personally don't think the foremost question for any of us to ask > is "Why would he do such a thing?" We don't know, and won't know > unless his family members tell us so, or if JJ left behind > information for us to know as to why. We can't answer it. To > speculate is to simply speculate. We weren't there. > > Another question that some may ask is, "How COULD he do such a thing?" > > I have had two close friends commit suicide, and an immediate family > member as well. I can tell you from my experience (and that of other > family members I know of one who has taken his own life), that WHY is > less the question than HOW (not the "how" of the method, but the "How > COULD you?" question). Religion comes into the picture for many > people, as to whether or not suicide (or whatever you want to call > it) is justifiable in terms of a person taking life/death into > his/her own hands. And when it is over, it is those family members > and close friends left behind who, depending on the how the "How > COULD?" question is answered, can have a huge amount of emotional > "stuff" to deal with. My experience with this is that it matters > greatly whether those left behind in the family are aware of the > intention, that there is an ability to say "goodbye", etc before one > goes through with it in order to have a sense of closure. I don't > know JJ's situation with his family regarding this, apart from > hearing in one article that his wife was quoted as saying, "It was > very devastating." > > No matter how, why or what happened, JJ is gone. He leaves behind a > legacy of music, playing and inspiration which is untarnished by how > he exited this world. Other questions may linger regarding his > passing, but they are not ours to ask - only his family has the right > to ask them if they should be asked at all - and we can pray (those > of us who do pray) that his wife, children and other family have a > sense of resolution and peace in light of events of recent days. > Here's hoping that the many expressions of support coming their way > will help mitigate whatever pain there may be for them, and that the > memory of JJ's influence on the lives of countless players and lovers > of music will burn brightly whenever they think of him. > > -Doug Yeo > > ********************************************** > * Douglas Yeo * > * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * > * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * > * yeo@yeodoug.com * > * http://www.yeodoug.com * > * <>< * > ********************************************** > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:54:56 -0600 From: Scott Moore To: , Subject: Re: Bass Trombones and UMI Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thanks for the clairifacation, Dick. You guys seem to be having too much fun over there (is that possible?). Obviously I got the new tenor and the bass confused with each other. You had some amazing ideas to show off during the IWBC, and I look forward to seeing what Tom comes up with. Steve Wright, who is on our faculty, has one of the prototypes of the new Conn trumpets that came out recently. He's been a big help with my students who were interested in the new CL2000 88H. In fact, one student made a purchase not long ago and he (and I) couldn't be happier. Thanks for bringing such great product back to where it should be. D. Scott Moore Bass Trombonist Low Brass, Music Theory Gustavus Adolphus College 507/933-6260 dmoore@gustavus.edu http://www.gustavus.edu/~dmoore > From: Kingconndb@aol.com > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:48:40 EST > To: dmoore@gustavus.edu (Scott Moore) > Subject: Bass Trombones > > I'm not a VP but thanks for the thought. > The 9" (Kofsky) bell is an 88H with the 98 bell option (9" and bigger > throat). It is available but backordered. This is the horn George Roberts is > playing with the .562/.562 slide. It is the horn Al Kofsky plays with a > .547/.562 slide. It also works nicely for a big sounding tenor with ANY of > the five 88H slide options. Available with CL200 valve or regular open wrap. > The 62H is stacked rotors. NOT CL 2000. Has the old "Fuchs" bell. Klaber has > a prototype bass with TWO inline CL2000 valves, a 10" Sterling silver bell > and a .562/.580 handslide. It is not in the catalog...yet! > Dick Barth ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:06:16 EST From: Agapebassbone@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Holy Land--Theme Park Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_df.101c4de6.27b48068_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline ÊÊI have read in the paper recently of a new theme park being constructed in FL. ÊDoes anyone know anything about this place? ÊSupposedly it is Êa trek through the old testament according to christian beliefs(which has caused problems with the orthodox jewish community). ÊWhat about the music? ÊI don't think a theme park of this nature would carry a high demand for trombones, unless of course they used the martin luther translation. Ê(c: Josh Reynolds ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:57:18 -0500 From: "Carpenter, Norm" To: "Trombones and related issues forum. (E-mail)" Subject: Trombones and Religion Message-ID: <43190586F90AD211899D00A0C9C85DBB05A4D5B9@excuswa001.americas.unity> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0922A.DF8A1868" Hey! Wasn't the Trombone originally referred to as "the Voice of God"? NormÊCarpenter wanna-be trombone player ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:13:38 -0800 From: "Matthew Stoecker" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0000_01C091EA.187FFE30" So, did you hear the one about the republicanÊprotestant nymphomaniac trombone player? :) --Kidding Matthew Stoecker P.S. Hi Gabe! Hope all's well! ----- Original Message ----- From:ÊGabriel Langfur Sent:ÊThursday, February 08, 2001 4:06 PM To:ÊTrombones and related issues forum. Subject:ÊRe: Off topic Discussions (religion) --- Kathy-Green -TJ wrote: . My father used to say never discuss politics, > religion, > or sex if you didn't know everyone in the room, and I think that > would put > is in real good stead on this list. I'll second that. Gabe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:23:26 -0600 From: yardlejw@uwec.edu To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: CSO Low Brass Excerpt CD Message-ID: <004d01c09236$e69b4a80$23bc1c89@uwec.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know if the recording, made in 1971, by the Chicago Symphony low brass section ever made it to cd. If so, where can I find it. If not, is there a place I could look for the LP? Thanks for the help. James Yardley Bass Trombone ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:36:13 -0600 From: "Richard Zemry Johnson" To: "Thomas Smee" , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Off topic Discussions (religion) - off list message Message-ID: <003c01c0916f$87263780$cecf4fd8@zemry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may have offended when I wrote the phrase " By the way, what in the world is a "near-atheist?" Sounds kinda like being partially pregnant! Are you an agnostic?" If I did, I apologize. I did not mean to demean or belittle anyone. I sincerely wanted to know the answer to the question.....I could have phrased it in a better manner however. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:44:09 -0500 (EST) From: Beth Lewis To: yardlejw@uwec.edu Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: CSO Low Brass Excerpt CD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Last I heard, the project was in the hands of Vern Kagarice. If anyone has or finds an LP they should treasure it (if they don't already...); the master was lost (not sure how). Good luck, Beth Lewis On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 yardlejw@uwec.edu wrote: > Does anyone know if the recording, made in 1971, by the Chicago Symphony low > brass section ever made it to cd. If so, where can I find it. If not, is > there a place I could look for the LP? Thanks for the help. > > James Yardley > Bass Trombone > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:47:20 -0500 From: Robert A Bates To: send Subject: Bach flat or is it me? Message-ID: <3A835A38.E6085F6F@voyager.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been playing in isolation in my basement after a hiatus of 20 odd yrs.It has been 3 yrs. since I restarted.For the last year and a half I have been playing a Bach 50t3o. I decided to use a tuner. I found I could not push the tuning slide in far enough to stop it from being flat.Is it me or the horn ?Was the horn built flat or is my lip too loose? Tuner was a Korg at3. I used a ref. pitch from a different source and it seems in cal. What sort of surgery would be reguired if the horn is at fault? ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:30:04 -0500 From: "Lisa & Patrick Bates" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Bach flat or is it me? Message-ID: <00b301c09248$9836c240$52885fd8@plbates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My wife tells me that a Bates can't be flat, we're all round. Must be the horn! We must be related! After about twenty years of not playing, I pulled my 42B out about 3 years ago! And my tuning slide is only out about an eighth of an inch to be in tune. Go Figure! Lisa & Patrick Bates Bates Paint Horses R. R. #3 Bothwell, ON Canada N0P 1C0 (519) 695 - 3711 www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4345 ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert A Bates To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: Bach flat or is it me? > I have been playing in isolation in my basement after a hiatus of 20 odd > yrs.It has been 3 yrs. since I restarted.For the last year and a half I > have been playing a Bach 50t3o. I decided to use a tuner. I found I > could not push the tuning slide in far enough to stop it from being > flat.Is it me or the horn ?Was the horn built flat or is my lip too > loose? Tuner was a Korg at3. I used a ref. pitch from a different source > and it seems in cal. What sort of surgery would be reguired if the horn > is at fault? > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:37:46 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: Subject: Re: Bach flat or is it me? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010208222035.01e8d778@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:47 PM 2/8/2001 -0500, Robert A Bates wrote: I have been playing in isolation in my basement after a hiatus of 20 odd yrs.It has been 3 yrs. since I restarted.For the last year and a half I have been playing a Bach 50t3o. I decided to use a tuner. I found I could not push the tuning slide in far enough to stop it from being flat.Is it me or the horn ?Was the horn built flat or is my lip too loose? Tuner was a Korg at3. I used a ref. pitch from a different source and it seems in cal. What sort of surgery would be reguired if the horn is at fault? It is more likely you than the horn. You didn't mention what mouthpiece you are using, but it is better to start there than by hacking on the instrument. All other things being equal, deeper cups yield a flatter pitch. By moving to a shallow cup, you will bring the pitch up, plus you will probably feel more under control. As your embouchure strengthens, you can move back to the big 'un if you really want to. With a stronger embouchure and improved breath support, you will probably find the pitch more acceptable on the big piece. But you may find that the shallower cup makes the thing sound more like a trombone than a gaggle of geese with sore throats. No offense intended to goose lovers out there. :) If you are already using something like a Bach 3 or smaller, then please disregard my message. The problem must lie elsewhere. If you are using something equivalent to a Bach 1-1/2 or Schilke 59, you will probably do better with a smaller one for now. If you need the wide rim in order to play the bass range effectively, there are a few (very few) mouthpieces that have a nice wide rim diameter together with a cup that is sensibly small. The point is that it is the cup volume (i.e. depth) much more than rim diameter or throat bore that affects the pitch. I'm not familiar enough with the Bach numbers, but I assume the "t" is for Thayer. If you are playing on Thayers, you may not be getting enough resistance for your embouchure and physique. A tighter leadpipe or mouthpiece throat bore might balance things up a little better for you. Good luck, Craig ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:05:38 -0500 From: Candice & Eric Swanson Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Bach flat or is it me? Message-ID: <3A836C91.5C2F4383@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert A Bates wrote: > ....................For the last year and a half I > have been playing a Bach 50t3o. I decided to use a tuner. I found I > could not push the tuning slide in far enough to stop it from being > flat.Is it me or the horn ?Was the horn built flat or is my lip too > loose? ......... What sort of surgery would be reguired if the horn > is at fault? Robert, First, you might take a few lessons with a good bass trombone player to rule out the possibility that it could be you. I mean, just to be sure you're not doing anything's really incorrect with your face. Then: Depending on the player and the mouthpiece, it is fairly common for Bach basses to be a little flat (or in tune with the slide all the way in) in my experience. My 50B with Thayers and a Schilke 60 had to be cut off quite a bit. I often cut the tuning slide about 10 mm on Bach basses. You'll have to estimate how much you'll need to cut to get up to pitch, and then add a little more so you'll be pulled out a little. A good repair technician should be able to handle it for you. I suggest cutting off the inner and outer tuning slide tubes (not cutting the crook since it's tapered), the trim rings can be reinstalled so it doesn't look like it's been cut off. Good luck, Eric Swanson ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:19:55 EST From: Joestanko@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Tampa repairman Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_dc.21bc012.27b4d7fb_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline Can anyone recommend a repairman in the Tampa, FL area? If so, please email me privately. Thanks. Joe Stanko ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:54:10 EST From: JennWhaa@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Thanks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all. Just wanted to let you know that your comments and efax.com enabled me to get a hold of the Nielsen late last night. I did not crash and burn and actually got a compliment from a clarinetist (imagine that!). Thanks again to all who replied. The piece makes a lot more sense now that I understand what the premise of it is. Jen ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:43:46 -0700 From: Doug Crane To: "Trombones and related issues forum." , Subject: J.J. tributes from NPR's Jazz Profiles and Fresh Air Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010209002549.009fadc0@pop.rmi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed National Public Radio is offering the following tributes to J.J. Johnson. If your local NPR affiliate carries Jazz Profiles, a special feed was offered this week of a program that aired in October of 1997. Consult your local NPR station as to whether they plan to air it and when. _______________ "JAZZ PROFILES" 10-2-97 PROGRAM DESCRIPTION: James Louis 'J.J.' Johnson He was the father of the modern jazz trombone and a major improviser, composer and arranger. J.J. came along at a time when jazz was evolving from big band swing to small group bebop in the mid-40s. What alto saxophonist Charlie Parker and trumpeter Dizzy Gillespie did for their instruments, J.J. Johnson did for the trombone, adapting it to the new music's complex harmonies, rhythms and melodies. Drummer Max Roach and trombonists Robin Eubanks, Steve Turre, Bill Watrous, David Baker and Slide Hampton pay tribute. Produced by David Tarnow. Series producer is Tim Owens/Cultural Programming - National Public Radio. _____________ Fresh Air presented a short excerpt of a J.J. interview from the late 1980's this past Wednesday. You can find Fresh Air's archives by following the links at www.npr.org. J.J.'s segment begins roughly 40 minutes into the show. Real Audio feeds are available of Fresh Air broadcasts from the last few years. Fresh Air 2/6/01 J.J. JOHNSON, a pioneer of the modern jazz trombone died Sunday at his home in Indianapolis. He was 77. JOHNSON was considered the definitive trombonist of the bebop generation. He played with the Count Basie Orchestra, Benny Carter, Dizzy Gillespie, Wood Herman, and Miles Davis, often balancing that with leading his own band. Later in life, JOHNSON moved to Hollywood to work as a composer and arranger for television. (REBROADCAST from 12/14/87) Doug Crane dcrane@rmi.net Volunteer Jazz DJ KUVO Denver 89.3 FM ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:21:03 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Bach flat or is it me? Message-ID: <00cc01c09279$ba9503c0$2e96fc3e@q9y6f8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert A Bates" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:47 AM Subject: Bach flat or is it me? Bach flat? Maybe it was the fault of that equal tempered keyboard gizmo he used to play on. A. Adrian Drover (ADIOS Scotland) Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk Business: studio@adios.co.uk www.adios.co.uk ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:21:10 -0000 From: "Adrian Drover" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Trombones and Religion Message-ID: <00cd01c09279$be7af080$2e96fc3e@q9y6f8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Carpenter, Norm To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:57 PM Subject: Trombones and Religion >>>>>>>> Hey! Wasn't the Trombone originally referred to as "the Voice of God"? >>>>>>>> That's not what my neighbour calls it when I practice early on a Sunday morning. A. Adrian Drover (ADIOS Scotland) Personal: adrian@adios.co.uk Business: studio@adios.co.uk www.adios.co.uk ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1947--