TROMBONE-L Digest 1916 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Crumb: Star Child by Scott Moore 2) Diaphragm by Earl Needham 3) Re: Bore size variation in small bore range by sabutin@mindspring.com 4) gig bag question by Peter Collins & Sara Wilbur 5) Re: Diaphragm by AlRobnett@aol.com 6) Re: Diaphragm by Pat Quinn 7) Re: Joseph Alessi and a Grammy Nominee! by john wasson 8) Re: Required audition solo (was: Sachse) by Gabriel Langfur 9) Re: Bore size variation in small bore range by "Daniel Pliskin" 10) Re: Bore size variation in small bore range by "ksdowdy" 11) Re: Bore size variation in small bore range by Richard Corliss 12) Re: Diaphragm by Anders.Carlsson@gfs.gu.se (Anders Carlsson) 13) Re: tenor tbones by hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za 14) Re: TMEA Performances by "Josh Grisham" 15) Re: Trombone-L chat room / help wanted by hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za 16) Re: Womanly mouthpieces by hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za 17) Re: Womanly mouthpieces by Neobopr@aol.com 18) movie recommendations? by "Douglas Kilen" 19) Re: movie recommendations? by Jonathan A Szopinski 20) Re: movie recommendations? by "tbone" 21) Horns for sale by SFTrombone@aol.com 22) Re: gig bag question by Mark Vincenzes 23) Re: Diaphragm by DenBlose@aol.com 24) Anagram tune by "Nick Drozdoff" 25) Re: movie recommendations? by Brandon VanSickle 26) RE: movie recommendations? by yardlejw@uwec.edu 27) Forgot my proofreading glasses by Brandon VanSickle 28) What a weekend! by Earl Needham 29) Blue Bros. by "Jeff Albert" 30) RE: Movie Recommendations by Randy Campora 31) Re: movie recommendations? by "tbone" 32) Re: movie recommendations? by "Ben Gurton" 33) Re: movie recommendations? by MasterCoda@aol.com 34) Re: movie recommendations? by Richard Corliss 35) Re: movie recommendations? by "Chad Horsley" 36) Re: movie recommendations? by Peter Soukup 37) Re: movie recommendations? by Michael & Dava Millar 38) Re: Required audition solo (was: Sachse) by "Edwin Miller" 39) Re: gig bag question by Jay Heltzer 40) Re: gig bag question by "Edwin Miller" 41) Re: gig bag question by "Jeff Albert" 42) Re: Bore size variation in small bore range by sabutin@mindspring.com 43) Re: Required audition solo (was: Sachse) by "Tom Izzo" 44) Anderson Plating by "Dilshad Kasmani" 45) Re: movie recommendations? by Closetbn@aol.com 46) The Music Man by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Marius_Helg=E5?= Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:52:04 -0600 From: Scott Moore To: Subject: Crumb: Star Child Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Star-Child is a work of Biblical proportions that incorporates a lengthy trombone solo/obligato with the soprano. The solo is quite difficult, reminding you of Joe's performance of the Rousse Concerto, but adds mute effects and a little singing by the soloist. Tony Chipurn was one of the only trombonists who could nail this piece effectively, as I remember hearing him play it back in the mid-80's. It caused me, as a grad student, to change my idea of what a trombone is capable of doing. There are other "bootleg" recordings out there, but none came close to Tony's rendition, and I am confident that Joe has set a new standard now that his recording is out. More on the piece- Think of it as a spiritual version of "A Brief History of Time." Children's choir, Large chorus, three antiphonal trumpets, four or five conductors, all sorts of percussion (chains, bowed cymbals, etc.). I strongly encourage you to pick up this recording! Aaron, you are right in that this piece is very much like other Crumb works, yet I think it is the most effective thing he produced. D. Scott Moore Bass Trombonist Low Brass, Music Theory Gustavus Adolphus College 507/933-6260 dmoore@gustavus.edu http://www.gustavus.edu/~dmoore ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:36:35 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Diaphragm Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010107083448.00ae39d0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Anybody remember our discussion from several years ago about whether the diaphragm pulls air in or pushes it out? Well, now I'm getting static from someone on a hiking list, and he claims that the diaphragm forces air out. He's pretty set in his thoughts, and my statement of the true nature doesn't faze him. Where is any proof that I can get to him? Perhaps a web page or something... Thanks, Earl Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34d 25.446m W103d 12.700m (or so) Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, you breathe...) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:41:11 -0500 From: sabutin@mindspring.com To: noseki@attglobal.net Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Bore size variation in small bore range Message-ID: <200101071542.KAA17953@tisch.mail.mindspring.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:04 PM 1/6/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi listers, > >I just wanted to hear your opinions regarding bore size variation not >for large but small between maybe .485 and .509. What kind of tendency >would be thought for volume range, flexibility, timbre, response speed >etc.....? > >I'm not asking which is best. I just want to know its tendency if it >exists. > > >I'll try .490, .490/.500, .500 and .508 by myself at Lawler Trombone >late this month then I 'll write something to the list. > >Thank you in advance. > >Nobu Seki >Dublin, OH ====================== These bore sizes, from .490 through .490/.500, .500 and .508 (and don't forget other dual bore setups...the classic Bach 16 .500/.509, the amazing Conn Burkle 32H .500./525...) are almost a universe unto themselves. Add bell sizes (very important !!!), alloys, lacquer (or plating or no lacquer), slide weights, leadpipes, and the different permutations and combinations of all these things w/m'pces (and the DEPTH that individual m'pces go into individual leadpipes...an area almost never mentioned but of GREAT importance) and there are almost no characteristics that can be said to be common among these sizes of horn. What CAN be said...? The smaller the bore of the horn, the less air it will take to fill it up. (It will take less air to play the same phrase than a larger horn.) As a corollary, it will also become "brighter"earlier in the dynamic spectrum than an equivalent horn w/a larger bore. The smaller the horn, the more it will favor the upper register in terms of effort, and the harder it will be to play in the lower register. (We're already on shaky ground here...I'm just generalizing. Design and balance have as much to do w/this as size. I have played .485 Conn 4Hs that have very easy and good sounding 2cd partials (low Bb etc), and the best high range horn at volume that I own is a Conn 32H that's .500/.525.) Maybe it's better to say what these size horns have been used to play over the past century. Before amplification and recording became very important parts of music making, .485-.500 bore horns were the norm. Military bands, jazz groups, orchestral/band virtuoso soloists...turn of the century through the /20s, that was what was used, for the most part. There WERE orchestral horns in the .525 -.547 range, but my understanding is that they were fairly rare. Even basses were often as small as .525/.547. Gradually, through the '30s, horns got bigger. In jazz, first .500 bore in the '40s and '50s (Conn 6Hs, Bill Harris, Teagarden), then .509 in the '60s and '70s (King 3Bs, J.J. Johnson et al). In orchestral music, the dominant first trombone choices seem to have been .525 Conn 78Hs for many years, replaced w/.547 Conn 88Hs through the '50s and '60s, then .547 Bach 42s. Maybe the best way to generalize about these bores is to identify the people who played them. As far as the sizes of which you speak...horns somewhere around the .485 area were played by Simone Mantia, Arthur Pryor, Teagarden in his earlier years, Dorsey, Lawrence Brown for a while, Trummy Young also for a while, Britt Woodman, Urbie Green at his peak, and such contemporary players as John Fedchock, Gary Valente and Jiggs Whigham. .500 players have included Bill Harris, later Teagarden (Lawrence Brown and Trummy Young, too, I believe), Frank Rosolino, Dick Nash, Wayne Andre, Billy Byers...LOTS of studio players through the '50s and '60s particularly, because it's a size that is fairly easy to play physically but still doesn't close down too much in the low range. Jim Pugh is playing a .500 bore now, for example. .509...?? J.J Johnson and Bill Watrous, to name two off the top of my head (and almost all of their imitators), most of the great Latin players for years...Barry Rogers, Jose Rodrigues, Papo Vasquez, to name a few (all King 3Bs), and many more fine studio and general business players...Keith O'Quinn, Dave Bargeron...hundreds... The .509 bore closes down even LESS in the low register than the .500, as a general rule, but takes a little more effort and is a little bit harder to control in the high register (unless played very softly in the Watrous manner). There you have it, from someone who played (and played with people who played) primarily .509 and .500 horns for a number of years. Depends on what you want out of a horn, but unless you're playing almost exclusively lead work, I don't recommend anything smaller than a .500 bore in today's world. .500s are generally easier and brighter, .509s are generally a little more effort, better in the low range, w/a "better" sound (not that they sound "better", just that their sound is naturally a little bigger and fuller...depends on what YOU play like). Try 'em all... Good luck... S. P.S. 8" bells seem to be the norm here...99% of the people who play smaller horns use 8" bells. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:55:47 -0500 From: Peter Collins & Sara Wilbur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: gig bag question Message-ID: <3A589183.781804A7@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry if some of you have seen this already, it didn't seem to make it through the first time I sent it. Hi list, I have a silly question but one for which I have never been able to find an answer. I am cleaning up my basement in preparation for laying a new floor and came across part of my Reunion Blues gig bag. I bought a new one a couple of years ago, the one with the slide compartment on the inside and it came with a fabric covered foam block with velcro on it. I have never been able to figure out what that is for. I have an Edwards bass trombone that fits quite snugly in the bag and this block just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Any ideas? Your help is much appreciated. Peter Collins Bass Trombone Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:16:13 EST From: AlRobnett@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Diaphragm Message-ID: <54.e4ff2e6.2789f04d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/01 9:38:40 AM Central Standard Time, KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG writes: > Anybody remember our discussion from several years ago about whether > the diaphragm pulls air in or pushes it out? I've never understood why it would matter to anyone other than a surgeon. When people say "support the tone with your diaphragm", they probably mean with a firm contraction of the muscles in the lower part of your body. A baby learns to do this when it first sees daylight. Later refinements determine which way the expulsion goes. I believe that, once again, the phrase is meant to evoke imagery, not to be a statement of demonstrable fact. I take it to mean, "tighten down below, not up above". I wouldn't know how to exercise my diaphragm if my life depended on it. Allen ( 8< o) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:36:09 -0800 From: Pat Quinn To: KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Diaphragm Message-ID: <3A589AF9.30401@netmagic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here you go: http://www.breathing.com/articles/diaphragm-development.htm http://www.innerbody.com/text/musc82.html Earl Needham wrote: Anybody remember our discussion from several years ago about whether the diaphragm pulls air in or pushes it out? Well, now I'm getting static from someone on a hiking list, and he claims that the diaphragm forces air out. He's pretty set in his thoughts, and my statement of the true nature doesn't faze him. Where is any proof that I can get to him? Perhaps a web page or something... Thanks, Earl Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34d 25.446m W103d 12.700m (or so) Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, you breathe...) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:58:31 -0600 From: john wasson To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Joseph Alessi and a Grammy Nominee! Message-ID: <3A58A02A.6D3DFCDF@johnwasson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the link to the grammy site. I also went there and burned a little time. It is amazing to see not only what is nominated this year, but the previous winners over the years (the first grammy awards were in 1958). I did a search of jazz genre for each year, one at a time, and was blown away at the results. Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Chick Corea, and more recently, Michael Brecker and Pat metheny were big winners on a number of occasions. The link to the search page is: http://www.grammy.com/awards/search.php3 You can put in one genre and then do "all" categories for a particular year, but I wasn't able to put in all-all-all, as it broke the database. Happy hunting! john -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= . johnwasson.com . . ...music solutions . . . . http://www.johnwasson.com . =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:04:15 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel Langfur To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Required audition solo (was: Sachse) Message-ID: <20010107170415.5515.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Aaron Roth wrote: > The piece to which Gabe was referring in his second > post, if I have a > functional memnory, is the Prelude and Dance by > Premru. EXACTLY Gabe PS: I think at another recent bass trombone audition (Nashville? Knoxville? somewhere in TN I think) they asked for the 5th Suite Sarabande IN TENOR CLEF 8VB!!!!! What's that about? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 17:43:55 From: "Daniel Pliskin" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Bore size variation in small bore range Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html I believe that much of the discussion, comparing small bore trombones with large bore trombones ignores the change in mouthpiece size, usually associated with the change in horns. I find that the tone stays fairly consistent, when I swap between small bore and large bore horns, using a shank converter and the same mouthpiece. That isnât to say that youâll get any volume out of a small bore horn with a large cup mouthpiece, but the tone will be that mellow tone one expects with a larger mouthpiece. Come to think of it, I should take my small shank Schilke 51 out for when I play duets with a classical guitarist friend. DanP Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:15:48 -0600 From: "ksdowdy" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Bore size variation in small bore range Message-ID: <003e01c078d5$fa2d16c0$14190f3f@m2y9x8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C078A3.91C0ADE0" Dan, Good point. One of the most mellow, dark sounding horns that I have is a .485 Reynolds, no lacquer, with 7 inch bell. The slide is very smooth (thanks to Dr. Upchurch), but very heavy. The brass is also very sturdy. The horn easily outweighs my King 3B. When played quietly, it almost sounds like a French Horn. However, when you really stomp on it, she has quite an edge. I really like the change in character that this horn produces across its range. It really lets me express myself. My King, which I end up playing most often for many reasons, sounds rather bright throughout its dynamic range. Most Bach 42s that I have played and heard sound dark and muddy throughout their whole range. That old Reynolds (and the similar Olds models that I have tried) seem to have the most change in character depending on how they are played. I like this. Most guys that I talk to don't. They would rather have a horn that plays the same from ppp to fff. Guess that is why they don't make the Reynolds and Olds anymore. Just my observation. KSD ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Pliskin To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: Re: Bore size variation in small bore range >I just wanted to hear your opinions regarding bore size variation not >for large but small between maybe .485 and .509. What kind of tendency >would be thought for volume range, flexibility, timbre, response speed IÕve been playing small-bore horns lately and I find that there are two major things to look for. The first is what size bell do you want? IÕve got small bore horns with bells that range from 7 inches to 8 inches. I think that the smaller bells give the horn a more whispery/growly sound. That sound may just be that you can hear more of the high frequencies, coming out of the bell, but I like it. The second thing to consider is how heavy the hand slide is. I think that a lot of what makes the tone comes from the rigidity of the hand slide. The stiffer the hand slide the purer the tone. Lately, I prefer Bueschers. They have heavy slides and smaller bells. IÕm not at all trying to suggest that you SHOULD want a horn with a heavy slide and small bell, I just think that those two parameters greatly effect the tone and should be considered, in choosing an instrument. DanP Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:40:50 -0600 From: Richard Corliss To: sabutin@mindspring.com, Trombone-l mailing Subject: Re: Bore size variation in small bore range Message-ID: <3A58B832.485E1E5E@astound.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sam, a great informative post! I have one comment to add. You mention that the .500 are more difficult in the lower ranges than the .509's. I commonly use a .500" 48h slide with a 11c mouthpiece and found that switching to a Bach 6 1/2A for the lower ranges is not a difficult transition and improves the sound significantly. Richard Corliss sabutin@mindspring.com wrote: > At 04:04 PM 1/6/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi listers, > > > >I just wanted to hear your opinions regarding bore size variation not > >for large but small between maybe .485 and .509. What kind of tendency > >would be thought for volume range, flexibility, timbre, response speed > >etc.....? > > > >I'm not asking which is best. I just want to know its tendency if it > >exists. > > > > > >I'll try .490, .490/.500, .500 and .508 by myself at Lawler Trombone > >late this month then I 'll write something to the list. > > > >Thank you in advance. > > > >Nobu Seki > >Dublin, OH > > ====================== > > These bore sizes, from .490 through .490/.500, .500 and .508 (and don't > forget other dual bore setups...the classic Bach 16 .500/.509, the amazing > Conn Burkle 32H .500./525...) are almost a universe unto themselves. Add > bell sizes > (very important !!!), alloys, lacquer (or plating or no lacquer), slide > weights, leadpipes, and the different permutations and combinations of all > these things w/m'pces (and the DEPTH that individual m'pces go into > individual leadpipes...an area almost never mentioned but of GREAT > importance) and there are almost no characteristics that can be said to be > common among these sizes of horn. > > What CAN be said...? > > The smaller the bore of the horn, the less air it will take to fill it > up. (It will take less air to play the same phrase than a larger horn.) As > a corollary, it will also become "brighter"earlier in the dynamic spectrum > than an equivalent horn w/a larger bore. > > The smaller the horn, the more it will favor the upper register in terms > of effort, and the harder it will be to play in the lower register. (We're > already on shaky ground here...I'm just generalizing. Design and balance > have as much to do w/this as size. I have played .485 Conn 4Hs that have > very easy and good sounding 2cd partials (low Bb etc), and the best high > range horn at volume that I own is a Conn 32H that's .500/.525.) > > Maybe it's better to say what these size horns have been used to play > over the past century. > > Before amplification and recording became very important parts of music > making, .485-.500 bore horns were the norm. Military bands, jazz groups, > orchestral/band virtuoso soloists...turn of the century through the /20s, > that was what was used, for the most part. There WERE orchestral horns in > the .525 -.547 range, but my understanding is that they were fairly rare. > Even basses were often as small as .525/.547. > > Gradually, through the '30s, horns got bigger. > > In jazz, first .500 bore in the '40s and '50s (Conn 6Hs, Bill Harris, > Teagarden), then .509 in the '60s and '70s (King 3Bs, J.J. Johnson et al). > > In orchestral music, the dominant first trombone choices seem to have > been .525 Conn 78Hs for many years, replaced w/.547 Conn 88Hs through the > '50s and '60s, then .547 Bach 42s. > > Maybe the best way to generalize about these bores is to identify the > people who played them. As far as the sizes of which you speak...horns > somewhere around the .485 area were played by Simone Mantia, Arthur Pryor, > Teagarden in his earlier years, Dorsey, Lawrence Brown for a while, Trummy > Young also for a while, Britt Woodman, Urbie Green at his peak, and such > contemporary players as John Fedchock, Gary Valente and Jiggs Whigham. > > .500 players have included Bill Harris, later Teagarden (Lawrence Brown > and Trummy Young, too, I believe), Frank Rosolino, Dick Nash, Wayne Andre, > Billy Byers...LOTS of studio players through the '50s and '60s > particularly, because it's a size that is fairly easy to play physically > but still doesn't close down too much in the low range. Jim Pugh is playing > a .500 bore now, for example. > > .509...?? J.J Johnson and Bill Watrous, to name two off the top of my > head (and almost all of their imitators), most of the great Latin players > for years...Barry Rogers, Jose Rodrigues, Papo Vasquez, to name a few (all > King 3Bs), and many more fine studio and general business players...Keith > O'Quinn, Dave Bargeron...hundreds... The .509 bore closes down even LESS in > the low register than the .500, as a general rule, but takes a little more > effort and is a little bit harder to control in the high register (unless > played very softly in the Watrous manner). > > There you have it, from someone who played (and played with people who > played) primarily .509 and .500 horns for a number of years. > > Depends on what you want out of a horn, but unless you're playing almost > exclusively lead work, I don't recommend anything smaller than a .500 bore > in today's world. > > .500s are generally easier and brighter, .509s are generally a little > more effort, better in the low range, w/a "better" sound (not that they > sound "better", just that their sound is naturally a little bigger and > fuller...depends on what YOU play like). > > Try 'em all... > > Good luck... > > S. > > P.S. 8" bells seem to be the norm here...99% of the people who play > smaller horns use 8" bells. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:57:10 +0200 From: Anders.Carlsson@gfs.gu.se (Anders Carlsson) To: AlRobnett@aol.com Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu ("Trombones and related issues forum.") Subject: Re: Diaphragm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit AlRobnett@aol.com skriver: >I've never understood why it would matter to anyone other than a >surgeon. >When people say "support the tone with your diaphragm", they probably >mean >with a firm contraction of the muscles in the lower part of your body. >A baby >learns to do this when it first sees daylight. Later refinements >determine >which way the expulsion goes. >I believe that, once again, the phrase is meant to evoke imagery, not >to be a >statement of demonstrable fact. I take it to mean, "tighten down below, >not >up above". I wouldn't know how to exercise my diaphragm if my life >depended >on it. Is this this for real or don't I get the joke? /Anders Carlsson ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:04:30 +0200 From: hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za To: "Trombone-L" , Subject: Re: tenor tbones Message-ID: <008401c078ed$b105bf20$9548ef9b@co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Peter, Highschool is not the time to choose an instrument, unless you're planning to buy one again after college, which you don't seem to consider. By the time you finished college, your demands on a trombone will be vastly different from now, trust me on that one. So my advice to you is to stick to your Bach 42 - those are very good instruments, and unless it's falling apart, no harm will be done by sticking to your horn. BUT if you are going to buy one now, no matter what, I think you've gotten some good advice so far. Do try the Yamaha 682G and 682B too - fantastic instruments and vastly under rated! Good luck HAns ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Saturday, 23, December, 2000 03:17 Subject: tenor tbones > Hi, my name is Peter. I play tenor trombone in high school, and currently > have a good ol' bach 42 BOG. Yeh, so I'm kinda wanting to step up to a really > nice horn that'll last me for the rest of my life, or at least 'til I go pro > :). I'm debating about what to go w/ though, heard many good things about > custom edwards, conn 88-h, etc. So i'm just wondering what your opinions on > these (or any other really nice horns) are. What do most of you guys play on? > Many thanks, and have a wonderful Christmas! > Peter > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:09:27 -0600 From: "Josh Grisham" To: "Trombone-L" Subject: Re: TMEA Performances Message-ID: <000b01c078ee$22594840$58c2fea9@netjava.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To those of you who were interested in viewing TMEA schedules, you can view some right now at http://www.mediashoppe.com/tmea/ I have posted the General Membership schedule for now, and plan to type up an All-State concerts schedule this evening. If any others are wanted, please let me know. Thanks, - Josh Grisham ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:12:21 +0200 From: hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za To: "Trombone-L" , Subject: Re: Trombone-L chat room / help wanted Message-ID: <015301c078f7$1e8a28c0$9548ef9b@co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, someone brought up the idea in '98, but I don't think it ever took off. I personally think the best place to do that is on IRC on the UNDERNET network. That's the only network I've never had any trouble connecting to. Aslo, America is about the only place in the world where the PC doesn't rule and where internet access is so damn cheap. On this side of the Atlantic we pay through our ears, so we keep to what we know work. And I saw a Mac for the first time in my life just two weeks ago. I AM going to buy it, one day when I can afford it... Lemme know if you set up something Hans P.S. Do you have those mp3s on a website, or do you plan to mail them? I'd like to hear, but let me know how big they are first. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:12:41 +0200 From: hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za To: "Trombone-L" Subject: Re: Womanly mouthpieces Message-ID: <015501c078f7$23c76820$9548ef9b@co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't Raymond Premru use the equivalent of a Bach 2 (or even smaller)? I regularly play with a tenor player who uses a Wick 5AL in his 88H, and with that setup he would put a lot of very fine bass trombonists to shame... This reminds me of something. I've often wondered if it should be easier (theoretically) for someone with a small face and thin lips to get a big sound out of a smaller mouthpiece, than it would be for someone with big lips? Hans > Here's an answer -- > > What does George Roberts (AKA "Mr. Bass Trombone") use for a > mouthpiece? I've always been told is a Bach 1 1/2 G. > > Earl > > > Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34d 25.446m W103d 12.700m (or so) > > Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, > you breathe...) > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:38:20 EST From: Neobopr@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Womanly mouthpieces Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/01 6:07:59 PM, hanstrombonist@ananzi.co.za writes: <> I find that since the measurement across the corner of my lips is so small (side to side), and the fact that my lips are relatively thin, that I tend to get this very effect. For comparison, if anyone is interested, take a look at the MP's I use with my various horns. Trombonically yours, Artist/Clinician for Yamaha: Jeff Adams ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:11:50 -0600 From: "Douglas Kilen" To: "trombone-L" Subject: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <003501c07907$9a049f20$8f12e0d1@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings fellow trombonists I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks for your replies! Doug Kilen ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:23:10 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan A Szopinski To: Douglas Kilen Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gladiator is an awsome flick. it has a very excellent soundtrack and a lot of very sweet action. It doesn't involve trombone, but it is very good. Szopinski On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Douglas Kilen wrote: > Greetings fellow trombonists > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks > for your replies! > > Doug Kilen > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:08:30 -0600 From: "tbone" To: "Trombone-L" Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <000d01c0790f$85e324a0$aad0aa3f@susanc> The only music related movie that's coming to my mind is Mr. Holland's Opus, which is a great movie! Josh Thomas 9th Grade Trombone Winfield City High School ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Kilen" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: movie recommendations? > Greetings fellow trombonists > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks > for your replies! > > Doug Kilen > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:28:51 EST From: SFTrombone@aol.com To: Trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Horns for sale Message-ID: <4a.fc6ff2d.278a71d3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have several trombones for sale: New Getzen 1050 Eterna jazz tenor trombone, .500" bore, lightweight yellow brass slide, 7 3/4" yellow brass bell, soldered bead, includes mouthpiece and factory warranty, _without_ case. This is a great playing horn, very similar to the Conn 6HLT, 100H or Minick 100 horns, a little brighter than a Bach 16M or King 3B. It's the same as the Edwards version, but comes with one leadpipe soldered in. This horn is brand new. I can get a case or gig bag for it if you like, or sell without. $850 plus shipping. Larry Minick custom bass trombone, used, made from mostly Conn parts, .562" bore standard weight slide, nickel crook, stacked valves in F and D, open wrap, 9.5" red brass bell (Conn 62H bell), tuning in the bell section, includes Minick leadpipe and Conn hardcase, no mouthpiece. No dents, but a few portions of lacquer are worn, at the valves, and on the handslide grips, otherwise, it's perfect. One joint near the F attachment and bell has been resoldered (common on this type of horn). Made in 1978. $2000 plus shipping. Soon, I will have some bargain prices on new Getzen 1047, 1052, and 1062 trombones, and a new Edwards jazz tenor, similar to the 1050 above. I wll also receive 4 Shires trombones later this month. Email me for details. These horns are in Los Angeles. I'll give a two week trial period and will ship within the US. Thanks for your interest, Steve Ferguson sftrombone@aol.com http://members.aol.com/sftrombone/index.htm ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:50:04 -0500 From: Mark Vincenzes To: sarapete@sympatico.ca Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: gig bag question Message-ID: <3A591CCC.43F6F03D@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There should be some velcro strips on the slide compartment itself. The block fastens to the slide compartment to allow for snugging up the fit inside the bacg, so things don't move around. I used it for my double inline bass in such a way that the block rests in the void between the tuning slides of the attachments and the end of the bag. -Mark Vincenzes Peter Collins & Sara Wilbur wrote: > > Sorry if some of you have seen this already, it didn't seem to make it > through the first time I sent it. > > Hi list, > > I have a silly question but one for which I have never been able to find > an answer. > > I am cleaning up my basement in preparation for laying a new floor and > came across part of my Reunion Blues gig bag. I bought a new one a > couple of years ago, the one with the slide compartment on the inside > and it came with a fabric covered foam block with velcro on it. I have > never been able to figure out what that is for. I have an Edwards bass > trombone that fits quite snugly in the bag and this block just doesn't > seem to make sense to me. Any ideas? > > Your help is much appreciated. > > Peter Collins > Bass Trombone > Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:53:05 EST From: DenBlose@aol.com To: KD5XB@amsat.org Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Diaphragm Message-ID: <41.5b31035.278a7781@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_41.5b31035.278a7781_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline In a message dated 01/07/2001 10:38:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG writes: Perhaps a web page or something... I deleted the reply to this that listed the web page, could whoever posted this please forward it to me again please. Thanks, Dennis denblose@aol.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:05:16 -0800 From: "Nick Drozdoff" To: Subject: Anagram tune Message-ID: <003801c07928$35e92b20$79bad0cf@s6d2w6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks. I've been lurking, but enjoying the posts that I can find time to read. I've just posted a new tune. I am trying to improve my 'bone playing. I'm going to look into these Christen Lindberg mouthpieces. The Schilkes are OK, but I think I can do better. The title of the new tune is "Warm Cow Slime, Lox Den!" The title is an anagram for the "real" title. The clues are in the tune and in 19th century thermodynamics. Have a few laughs at my expense for my "trombone playing" and "composition." Back to more lurking. Nick Drozdoff http://www.mp3.com/NickDrozdoff ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:20:10 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon VanSickle To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <20010108022010.14608.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Doug, The Red Violin is an excellent music movie, though having nothing to do with the trombone, it has everything to do with music, has a good soundtrack, and an excellent and enveloping story. Rent it, it would be 2 hours well speant. I garauntee Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:25:47 -0600 From: yardlejw@uwec.edu To: dkilen@pressenter.com, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: RE: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <97B60936DD4DD311A050002048403CFE053EFF49@chef.uwec.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Doug, If you haven't seen "Blues Brothers 2000" I would recommend it. It's got some pretty kickin' music scenes and the Blues Brothers are pretty hip. Jon Faddis, Tom Malone, and BB King are in it, to name a few. James Yardley Bass Trombone -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Kilen To: Trombones and related issues forum. Sent: 1/7/01 6:11 PM Subject: movie recommendations? Greetings fellow trombonists I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks for your replies! Doug Kilen ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:27:39 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon VanSickle To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Forgot my proofreading glasses Message-ID: <20010108022739.23252.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, spent not speant...Life will go on though. Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:30:20 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: What a weekend! Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010107190204.00aa1c50@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Well, let's see -- it started Friday evening, with a drive to Lubbock (100 miles) for a rehearsal. Seems the Texas Tech Trombone Choir (TTTC) would play for a wedding. A very good friend of mine (Don Lucas, of Texas Tech) was getting married. No, make that "he got married in August in Moscow, so they're having another wedding for everyone here in the States". What a group of trombonists showed up! WOW! So we rehearsed and the sound was -- gee. You see, the 1st and 2nd trombones were around 75 feet from the 3rd and Bass Trombones. Talk about timing problems! WOW! But, we pressed on. And then home for the evening. Anyway -- on to Saturday. Back to Lubbock (100 miles). Nice ceremony, reception afterwards, etc. Nice trombone playing, too. I guess the timing problems weren't really heard BETWEEN us. And MRS> Lucas? what a wonderful person! A pianist who came from the Moscow Conservatory... Sunday? Back to Lubbock (Did I mention that it's 100 miles? ) Get this! At 1 PM, a panel discussion, with Marte (Murr) Kennedy, former grad assistant of Don Lucas and doctoral student at (North Texas?), Chris Brannigan (of San Antonio), Twig Sargent of the US Naval Academy Band, and Chris Griego, of Edwards Trombones at Alphorn, uh, make that Elkhorn, Wi. Holy smokes! What a group! What a learning experience! At 3 PM (moved back to 3:15 due to the panel discussion holding over a bit), a concert. WOW! Oh, I said that before... Twig Sargent (Musician Second Class) played Rabe's Basta. Quite well, and it was a surprise opening. You see, I was talking to Robert Deahl, the retired trombone instructor at Tech, when suddenly Twig CUT LOOSE! Really made ME jump! Interesting piece that I had never heard before. Fun! Next, Marte Kennedy played T-REX by Mark Phillips. Gee. What a piece! What a performance! Then, Chris Brannigan played Kenny's Sonata (in 3 movements). My gosh. Wish *I* could do that! After a 10-minute intermission, the four panelist mentioned above came in a played some quartets for us. A Fugue by Mozart, some music by Bernstein, etc. Gee -- I never knew such music could come out of a trombone! I was especially impressed by a fellow named Jeff Deale. I THINK it was Jeff... Anyway, he's the Bass Trombonist at the Naval Academy. Nice guy, very friendly, and WHAT A SOUND! He plays a Bach, with Thayer valves and an Edwards leadpipe. Most Bach trombones have something in their sound that just grates on my nerves, but his doesn't. It just sounds like a Bass Trombone is supposed to... Gee. Wish I could do this EVERY weekend. Thanks to those of you on the list who were involved... Earl Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34d 25.446m W103d 12.700m (or so) Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, you breathe...) ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:38:01 -0600 From: "Jeff Albert" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Blue Bros. Message-ID: <001901c0791c$056abba0$04ac1442@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are going to watch a Blues Bros. movie, watch the real thing, not the blasphemous, show me the money sequel. Sorry, off topic, I'll shut up now. Jeff Albert www.jeffalbert.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: RE: movie recommendations? > Doug, > > If you haven't seen "Blues Brothers 2000" I would recommend it. It's got some pretty kickin' music scenes and the Blues Brothers are pretty hip. Jon Faddis, Tom Malone, and BB King are in it, to name a few. > > James Yardley > Bass Trombone > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Kilen > To: Trombones and related issues forum. > Sent: 1/7/01 6:11 PM > Subject: movie recommendations? > > Greetings fellow trombonists > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around > here! > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? > Thanks > for your replies! > > Doug Kilen > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:45:09 -0500 From: Randy Campora To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: RE: Movie Recommendations Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010107214433.0098fd40@mail.telephonet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Don't forget a movie called "Couch Trip" from about 12 years ago or more, the entire sound track is played by none other than the Canadian Brass! I think it's a Bill Murray film? Or is it Dan Akryod? -Randy Campora ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Randy Campora, Bass Trombonist Baltimore Symphony Orchestra Peabody Conservatory of Music campora@peabody.jhu.edu 410-461-1984 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:57:39 -0600 From: "tbone" To: "Trombone-L" Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <000d01c0791e$c65df500$aad0aa3f@susanc> Ahhhh!!! I forgot all about The Music Man! Josh Thomas 9th Grade Trombone Winfield City High School ----- Original Message ----- From: "tbone" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: movie recommendations? > The only music related movie that's coming to my mind is Mr. Holland's Opus, > which is a great movie! > > > Josh Thomas > 9th Grade Trombone > Winfield City High School > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Kilen" > To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:11 PM > Subject: movie recommendations? > > > > Greetings fellow trombonists > > > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! > > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? > Thanks > > for your replies! > > > > Doug Kilen > > > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! > > > > > > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:17:14 +1100 From: "Ben Gurton" To: "Trombone-l" Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <004801c07921$80f20440$174265cb@user> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Independence Day" or ID4 has the best soundtrack recording I have ever heard in terms of great brass playing. Even better than renting the video is getting the CD! Ben Gurton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Kilen" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: movie recommendations? > Greetings fellow trombonists > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks > for your replies! > > Doug Kilen > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! > > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:32:09 EST From: MasterCoda@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <76.6a664a6.278a8eb9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're looking for a good band director plot, Mr. Holland's Opus is pretty good. Thank God most of the songs were recorded by the San Fransisco Symphony (I think) and not the high schoolers 'playing' them... I'm sure you've probably seen it, but if not, it's worth seeing. Peter ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:41:00 -0600 From: Richard Corliss To: dkilen@pressenter.com, Trombone-l mailing Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <3A5936CC.D9EB2A68@astound.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you like brass band music "Brass Off" is a must. Richard Corliss Douglas Kilen wrote: > Greetings fellow trombonists > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks > for your replies! > > Doug Kilen > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:26:58 -0600 From: "Chad Horsley" To: Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <000901c07922$dd128000$3996fea9@nch1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saving Private Ryan and First Knight have some great parts also. ---------------------------------------------------- Chad Horsley tbneplyer@mindspring.com AIM....tbneplyer ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:44:57 -0600 From: Peter Soukup To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Crimson Tide. Peter Soukup psoukup@mindspring.com > From: "Douglas Kilen" > Reply-To: dkilen@pressenter.com > Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:11:50 -0600 > To: "Trombones and related issues forum." > Subject: movie recommendations? > > Greetings fellow trombonists > > I've got two more weeks off before school starts again, and my kids went > back to school last week. Needless to say, things are quiet around here! > Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the > trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks > for your replies! > > Doug Kilen > > ps - I've seen Brassed Off a couple dozen times... gotta love it! > ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:08:45 -0800 From: Michael & Dava Millar To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <3A593D4D.939E0701@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you're looking for a good band director plot, Mr. Holland's Opus is pretty > good. The thing that frosted me about 'Mr. Holland's Opus' was that they never saved the music program, it was just taken for granted that the program would have to die. For a music ed plot with a better ending, try 1999's 'Music of the Heart.' I'll second the motion on 'The Red Violin.' Corigliano's score is amazing, with Esa-Pekka Salonen conducting and Joshua Bell as soloist. I don't know if you can rent them, but Amazon sells the videos of Yo-Yo Ma's 'Inspired by Bach,' which puts each of the Cello Suites into a different setting. An incredible series. Great soundtracks? Countless choices there...... Mike Millar -- ============================================= ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:19:33 -0600 From: "Edwin Miller" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Required audition solo (was: Sachse) Message-ID: <003601c0792a$344490f0$0102a8c0@DEVCTO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > PS: I think at another recent bass trombone audition > (Nashville? Knoxville? somewhere in TN I think) they > asked for the 5th Suite Sarabande IN TENOR CLEF > 8VB!!!!! What's that about? In Nashville, they asked for the suite down a fourth which I guess is mostly similar (on most days of the week) to tenor clef 8vb, but it was definitely in bass clef (or maybe that's why I didn't make the finals?)... Later, Ed ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:17:06 -0600 From: Jay Heltzer To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: gig bag question Message-ID: <3A593F42.CDBB564E@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Regarding the G series gig bags by reunion blues, which this thread is developed from... Hey bass trombonists with G bags... do you put your horn in with the valves on the bottom, or against the zipper? I just got a G bag and Im not sure which option is better. Jay Heltzer ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:24:15 -0600 From: "Edwin Miller" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: gig bag question Message-ID: <007801c0792a$dc82f090$0102a8c0@DEVCTO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I put the triggers up (edwards double inline) against the zipper. The G bags require too much work to get the horn in and out, in my opinion, but I still use mine. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:07:25 -0600 From: "Jeff Albert" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: gig bag question Message-ID: <005201c07930$e48b4f20$04ac1442@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I put the triggers up (edwards double inline) against the zipper. The G > bags require too much work to get the horn in and out, in my opinion, but I > still use mine. > > > I agree 100%. Same here. Jeff Albert www.jeffalbert.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 01:04:57 -0500 From: sabutin@mindspring.com To: Donbenham3@aol.com Cc: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Bore size variation in small bore range Message-ID: <200101080607.BAA23334@blount.mail.mindspring.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:01 PM 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/7/01 7:43:28 AM, sabutin@mindspring.com writes: > ><< P.S. 8" bells seem to be the norm here...99% of the people who play >smaller horns use 8" bells. > >> > >I question this statement. Don't the 6H, the bach 12 and 16, williams 4 and 6, > all have 7 and 1/2 inch bells? > >Don Benham > ================= Not to my knowledge. My Williams 6 is 8'', as were my Bach 16 and Conn 100H (just a souped up 6H, really). Dunno about the Williams 4, and the Bach 12 and 16 bells are identical...just different slides. S. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 01:21:37 -0600 From: "Tom Izzo" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Required audition solo (was: Sachse) Message-ID: <02e401c07943$a3e46d40$0c75dfd0@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about some of the "new" faire. Such as Proclamation. Heck, that's why it's IN the repitoire, now! Tom ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:17:12 -0800 From: "Dilshad Kasmani" To: "Trombone-L" , Subject: Anderson Plating Message-ID: <012a01c078e6$d344b340$8119fea9@zrrs1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have the number and address for Anderson Plating? Thanks. Dilshad Kasmani ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:46:25 EST From: Closetbn@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: movie recommendations? Message-ID: <85.53bb638.278ad861@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/01 4:12:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, dkilen@pressenter.com writes: << Does anyone have any good movie rental recommendations that involve the trombone, an awesome soundtrack, or anything else related to music? Thanks for your replies! Doug Kilen >> "Shine" Sorry, not trombone-related (piano), but a good movie. ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:07:53 +0100 From: Marius HelgŒ To: "Trombones and related issues forum. (E-post)" Subject: The Music Man Message-ID: <1C5C11BC642AD41199DA00508BA5451F89B670@victoria.nb.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Found this nice promo site for The Music Man, and isn't this a nice promo picture on the top of the page? http://www.blackcatmedia.com/musicman.html Marius HelgŒ Bass Trombone Mo i Rana, Norway ----__ListProc__NextPart____TROMBONE-L__digest_1916--