TROMBONE-L Digest 1906

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Summer Brass Workshops
	by Randy Campora <campora@peabody.jhu.edu>
  2) Re: tenor tbones
	by Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
  3) Re: What did you play at Christmas?
	by jimandcat@juno.com
  4) Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
	by Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
  5) lindberg video w/berio
	by "yoshi" <hemiola@powersurfr.com>
  6) Obligatoes?
	by Atlbrvsnt@aol.com
  7) Digital Metronome ( ? )
	by "Dyke, David" <David_Dyke@stratus.com>
  8) Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
	by TonyC789@aol.com
  9) Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )
	by "Paul D. Kemp Jr." <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>
 10) Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
	by "Paul D. Kemp Jr." <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>
 11) Re: what did you play at Christmas
	by "Joe L. Norcross" <joetuba@lightspeed.net>
 12) Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
	by "Gary D. Maxwell" <gdmaxwell@ev1.net>
 13) RE: Digital Metronome ( ? )
	by Steve Gamble <orchpers@azstarnet.com>
 14) Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )
	by "Gary D. Maxwell" <gdmaxwell@ev1.net>
 15) Re: Damaged Mouthpiece Tale
	by "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com>
 16) Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
	by "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com>
 17) Re: lindberg video w/berio
	by Hiroyuki Harada <h-harada@pc.highway.ne.jp>
 18) Schubert songs & Elsa's Procession
	by Gordon Cherry <gcherry@interchange.ubc.ca>
 19) Re: Mass transit to gig
	by Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
 20) Re: Tenor Trombones
	by Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
 21) Re: Mass transit to gig
	by "Paul Hill" <pdhill@email.msn.com>
 22) Re: Mass transit to gig
	by "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com>
 23) Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )
	by "Dean  McCarty" <bassbone@exp.net>



From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:45 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:19:00 -0500
From: Randy Campora <campora@peabody.jhu.edu>
To: BassBonist@aol.com,
        "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Summer Brass Workshops
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<x-flowed iso-8859-1>Matt, I think this is what you are thinking of, the Lieksa Brass Week in 
the Finnish city of the same name. I have pasted below the stuff I recently 
received from them.  Have a good time and let us know how it was.


Randy Campora

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From: "Aarnio Petri" <petri.aarnio@lieksa.fi>
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Subject: Lieksa Brass Week
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 >Lieksa Brass Week challenges with its theme "Big and Beautiful"
 >
 >When July turns to August its time for the annual brass music festival Lieksa
Brass Week. According to the Artistic Director of the festival, this year´s
theme is interesting because it makes you wonder what really is big or
beautiful. Lieksa Brass Week does not have as its aim organising mega
spectacles or concerts held in stadiums but wants to challenge the public to
enjoy genuine experiences.
 >
 >Arguments for the theme touched upon are various. The featured instrument -
tuba - is the biggest of the brass instruments. The Lieksa International Tuba
Competition in 2001 will be one of the biggest of its kind. The classical
concert series will consist of 16 concerts. In addition, Lieksa is the third
largest town in Finland including its surrounding area.
 >
 >During Brass Week big and beautiful will also be reflected inthe different
ensembles, including Military Band and Töölö Brass which is the biggest brass
ensemble in Finland. Something great will also be the first guest choir in the
history of Lieksa Brass Week with the Vaasa City Orchestra performing in
concert the Requiem by Mozart. Soloists will be Mia Huhta, Jenny Carlstedt,
Topi Lehtipuu and Heikki Orama.
 >
 >Great artists will also be heard in smaller ensembles: trumpet players 
Thierry
Caëns (France), Falk Maertens (Germany), French Horn artist Bruno Schneider
(Switzerland), trombonist Jörgen van Rijen (Netherlands), Steven Mead (England)
and the tuba players Roger Bobo (Italy), Steve Rosse (Australia) and Patrick
Sheridan (USA).
 >
 >Our guest quintet is the Spanish Brass - Luur Metalls from Spain who have
gained top recognition in the front row of brass quintets along with German
Brass and Canadian Brass.
 >
 >With its programme Lieksa Brass Week wants to challenge the public to think
what really is big or beautiful. Often one  thinks only ticket prices or
audience size matters. What matters most for us is that we in Lieksa Brass Week
could offer you something a little different in your musical experiences. Depth
of musical feeling or experience can be great. That, in itself, is beautiful!

www.musicfinland.com/lieksa

ATTENTION! LIEKSA BRASS WEEK´S PHONE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED:
Petri Aarnio, General Manager      +358-13-689 4145
Anu  Mustonen, secretary           +358-13-689 4144
Lieksa Brass Week office           +358-13-689 4147
Lieksa Brass Week Fax         +358-13-689 4915

If you want yourself removed from the mailing list, send a bland message to
petri.aarnio@lieksa.fi   with the subject    REMOVE




	~RC

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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:10:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: tenor tbones
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--- Rod Ellard <ellard@sprint.ca> wrote:
> No doubt about it, go get that custom Edwards or
> Shires.  These are hands
> down the finest trombones on the market and will
> undoubtedly last you for
> the rest of your life.  Even better, as you
> obviously convinced Mom and Dad
> to spring for a Bach 42BOG for your high school
> career, they will
> undoubtedly be more than happy to spring for the
> Edwards or the Shires now.
> Remember, that once you're on your own and working
> for a living, it's going
> to be a heck of a lot more difficult to afford the
> dream horn, particularly
> if you're a professional musician (one of life's
> ironies) so go for it now
> while you can get Mom and Dad to pay for it.  It's
> the least they can do for
> you.
> 
> Rod
> 
 
I would have to heartily disagree...A Bach 42 is a
fine professional instrument. I would advise any high
school student who has one to keep playing it, and
hold off on buying a custom instrument until his/her
playing is more developed. Wait until you have studied
with a fine teacher for a few years, have high quality
ensemble experience under your belt, and have a better
idea EXACTLY what you want to sound like. My playing
changed a lot during college and graduate school, and
while I made modifications to my Bach over those
years, it wasn't until a few years of professional
playing that I bought a new, custom instrument from
Shires. I'm a much, much better player now than I was
when I was in college, and I don't think I would have
chosen as wisely then as I did two years ago.

If now is a good time to ask your parents for money
for a lifetime professional instrument, why not ask
them to invest that money for you, that you can then
use in 2, 3 or 4 years, when your playing is more
developed? 

Gabe



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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:20:46 -0800
From: jimandcat@juno.com
To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: What did you play at Christmas?
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All the usual carols in orchestra + choir, brass + choir, brass quintet,
and trombone groups.

2 unusual things--for the first time in about 20 years performed the Ron
Nelson "The Christmas Story" for choir, narrator, brass & timp. Do any of
you know this piece? Not much for trombone, but it is a very well written
cantata based on the Luke gospel. One movement towards the end is about
the "weeping and wailing" of mothers after King Herod has murdered all
the children of Bethlehem under 2 years. There is a metronomic timpani
beat that grows louder throughout. The conductor, to get the somber
dramatic effect out of the choir, said, "Each timpani beat is a baby's
head rolling down the street." (Now there's a happy Christmas feeling).
Highly dramatic music written when the composer was only19 (I think),
well before "Blue Lake" and "Rocky Point Holiday".

The other unusual thing is that for the first time in 5 or 6 years I
DIDN'T do multiple performances of Rutter's "Gloria"! Kind of missed that
big blow, but it's forever tainted by overhearing a choir member comment
after the last performance I did, "That's awfully Hollywood isn't it?"

Didn't do it this year, but if someone gets stuck in a cheap orchestra
with only 2 trombones doing "The Many Moods of Christmas", I have reduced
the 2nd, 3rd, 4th trombone and tuba into one part (as best I could
anyway). Contact me off-list for this gem.

Jim Prindle
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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:41:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
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Among other things I played the Christmas show of the
Three Irish Tenors - you've probably seen them on PBS.
Nothing earthshattering, but straightforward, easy,
effective arrangements - a painless gig overall. 

Also did some of the New England/Northeast runouts
with the Boston Pops and a fabulous chorus called
Gloria Dei Cantores - they have numerous recordings
out, and are definitely worth hearing.

Gabe 


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:53:22 -0700
From: "yoshi" <hemiola@powersurfr.com>
To: <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: lindberg video w/berio
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<x-charset iso-8859-1>i am looking for a video that i once borrowed and now cannot find.  it
features christian lindberg playing berio's sequenza V as well as the
motorcycle ride piece and a couple others.  the guy i borrowed it from said
he copied it off someone else's laserdisc, but i hope it was issued on vhs
and/or dvd somewhere.  anyone have an idea what the name of the video is or
where to find it?

thanks,
josh


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:54:57 EST
From: Atlbrvsnt@aol.com
To: <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Obligatoes?
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<x-charset ISO-8859-1>List, this may sound kinda dumb :P but what exactly is an obligato?  I've 
seen it referred to many times on here and I kinda know what you're talking 
about when you've said it...but what's the definition of one?

MTC:
Conn 8H, Bach Strad
Cleveland and Blessing 88
Mine all say hello.

-Tommy

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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:39:28 -0500
From: "Dyke, David" <David_Dyke@stratus.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Digital Metronome ( ? )
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Greetings Folks, 

My apologies if this question came up in the past and I some how missed it. 

Now that Christmas is over I'm in the position to purchase a present for
myself in the form of a digital metronome for aiding my trombone practice
sessions. Would anyone have any suggestions for me ? I'm looking for
something in the middle range of the price spectrum and with the various
models and manufactures out there I'm not sure what would be worth
considering at this point.

Thanks ~ Dave

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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:41:14 EST
From: TonyC789@aol.com
To: glangfur@yahoo.com, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
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THIRTY NUTCRACKERS!!! errrrrrrrrrrrr.

Tony Clements

From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:48:54 -0500
From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )
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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Dave,
    There are many good digital metronomes on the market. For a metronome
that will last the rest of your playing career, (provided that you don't
drop it), I highly recommend Dr. Beat. It subdivides the beat for you so you
can see exactly where your time and rhythm is lacking. It's amazing what
kind of life your music will take on after practicing with one of these.
They're not cheap, but in the long run IMHO they are the best.

Paul Kemp
Chattanooga Symphony
www.trbnplyr.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dyke, David" <David_Dyke@stratus.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: Digital Metronome ( ? )


>
> Greetings Folks,
>
> My apologies if this question came up in the past and I some how missed
it.
>
> Now that Christmas is over I'm in the position to purchase a present for
> myself in the form of a digital metronome for aiding my trombone practice
> sessions. Would anyone have any suggestions for me ? I'm looking for
> something in the middle range of the price spectrum and with the various
> models and manufactures out there I'm not sure what would be worth
> considering at this point.
>
> Thanks ~ Dave
>


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:04:03 -0500
From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Tony,
I wish I could have played 30 Nutcrackers. It is wonderful music that stands
on its own merit without the dancers. We do 3 here every year, and I
honestly believe that we could do 10 and sell it out every time. Once you
know the show, it's pretty easy money.

Paul Kemp
Chattanooga Symphony
www.trbnplyr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <TonyC789@aol.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?


> THIRTY NUTCRACKERS!!! errrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Tony Clements
>


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:18:01 -0800
From: "Joe L. Norcross" <joetuba@lightspeed.net>
To: <eljaywhite@telus.net>,
        "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: what did you play at Christmas
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<x-charset iso-8859-1>The old books were arranged by Erik Leizden and had 4 parts.  3rd and 4th
could be had in bass clef.  The new books are augmented by Steve Bulla to 5
parts (5th part optional euph) and have added carols.  The old and new books
as far as I can tell are identical in the 4 parts on the carols they share.
I as  Salvation Army Bandmaster have used both sets over my 20 years in SA
banding

Joe L. Norcross
Tuba: Visalia CA Sequoia Winds, Visalia Brass Band
Tuba and Announcer: Kingsburg City Band
joetuba@lightspeed.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry White" <eljaywhite@telus.net>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: what did you play at Christmas


> Dave,
> The next time you are asked to play The Salvation Army music, ask for the
> Bass Bone part, which is written in Bass Clef. Sometimes it is not
complete,
> in that it is a 'fifth' part of the four part harmony, thus there are some
> rests where the bass part carries on.  "Snip"



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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:40:17 -0800
From: "Gary D. Maxwell" <gdmaxwell@ev1.net>
To: <TonyC789@aol.com>,
        "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
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Tony Clements wrote:

> THIRTY NUTCRACKERS!!! errrrrrrrrrrrr.
=======================================
THIRTY in one season!?!  Wow!  I'll bet you are sleeping,
over-and-over-and-over, that 'wonderful', "A, G, F#,G, F#, E, D, F#, etc,
etc" Bass Trbn. SOLO in No. 9 - "Valse de Falcons de Neige", letter 'C'.
Now aren't you!  Or, if you were on 1st or 2nd, you HAD to have gotten a lot
of reading done, or, as our 1st usually does, maybe your taxes all filled
out and ready to mail.  (:>))

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Gary Maxwell
Bass Trombone
Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra



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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:46:33 -0700
From: Steve Gamble <orchpers@azstarnet.com>
To: "'David_Dyke@stratus.com'" <David_Dyke@stratus.com>,
        "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: RE: Digital Metronome ( ? )
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David,

In addition to Paul's recommendation concerning Dr. Beat, I have a few 
things about the Dr. Beat that I think make it worth the money.  You can 
set the volume at a high enough level to be able to use it in an ensemble 
rehearsal.  Also you can set it at tempos that fall in between the 
traditional metronome markings.  A lot of music is being published these 
days with such non-traditional tempo markings.  One neat feature allows you 
to tap out a tempo that you want to go and the machine will set itself to 
the rhythm of your tapping.  There are a couple of different models of Dr. 
Beat available, so you will have to decide on how many bells and whistles 
you want.

Steve Gamble

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Sent:	Thursday, December 28, 2000 12:39 PM
To:	Trombones and related issues forum.
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Greetings Folks,

My apologies if this question came up in the past and I some how missed it. 

Now that Christmas is over I'm in the position to purchase a present for
myself in the form of a digital metronome for aiding my trombone practice
sessions. Would anyone have any suggestions for me ? I'm looking for
something in the middle range of the price spectrum and with the various
models and manufactures out there I'm not sure what would be worth
considering at this point.

Thanks ~ Dave

From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:49:05 -0800
From: "Gary D. Maxwell" <gdmaxwell@ev1.net>
To: <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>,
        "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )
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From: "Paul D. Kemp Jr." Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:48 AM


>I highly recommend Dr. Beat.
> They're not cheap, but in the long run IMHO they are the best.
========================================

I absolutely agree with Paul.  Dr. Beat is really the way to go.  I use mine
at my middle school ,also, and it has even lived through SEVERAL droppings.
I don't advise testing it's life this way, but mine seems to be very well
made.

Good Luck.  Be sure to check out as many as you can get your hands on.

All the best,
Gary Maxwell
Bass Trombone
Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:24:11 
From: "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com>
To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: Damaged Mouthpiece Tale
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One more time...

If you lightly tap the damaged rim with a smooth faced hammer, you can 
smooth out any rough surface you may have created, by dropping it on the 
floor.  Doing this, rather than trying to abrade the roughness off, will 
sometimes restore the surface so that the plating is even in tact.

DanP

>From: David Oliver <dcoliver@accessnetusa.com>
>Reply-To: dcoliver@accessnetusa.com
>To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
>Subject: Damaged Mouthpiece Tale
>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:13:24 -0800
>
>I thought I'd relate what happened to me as a "word to the wise."
>
>I was washing out a new mouthpiece (2 day ship!) a week or so ago in
>the kitchen sink and lost my grip on it when I spun around to grab a
>towel. My kitchen floor has hard ceramic tile and of course the
>mouthpice landed right on the rim. It looked like it had been scored
>by the teeth of long nose pliers, rendering it unplayable - at least
>*I* didn't want to.
>I was going to use it for a "Gospel" Christmas show at a local Baptist
>church with my sooped up Blessing B7 that night. I only got to
>practice with it a few times. I ended up grabbing the older Bach with
>the larger backbore (the new mouthpiece had a smaller backbore and I
>want to play it at least once).
>
>The good news: The mouthpiece was a $14.95 "Brasswind" 6 1/2 AL from
>the WW & BW. It could have been worse. It could have been the gold
>plated Bach 11C with modified backbore (for my small bores), or my
>trusty older 88H shank Bach 6 1/2 AL  I use with the '67 88H.
>
>The moral: Always be careful when washing a slippery mouthpiece with
>soap. I've dropped others in the past in my bathroom sink, but no harm
>done when it hit the smooth, curved surface. Maybe a slight dimple,
>but hard to see.
>Have the towel and pouch right there.
>
>David Oliver
>Broomfield, CO  USA
>Trombone, Denver Concert Band
>
>P.S. I'll likely just by another one, as trying to fix the gouge would
>probably mean I'd need to replate the thing, as the brass base metal
>will likely be exposed.
>
>

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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:35:34 
From: "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com>
To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: What Did you Play At Christmas?
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The greatest gift that I gave my extended family, this Christmas break was 
to be too busy to play trombone.  We had 26 people for Christmas dinner.

DanP

PS.  Imagine how many people would have been there if I were Christian?
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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 06:36:33 +0900
From: Hiroyuki Harada <h-harada@pc.highway.ne.jp>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: lindberg video w/berio
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Hello yoshi,

I have this laserdisc.
It have no title, but made by BIS and have number that is LD-558.

I do not know where to find it ( I bought it a few years ago ),
but you can order it.

Cheers,
--

Hiroyuki Harada
h-harada@pc.highway.ne.jp



On 00.12.29 2:53 AM, "yoshi" <hemiola@powersurfr.com> wrote:

> i am looking for a video that i once borrowed and now cannot find.  it
> features christian lindberg playing berio's sequenza V as well as the
> motorcycle ride piece and a couple others.  the guy i borrowed it from said
> he copied it off someone else's laserdisc, but i hope it was issued on vhs
> and/or dvd somewhere.  anyone have an idea what the name of the video is or
> where to find it?
> 
> thanks,
> josh
> 
> 


From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:59:37 -0800
From: Gordon Cherry <gcherry@interchange.ubc.ca>
To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu
Subject: Schubert songs & Elsa's Procession
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<x-rich><param>iso-8859-1</param>Dear fellow 'bonists.  I have been busy this holiday finishing up two
transcriptions that I have been working on for a long time.  They are
now available for purchase.


* 7 Schubert songs from his song cycle, "Die Schøne Mullerin" for tenor
trombone and piano.  These songs are very lyrical and a pleasure to
play either as legato studies or as recital pieces.  They are not in
any catalogue!!


* Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral by Richard Wagner from his opera,
Lohengrin.  Transcribed for 10 trombones:


	2 altos

	6 tenors

	2 basses


This work is for the advanced trombone ensemble or choir and is very
sonorous, dramatic and lyrical.  This transcription will have a big
emotional impact on the players and audience!!  There are other
settings of this work, but not for this sized group with altos.


Both works are available from me for $15.00 US plus shipping, or you
can also purchase from me via eBay online auctions.  The two works are
being auctioned off right now under the following auction #'s:


	<bold>1400892810 - Elsa

	1401154492 - Schubert


</bold>Thanks for your support in the past.  Have a great New Year!!! 

Gordon Cherry 

                Principal Trombone, Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, 

       Senior Lecturer of Trombone, University of British Columbia, 

     Phone & Fax: (604) 261-5454            e-mail: gcherry@interchange.ubc.ca


        "I've loved the trombone for over fifty years." -- Emory Remington

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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:05:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Mass transit to gig
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I recently bought the BucketBoss Gatemouth Longboy
toolbag (discussed recently on list as the ideal bass
trombone mute bag) to carry mutes & accessories. It's
sturdy, fits several mutes & accessories in the large
central compartment, has straps on one side which I
use for my trombone stand, several pockets for smaller
items, and both a shoulder strap and handles. I find
it really easy to carry around, from the car to the
rehearsal site or when I have to take trains & buses.
I ordered it online from Duluth Trading Company (I
think...), but you might find it or something similar
at a hardware store. Home Depot carries Bucketmouth
products, but none of the ones I went to had this
particular item.

The longboy is a big improvement from the Reunion
Blues bass trombone mutebag, which didn't fit my
trombone stand (as they advertise), and was awkward to
carry around because of the strange straps.

Gabe


--- stevencarr <stevencarr@home.com> wrote:
> To those of you that take mass transit to gigs:
> 
> Any hints about get to gigs on subway - bus - feet
> etc with all the equipment (mutes, stands,
> sandwiches) that you need.  Especially when you're
> not sure what to expect and want/need to be
> prepared.  (Sabutin, you're mentioned bring two
> horns when you're not sure which one is right).  
> 
> Perhaps it is just that I'm soft from years in the
> suburbs and need to get used to walking.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Steve
> 


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:19:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Gabriel Langfur <glangfur@yahoo.com>
To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Tenor Trombones
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Peter,

Well, bad valve considered, I would still stand by my
original advice. I would suggest, if your parents are
willing to buy you a new instrument now, that you
demonstrate long-range planning to them as follows: 

Ask for the cost of a new Edwards or Shires
($2500-$3000). Keep the Bach, and use some of that
money to buy a valve section from Shires or Gary
Greenhoe and have it installed by a good repairman.
You might even be able to find one used. That will
significantly increase the resale value later,
although I think you would never regret keeping the
Bach as a second horn. 

Invest the rest, let's say in a longer-range CD - 24
months maybe (FDIC insured, so it's not at risk for
recession), and buy the new instrument in a couple of
years. I guarantee that you will be a better judge of
the right instrument for you with some college under
your belt. 

You can even buy a valve section from Gary Greenhoe
with hardware for Shires or Edwards, convert your Bach
with that hardware, and then buy the rest of the
instrument around the valve later.

I strongly believe that this would be the best plan
and timetable for you.

Gabe


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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:23:55 -0900
From: "Paul Hill" <pdhill@email.msn.com>
To: <glangfur@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Mass transit to gig
Message-ID: <004a01c0713e$657a5180$21f8fea9@navak-n01n>

...absolutely agree with Gabe.  I purchased mine through Ace Hardware and it
is probably the best money I ever spent!

Best Regards,
Paul


>I recently bought the BucketBoss Gatemouth Longboy
>toolbag (discussed recently on list as the ideal bass
>trombone mute bag) to carry mutes & accessories. It's
>sturdy, fits several mutes & accessories in the large
>central compartment, has straps on one side which I
>use for my trombone stand, several pockets for smaller
>items, and both a shoulder strap and handles. I find
>it really easy to carry around, from the car to the
>rehearsal site or when I have to take trains & buses.
>I ordered it online from Duluth Trading Company (I
>think...), but you might find it or something similar
>at a hardware store. Home Depot carries Bucketmouth
>products, but none of the ones I went to had this
>particular item.
>
>The longboy is a big improvement from the Reunion
>Blues bass trombone mutebag, which didn't fit my
>trombone stand (as they advertise), and was awkward to
>carry around because of the strange straps.
>
>Gabe





From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:46 2001
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 02:41:16 
From: "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin@hotmail.com>
To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: Mass transit to gig
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>I recently bought the BucketBoss Gatemouth Longboy
>toolbag (discussed recently on list as the ideal bass
>trombone mute bag) to carry mutes & accessories. It's
>sturdy, fits several mutes & accessories in the large
>central compartment, has straps on one side which I
>use for my trombone stand,

I was hoping to be able to fit my trombone stand and music stand in the bag 
and found that it wasn't big enough.  I also looked at a few bat bags and 
found that they wouldn't work, either.  I'm still looking.

DanP

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From ???@??? Tue Jan 02 08:17:47 2001
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:03:03 -0600
From: "Dean  McCarty" <bassbone@exp.net>
To: <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>,
        "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )
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<x-charset iso-8859-1>I also would recommend the Dr. Beat 66, the 88 is just has more bells and
whistles for about $100 more.

Dean McCarty
freelance trombonist, Houston area

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Kemp Jr. <trbnplyr@earthlink.net>
To: Trombones and related issues forum. <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Metronome ( ? )


> Dave,
>     There are many good digital metronomes on the market. For a metronome
> that will last the rest of your playing career, (provided that you don't
> drop it), I highly recommend Dr. Beat. It subdivides the beat for you so
you
> can see exactly where your time and rhythm is lacking. It's amazing what
> kind of life your music will take on after practicing with one of these.
> They're not cheap, but in the long run IMHO they are the best.
>
> Paul Kemp
> Chattanooga Symphony
> www.trbnplyr.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dyke, David" <David_Dyke@stratus.com>
> To: "Trombones and related issues forum." <trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:39 PM
> Subject: Digital Metronome ( ? )
>
>
> >
> > Greetings Folks,
> >
> > My apologies if this question came up in the past and I some how missed
> it.
> >
> > Now that Christmas is over I'm in the position to purchase a present for
> > myself in the form of a digital metronome for aiding my trombone
practice
> > sessions. Would anyone have any suggestions for me ? I'm looking for
> > something in the middle range of the price spectrum and with the various
> > models and manufactures out there I'm not sure what would be worth
> > considering at this point.
> >
> > Thanks ~ Dave
> >
>


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