TROMBONE-L Digest 1623 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Bach 16, more by Paul Niemisto 2) Sunday Morning Triva/Trbn related? by "Gary Maxwell" 3) The Doug Yeo Signature Mouthpiece & the price of fame by "Tom C. Shaddox" 4) Equipment for Sale by "Dilshad Kasmani" 5) So much for Berlioz' "nobility and grandeur" by "Tom C. Shaddox" 6) Re: Miles & JJ video by "John Jensen" 7) OTJ Classified Ads Update 3/12/00 by Chris Waage 8) Re: The Doug Yeo Signature Mouthpiece & the price of fame by Douglas Yeo 9) Re: So much for Berlioz' "nobility and grandeur" by Craig Parmerlee 10) Re: Miles & JJ by Jeff Albert 11) Fw: Equipment for Sale by "Dilshad Kasmani" 12) Crumpets by "Rod Ellard" 13) Re: Crumpets by BRASSRX@aol.com 14) Re: Crumpets by "Aaron Roth" From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:30 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:16:17 -0500 From: Paul Niemisto To: brass@quartz.gly.fsu.edu, Subject: Bach 16, more Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have this nice little Bach 16, tenor trombone, for sale. Serial number 50190. This horn was made between 1972 and 1974 by Selmer. I've heard it referred to as the LT16M. - not dual bore. Some lacquer wear around hand grip, one ding on bell that is easily fixed. Otherwise in fine shape. Anybody interested? Looking for $600. I'm working on getting a digital photo available; will get it to those of you who have already responded. PAUL NIEMISTO niemisto@stolaf.edu Associate Professor of Music Christiansen Hall of Music 117 St.Olaf College Northfield, MN 55057 Ph: 507-646-3186 Fax: 507-646-3527 From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:30 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:16:01 -0800 From: "Gary Maxwell" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Sunday Morning Triva/Trbn related? Message-ID: <000b01bf8c4f$068be640$bd02a5d1@maxwells> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glenn Miller did a recording session with the Andrews Sisters. They recorded "In the Mood", so it does have lyrics. I have the lyrics, but I do not have the Album Title, record number or recording company (I'd guess Columbia, but....?) Privately please, if you want the lyrics, or if you can help me locate a recording. Thanks. All the best, Gary Maxwell Bass Trombone Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:30 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:42:30 -0600 From: "Tom C. Shaddox" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: The Doug Yeo Signature Mouthpiece & the price of fame Message-ID: <38CBE516.A5592A57@fnc.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I was at Mars Music doing a little recreational trombone driving. I asked if I could try the Yamaha 421G they had on the rack. "Sure, and let's get you a mouthpiece for it...hmm, the only bass trombone mouthpiece we have is this 'Doug Yeah-hoo' model." Tom Shaddox, 9th chair tenor P.S. FWIW, I really liked both the 421G and the Yeah-hoo mouthpiece. This combination deserves a trial by any of you who, like myself, are seeking fame, fortune and artistic expression by playing the 3rd/4th trombone part in a concert band. P.P.S. I also note that Yamaha has put a model number history on their web site: http://www.yamaha.com/band/ P.P.P.S. A company that created the "Silent Violin" is OK in my book. From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:30 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:23:28 -0800 From: "Dilshad Kasmani" To: "Trombone-L" , "Trombone Central" Subject: Equipment for Sale Message-ID: <004501bf8c60$d4de7100$b602aec7@zrrs1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01BF8C1D.C5868190"

Bach 42B. S/N: 50553. Yellow brass bell. Standard weight slide. Closed wrap f-attachment. Excellent slide and valve. A few very minor dings. The lacquer is heavily worn, and there are signs of previous dent removal work. All in all the horn is very straight and plays well. I recently had the horn chemically cleaned. Original case is in fair condition. No mouthpiece. $750 OBO

King 3B-F. S/N:  733956. Yellow brass bell. Lightweight slide. F-attachment.  Slide and valve are very good.  Minor dings on the bell and gooseneck. The lacquer is in fair condition, but there is the usual wear on the handgrip and slide. There are signs of previous solder work at slide receiver-valve junction and maybe around the spit valve. I just had the horn chemically cleaned as well. Original case in good condition.  Beat-up Bach 6.5AL mouthpiece. $500 OBO

Elkhart Conn 4H bell section. Excellent – near original condition – except for some acid bleed off the bell rim wire. Maybe a total of four minor dings on the throat, stem, and tuning slide bow. It comes with an Elkhart 77H slide. This is a .500” bore step-up instrument slide known as the “Connquest”. The slide is nearly dent free, but has some lacquer wear in spots. It does need a good slide job and the inner slides have areas of wear and corrosion. Comes with a ‘60’s Buescher slim-line case (with keys!) and a worn Olds 3 mouthpiece. There is even an old lyre that came with the horn. The bell itself accepts any standard small-bore Conn slide. I have used it with my 48H and 6H slides – the bell play great – I just have no use with my other small-bores. Make an offer for the whole thing or for the bell or slide alone.

Generic black plastic slim-line case for a straight tenor. It holds up to an 8” bell. Black plush lining and small accessory compartment. In excellent condition. Make an offer.

Gold-plated Bach Megatone 7C mouthpiece. Brand new – in box. I took it out of the plastic and used it for maybe two or three hours and then decide to stick with my old Mt. Vernon 7C. Perfect condition. $50 OBO

I’ll wait until next weekend to post theses on eBay if they have not sold by then. I will have pictures available later tonight. If you have any questions, please feel free to e-mail or call me.

Thanks.

Dilshad Kasmani

dkasmani@mindspring.com

C: 832-541-3405
 From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:30 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:00:36 -0600 From: "Tom C. Shaddox" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: So much for Berlioz' "nobility and grandeur" Message-ID: <38CBE954.9B14FC18@fnc.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit U.S. television, "Samuel Adams" brand beer commercial. Fellow sitting a bar; bar tender sets a mug of the aforementioned beer in front of him. What sounds like the largo, acoustic version of "Blue Moon" playing in the back ground. As he lifts it to his mouth, a lady bumps into him, driving his nose down into the foam. Background music switches to a trombone ripping, smearing and sliding through a little ditty. Tom Shaddox, 9th chair tenor From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:30 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:11:54 -0200 From: "John Jensen" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Miles & JJ video Message-ID: <004e01bf8c3d$b1ad94e0$a72caccf@jljbone> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Additionally there exists a video that features Miles, Sonny Stitt and JJ. Maybe Art Taylor... Anyway, I believe it may be from a British television show and I used to have a copy of it. Might still have it. John L Jensen jljbone@erols.com http://www.welgoss.com/johnjensen (703) 503 8606 Subject: RE: Miles & JJ From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:01:48 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L , brass@quartz.gly.fsu.edu Subject: OTJ Classified Ads Update 3/12/00 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds (http://www.trombone.org/classifieds) have been updated as of 4:57 p.m. CST on March 12, 2000 with many new listings. Please note: due to travel schedules of the OTJ staff, the OTJ Classifieds will be updated on Sundays for the next few weeks. OTJ Instrument Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/instruments.asp OTJ Accessory Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/accessories.asp OTJ Music Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/music.asp To place an ad: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/adform.asp If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris@trombone.org. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Waage chris@trombone.org Associate Webmaster The Online Trombone Journal http://www.trombone.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:16:48 -0500 From: Douglas Yeo To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: The Doug Yeo Signature Mouthpiece & the price of fame Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 12:42 PM -0600 3/12/00, Tom C. Shaddox wrote: >So I was at Mars Music doing a little recreational trombone driving. I >asked if I could try the Yamaha 421G they had on the rack. "Sure, and >let's get you a mouthpiece for it...hmm, the only bass trombone >mouthpiece we have is this 'Doug Yeah-hoo' model." Well, I've been called worse. MUCH worse... :-) In any case, this question does come up (how to pronounce my name), so here's the short version. No, I'm not Chinese (although Yeo is also a common Chinese name as well). My ancestry is both Scottish (Malcolm - a piano maker from Edinburgh) and English (Yeo - a Canon in the COE from Cornwall). There is a Yeovil and River Yeo in County Wiltshire in England, the Yeoman Beefeaters are the traditional guards of the Crown jewels in the Tower of London, and of course there is Gilbert and Sullivan's operetta, "The Yeoman of the Guard." In Dr. Seuss's "Bartholomew and the Ooblick" you find a reference to the "Yeoman bowman." And in naval circles, Yeoman is a rank. Yeo isn't as common in England as "Smith" and "Jones" are in the USA, but a look at the London phonebook will find more than a few Yeos in town. There are also many Yeos in Prince Edward Island in Canada, for instance. My family branch went from Cornwall (1800's) to the British West Indies (Barbados, Barbuda and St. Kitts) to Brooklyn, New York. Yeo = pronounced "yo" as in the frequent greeting, "Yo, Doug!," which led to my selection of my website URL as yeodoug.com This I hoped would on occasion lead to correct pronunciation of my surname. So, that's "the rest of the story." -Doug Yeo/Yo (yeah, I've heard all the yo-yo and Yo-Yo Ma jokes, too....) ********************************************** * Douglas Yeo * * Bass Trombonist, Boston Symphony Orchestra * * Music Director, The New England Brass Band * * yeo@yeodoug.com * * http://www.yeodoug.com * * <>< * ********************************************** From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:53:31 -0500 From: Craig Parmerlee To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: So much for Berlioz' "nobility and grandeur" Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000312205017.00acd2f0@acticalc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:00 PM 3/12/00 -0600, Tom C. Shaddox wrote: >U.S. television, "Samuel Adams" brand beer commercial. Fellow sitting a >bar; bar tender sets a mug of the aforementioned beer in front of him. >What sounds like the largo, acoustic version of "Blue Moon" playing in >the back ground. As he lifts it to his mouth, a lady bumps into him, >driving his nose down into the foam. Background music switches to a >trombone ripping, smearing and sliding through a little ditty. Microsoft is running a commercial that ends with their graphical tag line "Where do you want to go today?" while in the background a choir sings from Mozart's "Requiem." The text is from the 16th verse of the "Dies Irae" sequence: Confutatis maledictis (When the accursed are confounded) Flammis acribus addictis, (And given over to the bitter flames,) Voca me cum benedictis.(Call me with thy benediction.) I'm glad to see the Microsoft folks have figured out the answer to their rhetorical question. Craig Parmerlee From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:11:50 -0600 From: Jeff Albert To: JTEAGARDEN@aol.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Miles & JJ Message-ID: <38CC5C74.F900A64A@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J.J. also appears on the Miles Davis Allstars record "Walkin'" which was recorded in 1954. Jeff JTEAGARDEN@aol.com wrote: > Miles and JJ recorded at different times but I don't think any were done > while JJ was an official part of the Miles Davis band. The Blue Note albums > mentioned were done in the early to mid 50's. JJ was a regular member of > Miles Davis band in the early sixties for about six months or so. > > David Bratcher -- Jeff Albert "Every song has a soul." Keith Jarrett From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:57:27 -0800 From: "Dilshad Kasmani" To: "Trombone-L" , "Trombone Central" Subject: Fw: Equipment for Sale Message-ID: <007c01bf8cb1$03d82460$2905aec7@zrrs1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01BF8C6D.F4973F60"
The pictures are now available. Thanks.
 
dk
 
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Subject: Equipment for Sale

Bach 42B. S/N: 50553. Yellow brass bell. Standard weight slide. Closed wrap f-attachment. Excellent slide and valve. A few very minor dings. The lacquer is heavily worn, and there are signs of previous dent removal work. All in all the horn is very straight and plays well. I recently had the horn chemically cleaned. Original case is in fair condition. No mouthpiece. $750 OBO

King 3B-F. S/N:  733956. Yellow brass bell. Lightweight slide. F-attachment.  Slide and valve are very good.  Minor dings on the bell and gooseneck. The lacquer is in fair condition, but there is the usual wear on the handgrip and slide. There are signs of previous solder work at slide receiver-valve junction and maybe around the spit valve. I just had the horn chemically cleaned as well. Original case in good condition.  Beat-up Bach 6.5AL mouthpiece. $500 OBO

Elkhart Conn 4H bell section. Excellent – near original condition – except for some acid bleed off the bell rim wire. Maybe a total of four minor dings on the throat, stem, and tuning slide bow. It comes with an Elkhart 77H slide. This is a .500” bore step-up instrument slide known as the “Connquest”. The slide is nearly dent free, but has some lacquer wear in spots. It does need a good slide job and the inner slides have areas of wear and corrosion. Comes with a ‘60’s Buescher slim-line case (with keys!) and a worn Olds 3 mouthpiece. There is even an old lyre that came with the horn. The bell itself accepts any standard small-bore Conn slide. I have used it with my 48H and 6H slides – the bell play great – I just have no use with my other small-bores. Make an offer for the whole thing or for the bell or slide alone.

Generic black plastic slim-line case for a straight tenor. It holds up to an 8” bell. Black plush lining and small accessory compartment. In excellent condition. Make an offer.

Gold-plated Bach Megatone 7C mouthpiece. Brand new – in box. I took it out of the plastic and used it for maybe two or three hours and then decide to stick with my old Mt. Vernon 7C. Perfect condition. $50 OBO

I’ll wait until next weekend to post theses on eBay if they have not sold by then. I will have pictures available later tonight. If you have any questions, please feel free to e-mail or call me.

Thanks.

Dilshad Kasmani

dkasmani@mindspring.com

C: 832-541-3405
 From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:43:25 -0800 From: "Rod Ellard" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Crumpets Message-ID: <001001bf8caf$0e8ab500$c7e86395@ellard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF8C6B.FF288C60"
A month or two ago, someone was arranging a blind test of cryogenically treated trumpets.  Has there been a follow-up/conclusion (that I missed)?
 
Rod Ellard
 From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:58:53 EST From: BRASSRX@aol.com To: ellard@sprint.ca, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Crumpets Message-ID: <10.152d09d.25fddd9d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/12/2000 9:37:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, ellard@sprint.ca writes: << A month or two ago, someone was arranging a blind test of cryogenically treated trumpets. Has there been a follow-up/conclusion (that I missed)? Rod Ellard >> Here is the information your looking for, you can view this at: Click here: Play Test Results of the 2000 Cryo Experiment This blind test was result of discussion on the Trumpet Player International Network (TPIN) back in November 1999 from a story printed in the New York Times on Cryogenics. It was decided a type of blind test should be done to see if players could tell the difference. This Internet group organized and found four players willing to donate different makes of trumpets, found three pro and one amateur player to evaluate the test, and even got donations to help defray the shipping cost from the trumpets being sent back and forth. To see the article that got the ball rolling: Click here: For the Musical Alchemist, a New Tack: Cryogenics Wayne Tanabe The Brass Bow Music Co. 101 North Hickory Ave. Arlington Hts. IL 60004 847-253-7552 847-253-0792 fax Brassrx@aol.com www.thebrassbow.com From ???@??? Mon Mar 13 08:03:31 2000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:51:33 PST From: "Aaron Roth" To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Crumpets Message-ID: <20000313065133.26196.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Yes, I cryo-treat crumpets, but only for long-term storage. And if I want to bring one out, I generally raise the temperature rather rapidly. Normally, we call that "freezing" and "thawing/toasting" your crumpet. I blindly tested some, and they all turned out good. :) :p -Aaron Roth >A month or two ago, someone was arranging a blind test of cryogenically >treated trumpets. Has there been a follow-up/conclusion (that I missed)? > >Rod Ellard ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com