TROMBONE-L Digest 1616 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Rath Trombones was Sovereign Trombone by Derrick Parker 2) re: marching band by Neobopr@aol.com 3) For Sale- Gig Bag by Peter Ellefson 4) Recording? by Trmbman@aol.com 5) Lip Problems: Thank You All (list working?) by Topper 6) Dark tone by FOpal@aol.com 7) Re: marching band by Zemry@aol.com 8) Trombonists in Madison, WI by Chris Waage 9) Carl Fontana ? by tom harris 10) Re: Janacek-Capriccio by Hiroyuki Harada 11) Re: Re Bessons... by Topper 12) FA:2 CONN Bari; 1 Olds; asst: trumpets by Topper 13) Re: Lip problems by Topper 14) FA:2 CONN Bari; 1 Olds; asst: trumpets by Topper 15) San Antonio/Austin Tx. area bass trombonists by daboneman 16) Brass Band Situations Wanted for March 2000 by Nigel Horne 17) Re: re. Lip Slurs by Bodie Pfost 18) Volume V of Brown Orch Excerpts by "John Palmer" 19) RE: Dark tone by "Lawrence Borden" 20) Brass Band Situations Vacant for March 2000 by Nigel Horne 21) Re: Dark tone by BassBonist@aol.com 22) Re: Volume V of Brown Orch Excerpts by BassBonist@aol.com 23) concert, Seattle, Mar 10 by David Leep 24) Re: Dark tone by Neobopr@aol.com 25) Alessi to perform Jim Pugh's trombone concerto by Dave Tall 26) ETW tapes? by "Chad Horsley" 27) Looking for email address (help if you can) by "Bryan Hardester" 28) Re: Dark tone by "Steve Beck" 29) trying to locate a friend by "Duane A. Warfield " 30) Re: Sovereign Bass w/Hagmann by Eric and Candice Swanson 31) Re: trying to locate a friend by "Talley, Brian Lee" 32) Re: Slide/Right Arm by hal-starkey@webtv.net (Hal Starkey) 33) Re: Volume V of Brown Orch Excerpts by Brian Whitty 34) Re: Dark tone by "Kenneth Dowdy" 35) Premru Concertino by Tbcwes@aol.com 36) Re: Rath Trombones was Sovereign Trombone by Randy Campora 37) Re: Dark tone by Earl Needham 38) Re: Premru Concertino by James Scott 39) Bach 42 or Conn 88 by FOpal@aol.com 40) Davis Schumann and the Angular Trombone by "Lawrence Borden" 41) Re: Bach 42 or Conn 88 by Chris Waage 42) Re: Dark tone by Beth Lewis From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:36:42 -0500 From: Derrick Parker To: "INTERNET:trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu" Subject: Rath Trombones was Sovereign Trombone Message-ID: <200003041836_MC2-9BD0-F8EA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message text written by Jon. >Speaking of made in England trombones, have you tried one of the Raph custom trombones? What are they like? < Jon. I think you probably mean a Rath trombone. Mick Rath to be precise. I have one of Mick's bass trombones which he made for me tuned to F/G/Eb as opposed to the now normal F/Gb/D tuning. I think a list member (Paul Kemp?) has played it on his visit to the UK when Mick had it in the shop. The instrument is lovely and responsive and what makes it really special are the Hagmann valves. I've also got one of his slides, the tubes of which he draws himself, to fit the bell section of my Roth Reynolds valve trombone. So now I have a Rath Roth Reynolds - how's that for a load of r's? No comments Adrian please! Mick makes a full range of, as yet, Bb instruments but may be embarking on an extension of the range in the near future. These instruments are gaining a reputation in the UK in all fields, classical, brass and wind band and jazz. Mark Nightingale, for example, has been a help on the development of the 1R straight tenor. I suggest you visit the Rath web site - www.rathtrombones.com where you'll find more info. Not only does Mick make superb trombones but he is a thoroughly nice guy, along with the rest of his small team. Regards Derrick Parker From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 07:58:22 EST From: Neobopr@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: re: marching band Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/5/00 3:03:21 AM, tbaldwin@eclipse.net writes: >If there is to be a marching band, there is absolutely no reason to spend >six months rehearsing 10 minutes worth of music. But don't you realize that having a competitive field show is the most important part of the year. :-) J/K! Actually, I agree with you Tobie. Being a former H.S. band director, because of this Marching is king attitude, I took a different approach to marching season. It occurred only during football season. We did a different show at every football game. The visual stuff was the least important thing. We would cadence into a different formation for each song but stand there while playing. My focus was on the music and the push to learn it new each week. During the season the band worked up between 16 adn 24 new songs. We were done in November and could then focus on Concert Band literature. This was totally opposite and contrary to the typical mentality encountered in So. CA. Artist/Clinician for Yamaha-Jeff Adams From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 15:57:56 -0800 From: Peter Ellefson To: Trombone List Subject: For Sale- Gig Bag Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit For sale: Black leather double gig bag for tenor/alto. This is a Dolly Bag and made very well. In addition to the single shoulder strap, this bag has a set of shoulder straps for use like a back pack. It has been used very little and is in excellent condition. $300. I'll pay U.S. shipping. If interested, please contact me off-list. Peter Ellefson sea2bone@earthlink.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:28:34 EST From: Trmbman@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Recording? Message-ID: <3c.1a1de09.25f3c912@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for a recording of Adagio and Allegro by Handel. It is off most state contests list. Any ideas on where to start. I would be for Euphonium or my be trumpet Trombone and Euphonium Player Visit my Webpage at Http://Wactrm.tripod.com or contact me at Trmbman@aol.com From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:29:30 -0500 From: Topper To: Subject: Lip Problems: Thank You All (list working?) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just wanted to say thanks to all for helping out with my "Lip Problems" post as I had not the time to individually. I am a clarinetist and also play somewhere between a trombone and a trumpet, but it's really more like a soprano tuba, or a french horn tuba (I hear) a flugel horn, and I'm not very good with my brasswind embouchure, so I am no great influence. Was there a problem with the list as I had recieved no posts for awhile? Cheers, Leo Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/ "You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data. Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 02:00:45 EST From: FOpal@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Dark tone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I play on a silver trombone and I was told that I might be playing with a slightly brighter tone than I might want. What is a good way to build a stronger darker tone? Thanx Frank Opal From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:34:27 EST From: Zemry@aol.com To: Neobopr@aol.com, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: marching band Message-ID: <54.1ce9d20.25f3d883@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/5/00 9:20:15 AM Central Standard Time, Neobopr@aol.com writes: > Being a former H.S. band director, because > of this Marching is king attitude, I took a different approach to marching > season. It occurred only during football season. We did a different show > at > every football game. This was similar the attitude utilized in my high school when I was a student. Marching band was for football season. Different shows were drawn up each week. However the visual aspects were a key part of the program. Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr. There won't come a time when you won't have to practice anymore. J. J. Johnson From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:45:08 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Trombonists in Madison, WI Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Any list members in the Madison, WI area? I will be there the week of 3/13 to install a computer system for a newspaper. Chris _____________________________________________ Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com Visit the Mouthpiece Exchange at http://www.waageworks.com _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:59:36 -0700 (MST) From: tom harris To: trombone listserv Subject: Carl Fontana ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I will be in Las Vegas March 18-23, 2000. I am wondering if Carl Fontana is playing anywhere in the area during this time period? Also, are there any performances scheduled at Capozzoli's during the same time period. Any other recommendations for entertainment "off the beaten path" would be welcome. You can respond to me off the list. Thanks, Tom Harris tharris@mesastate.edu From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 07:47:06 +0900 From: Hiroyuki Harada To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Janacek-Capriccio Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Beth, You can buy it from www.sheetmusicplus.com. I bought it from sheetmusicplus last year. If you need Piano part, you may order Large score too. Because Set of Parts include "flute, 2 trumpets, tenor tuba, 3 trombones" part and does not include Piano part. Cheers, Hiroyuki Harada Yokohama JAPAN >Hi all, > >Does anyone know where I could purchase the music for Janacek's Capriccio >(for flute, 2 trumpets, tenor tuba, 3 trombones and piano/left hand)? > >Thanks, >Beth Lewis $B!!(B-- -------------------------------------------------------- Hiroyuki Harada E-mail:h-harada@pc.highway.ne.jp From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:13:18 -0500 From: Topper To: Lisa@la-the-duck.demon.co.uk, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Re Bessons... Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" the list does not seem to be working Cheers, Leo Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/ "You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data. Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:08:40 -0500 From: Topper To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: FA:2 CONN Bari; 1 Olds; asst: trumpets Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have to check the boneyard :) >Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:38:27 -0500 >To: Trombone-L >From: Topper >Subject: FA:2 CONN Bari; 1 Olds; asst: trumpets >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >Thanks... > >------------------------------------------------ > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275602674 > >Title of item: Conn Baritone Lady On Bell 1935 Horn n/r >Minimum bid: $89.00 >Reserve price (if any): $0.00 > >------------------------------------------------- >Let the trading begin--your item is listed! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275576222 > >Title of item: CONN Baritone 1952 Horn - no reserve >Minimum bid: $52.00 >Reserve price (if any): $0.00 > >------------------------------------------------- >Let the trading begin--your item is listed! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275585799 > >Title of item: Getzen Trumpet - no reserve! >Minimum bid: $10.00 >Reserve price (if any): $0.00 > >-------------------------------------------------- >Let the trading begin--your item is listed! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275621117 > >Title of item: Blessing Artist Trumpet (good horn) n/r >Minimum bid: $20.00 >Reserve price (if any): $0.00 >----------------------------------------------------- >Let the trading begin--your item is listed! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275449963 > >Title of item: Selmer Trumpet Case Vintage No Reserve >Minimum bid: $10.00 >Reserve price (if any): $0.00 > >------------------------------------------------- >Let the trading begin--your item is listed! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274114834 > >Title of item: Baritone Horn Olds Ambassador Euphonium >Minimum bid: $50.00 >Reserve price (if any): $0.00 > > >there's much more suff at ebay.. take a look twice per week. (see below link) > > Cheers, Leo Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/ "You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data. Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:12:02 -0500 From: Topper To: davetall@sprintmail.com, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Lip problems Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I had no idea this was such a helpful group od individuals. This is very much apprecieted and will be put to good use. I would like to thank everyone here for their help. Leo At 12:32 AM -0700 3/4/00, Dave Tall wrote: >At 11:46 AM 03/02/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>Dear sirs/madams, >> >>I was wondering if anyone there knew of specialists who work with >>balancing a single reed with a brasswind embouchure? >> >>My grandson playes both Trombone and Baritone Sax, has been having >>difficulty at college and neither of his teachers can help. > >Two players who come immediately to mind are Tom Malone and Howard Johnson, >both who reside in New York City. Johnson plays baritone sax and tuba >professionally; Malone plays trombone, trumpet, clarinet, sax, flute, and >other single reeds and brass. I don't know that either of them have >written on the topic, although Malone was featured in an OTJ "10 questions" >interview, which can be found at >http://www.trombone.org/articles/library/10q-tommalone.asp > Cheers, Leo Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/ "You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data. Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:38:27 -0500 From: Topper To: Trombone-L Subject: FA:2 CONN Bari; 1 Olds; asst: trumpets Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks... ------------------------------------------------ http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275602674 Title of item: Conn Baritone Lady On Bell 1935 Horn n/r Minimum bid: $89.00 Reserve price (if any): $0.00 ------------------------------------------------- Let the trading begin--your item is listed! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275576222 Title of item: CONN Baritone 1952 Horn - no reserve Minimum bid: $52.00 Reserve price (if any): $0.00 ------------------------------------------------- Let the trading begin--your item is listed! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275585799 Title of item: Getzen Trumpet - no reserve! 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(see below link) Cheers, Leo Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/ "You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data. Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:06:03 -0600 From: daboneman To: Trombones and related issues forum Subject: San Antonio/Austin Tx. area bass trombonists Message-ID: <38C285EB.264790AE@mciworld.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello list: I need to know who is on the list from the San Antonio/Austin area that play bass trombone OR have a very good low range on large tenor. Please only professional quality players respond to me privately. Dean McCarty freelance trombonist, Houston area From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 09:51:45 +0000 From: Nigel Horne To: brass-band@smsltd.demon.co.uk, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu, brass@quartz.gly.fsu.edu, tuba-l@listserv.vt.edu, tubaeuph@onelist.com Subject: Brass Band Situations Wanted for March 2000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit People listed here are looking for a brass band to play in. To advertise here send details to njh@smsltd.demon.co.uk in the form: Name, Position sought, Location, E-Mail address, WWW address. All of the people listed here are amateur musicians and give their time freely. They will neither charge a fee or claim expenses. Professional and semi-professional entries can be found on the Professional Cards page, http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk/professional.htm. Other points as per the vacancy list. Jason Welch (posted 6/1/00) Cornet Brussels, BELGIUM jason_welch@computacenter.com Katherine Pegler (posted 24/1/00) Horn Bristol, AVON, UK kp9175@bristol.ac.uk Robert Richardson (posted 22/1/00) Percussion CHESHIRE, UK robertrichardson@hotmail.com Johann Mintoff (posted 5/12/99) Euphonium Southampton, HAMPSHIRE, UK j.mintoff@thespecialists.co.uk Erik van der Eijk (updated 20/2/00) Trombone LONDON, UK e_van_der_eijk@hotmail.com Paul Cheetham (posted 22/1/00) Back row cornet Prenton, MERSEYSIDE, UK AEdson@norgrenit.com Shelly Hill (posted 27/2/00) Bass trombone NORTH YORKSHIRE, UK shelleyhill@earlhamlaw.freeserve.co.uk Matthew Smith (posted 5/12/99) Soprano Coventry, WEST MIDLANDS, UK matthew.smith12@virgin.net Mike Garbett (posted 20/2/00) Flugel WEST MIDLANDS, UK mike@mikegarbett.demon.co.uk Matthew Fearn (posted 22/12/99) Cornet Leeds, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK MJFearn@mfearn.freeserve.co.uk Sergei Motorniy (posted 6/2/00) Trombone Odessa, UKRAINE great_max@mail.od.ua -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Conductor, Typesetter. Owner of the brass band group of the Internet. ICQ#20252325 njh@smsltd.demon.co.uk http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk/music.htm postmaster@127.0.0.1 abuse@127.0.0.1 postmaster@loopback.com abuse@loopback.com njh%smsltd.demon.co.uk@nospam.demon.co.uk From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:06 2000 Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 14:09:50 -0800 From: Bodie Pfost To: Trombone Mailing List Subject: Re: re. Lip Slurs Message-ID: <38C189AE.9447793F@wcinet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or, you could buy the Remington Warmup Routines book. Bodie Pfost Chris Waage wrote: > Start on Bb, top of the staff. Slur to D above, then back down in > eighth notes, working for accuracy, not speed. > (Common time) > > 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + hold > Bb-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-Bb > > Move to 2nd position (A to C#). > 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + hold > A-C#-A-C#-A-C#-A-C#-A-C#-A-C#-A-C#-A > > Continue down to 7th position. > 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + hold > E-G#-E-G#-E-G#-E-G#-E-G#-E-G#-E-G#-E > > Then stay in 7th and move up one partial: > 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + hold > G#-B-G#-B-G#-B-G#-B-G#-B-G#-B-G#-B-G# > > Moving back up, position by position to: > 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + hold > D-F-D-F-D-F-D-F-D-F-D-F-D-F-D > > Then do this pattern: > 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + hold > Bb-D-Bb-D-F-D-F-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-F-D-F-D-Bb-D-Bb-D-F-D-F-D-Bb > > Continuing down to 7th position. > > Slow, even, using a metronome. Work for accuracy and smoothness of > the slur. Don't use your eyebrows to make the slurs happen. > > Track your progress using a metronome. > > There are many other variations on the slurs, but these are the basic > ones. If you'd like a notation example, e-mail and I'll make some > jpgs of my workbook pages. > > Chris > _____________________________________________ > Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com > Visit the Mouthpiece Exchange at > http://www.waageworks.com > _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:32:41 -0500 From: "John Palmer" To: "Trombone List Contributions" Subject: Volume V of Brown Orch Excerpts Message-ID: <005201bf86c0$6d96b7a0$fe488d18@kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear bonelist I am looking for Volume V of the International/Brown Orch Excerpts series. Southern doesn't have any...neither does King. Does anybody know where I can get a copy? Cheers John Palmer Kingston From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:46:24 -0600 From: "Lawrence Borden" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: RE: Dark tone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank, Let me ask you (and the list) a question. What exactly does "dark tone" mean to you? I have my own opinion, but I would like to hear what "dark tone" means to various members of the list when they have to explain what they mean by this phrase in other words. Larry Lawrence Borden Nashville Symphony Orchestra Vanderbilt University office: (615) 322-7651 home: (615) 255-4191 fax: (615) 259-2753 email: Lawrence.Borden@Home.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu [mailto:owner-trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu]On Behalf Of FOpal@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 1:01 AM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Dark tone I play on a silver trombone and I was told that I might be playing with a slightly brighter tone than I might want. What is a good way to build a stronger darker tone? Thanx Frank Opal From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 09:47:20 +0000 From: Nigel Horne To: brass-band@smsltd.demon.co.uk, trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu, brass@quartz.gly.fsu.edu, tuba-l@listserv.vt.edu, tubaeuph@onelist.com Subject: Brass Band Situations Vacant for March 2000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This list is periodically posted to the following mailing lists: Brass Band Tuba-Euphonium Trombone Brass Tuba and to the following newsgroups: rec.music.classical.performing alt.music.band-director rec.music.makers.bands alt.music.makers.available-wanted alt.music.tuba alt.music.trombone For the most up to date list, visit http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk. To advertise a vacancy here fill out the form on-line at http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk/vform.htm Vacancies will be deleted after 3 months and are listed in order of Country, County/State/Province and Town. Yagoona District (updated 2/1/00) Sydney, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA Section 3 All players welcome Ian Stenning yagoonaband@hotmail.com http://www.kbdnet.net.au/madonnet City of Greater Dandenong (posted 29/1/00) Melbourne, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA Section 1 2nd cornet, 2nd trombone; all players welcome Roy Taylor rtaylor@oz.quest.com Kew Band (posted 19/2/00) Melbourne, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA Championship Section Tutti cornet, flugel, Eb bass Mark Ford bandfordm@yahoo.com http://www.kewband.org.com.au Moreland Brunswick (posted 19/2/00) Melbourne, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA Championship Section Bass trombone, Eb bass, percussion Mark Ford bandfordm@yahoo.com Woods Mfg. Co. Brass Band (updated 17/12/99) Ottawa, ONTARIO, CANADA Non contesting All players welcome Harold Floysvik hal@nortelnetworks.com Amsterdam Brass (posted 19/2/00) Amsterdam, NOORD HOLLAND, NETHERLANDS Section 1 Cornets Alex Silvis a.silvis@uni-one.nl Brassband Schoonhoven (posted 14/2/00) Schoonhoven, ZUID HOLLAND, NETHERLANDS Championship Section Bb bass, percussion Ineke van Kapel inekevankapel@yahoo.com http://www.trefzeker.nl/bb.schoonhoven Menai Bridge Band (posted 15/1/00) Menai Bridge, ANGLESEY, UK Section 3 Baritone, trombine, basses, percussion; all players welcome Kathleen heath band@bronceris.demon.co.uk, muu41e@bangor.ac.uk http://bronceris.demon.co.uk Ballymena Silver Band (posted 6/2/00) Ballymena, ANTRIM, UK Non contesting Cornets, euphonium Eric Russell merussell@talk21.com Portishead Town Band (updated 20/12/99) Portishead, AVON, UK Section 4 All players welcome Paul Field paul@portisheadtownband.freeserve.co.uk http://www.portisheadtownband.freeserve.co.uk Newmilns and Galston (posted 17/2/00) Galston, AYRSHIRE, UK Section 1 All players welcome Alan Cameron algcam@yahoo.com Marsh Gibbon Silver (posted 15/1/00) Bicester, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome George Walker george_mo@barclays.net Denham Hendon brass (updated 2/1/00) Denham, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, UK Championship Section Principal Cornet, baritone, basses Gerry Whitlow gerrywhitlow@compuserve.com http://www.denham-hendon-brass.org Wicken Coronation Band (posted 12/2/00) Wicken, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, UK Section 4 Conductor, bass, percussion David Cameron david@adjuvants.freeserve.co.uk http://www.wicken-band.fsnet.co.uk City of Chester (updated 26/2/00) Chester, CHESHIRE, UK Section 4 Cornets, baritone, Bb bass Christopher Barnes christopher.barnes@which.net http://www.chesterbrass.co.uk City of Chester (updated 14/1/00) Chester, CHESHIRE, UK Youth section Cornets, horn, trombones, Eb bass Christopher Barnes christopher.barnes@which.net City of Chester Training Band (posted 26/2/00) Chester, CHESHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome Christopher Barnes chrsitopher.barnes@which.net Ashton under Lyne (posted 24/1/00) Dukinfield, CHESHIRE, UK Championship Section Bb Bass Phil Ramsden philram@hotmail.com United Norwest Crewe (updated 22/1/00) Crewe, CHESHIRE, UK Section 2 Cornet, trombone Andr Helleur alexhelleur@hotmail.com Oldham Brass (posted 1/2/00) Hyde, CHESHIRE, UK Section 2 Euphonium Andy White awhitemd@aol.com Stalybridge Band (posted 15/1/00) Stalybridge, CHESHIRE, UK Championship Section Principal cornet, euphoinium Susan Lever kevin.lever@ic24.net Reddish and Gorton Band (updated 14/1/00) Stockport, CHESHIRE, UK Non contesting Cornets Richard Barrett rbarrett@stockport37.freeserve.co.uk St Austell Kernow (posted 15/1/00) St Austell, CORNWALL, UK Section 2 Cornets, 1st baritone, percussion Peter Minear minicorn@tinyworld.co.uk St Austell Town Band (posted 17/1/00) St Austell, CORNWALL, UK Championship Section Principal and tutti cornets, euphonium, bass, percussion Chris North chrisnorth@talk21.com St. Keverne Senion and Youth (posted 5/12/99) St. Keverne, CORNWALL, UK Section 1 Tutti cornet; all players welcome Alan Retallack brosky@cwcom.net Flookburgh Band (posted 26/2/00) Grange-over-sands, CUMBRIA, UK Section 1 Baritones, basses Neal Rowlandson neal87@hotmail.com Llangollen Silver Band (posted 8/1/00) Llangollen, DENBIGHSHIRE, UK Non contesting Cornets, horns, basses Rhys Lloyd rhyslloyd@hotmail.com Thorntons Brass (posted 24/12/99) Belper, DERBYSHIRE, UK Championship Section Principal cornet Darryl Jackson mbxdj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk http://www.thorntonsbrass.fsnet.co.uk Chapel-en-le-Frith Town Band (updated 6/1/00) Chapel-en-le-Frith, DERBYSHIRE, UK Section 2 Front row cornet, horn, baritone, Eb bass Andrew Dodd andrew@dodd47.freeserve.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/vienna/studio/5645 Rhodian Brass (updated 1/2/00) Chesterfield, DERBYSHIRE, UK Championship Section Tutti cornet, 2nd horn Shaun Guttridge sguttridge@aol.com Glossop Old Band (posted 6/12/99) Glossop, DERBYSHIRE, UK Championship Section Conductor, tutti cornet, euphonium Don Cooper don.cooper@micromass.co.uk http://www.GlossopBand.demon.co.uk Blandford Stour Valley Band (posted 17/12/99) Blandford Forum, DORSET, UK Non contesting Soprano, cornet, baritone, euphonium; all players welcome Ann Harvey ann.harvey@nationwideisp.net Bournemouth Concert Brass (updated 6/1/00) Bournemouth, DORSET, UK Championship Section 2nd trombone, percussion Colin Williams bdl.systems-colin@virgin.net Sherborne Town Band (posted 22/1/00) Sherborne, DORSET, UK Section 1 Tutti cornet, percussion Mike Whitburn mwhitburn@lineone.net http://website.lineone.net/~mwhitburn/stb2.htm Ever Ready (updated 5/3/00) Stanley, COUNTY DURHAM, UK Championship Section Eb Bass Les Palmer er.band@btinternet.com http://www.btinternet.com/~er.band Uckfield Concert Brass (updated 24/12/99) Uckfield, EAST SUSSEX, UK Section 1 Tutti cornet, flugel, bass trombone, percussion Geoff Collins gsx_geoff@hotmail.com http://www.awooler.demon.co.uk/uckfield.htm Driffield Band (posted 5/12/99) Driffield, EAST YORKSHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome Andy Grace malwel@aol.com Aveley and Newham (posted 5/12/99) Aveley, ESSEX, UK Championship Section Soprano, Bb bass Cliff Pask cliffpask@aol.com Thurrock Spectrum Brass (posted 27/2/00) Grays, ESSEX, UK Section 4 Soprano, euphonium, Eb bass Claire Stroud maestro-ud@supanet.com http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/4582 Hadstock Silver (posted 22/12/99) Hadstock, ESSEX, UK Section 4 Conductor, cornets John Green jrg@nortelnetworks.com Harlow Brass Band (posted 24/1/00) Harlow, ESSEX, UK Section 4 Cornets, horns, percussion Mandy Kerr skerr@essex89.freeserve.co.uk Tilbury (posted 29/1/00) Tilbury, ESSEX, UK Section 2 Cornets, percussion Colin Morrison colin.m@onet.co.uk Bristol East Band (updated 15/1/00) Bristol, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, UK Section 2 Tutti cornets Colin Amos colin.amos@which.net http://www.epost/charities/bristoleast Cinderford (posted 19/1/00) Lydney, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, UK Championship Section Cornet, Euphonium David Jones davidzjones@hotmail.com Alder Valley Brass (updated 2/1/00) Aldershot, HAMPSHIRE, UK Championship Section Cornets Mike Ball mball@murata.co.uk New Forest Brass (updated 29/1/00) Marchwood, HAMPSHIRE, UK Section 3 Euphonium, percussion Ted Howard thoward34@aol.com Cosham Concert Brass (posted 19/2/00) Portsmouth, HAMPSHIRE, UK Section 2 Bass Trombone Steve Dunster cosham.concert@breathemail.net http://users.breathemail.net/cosham.concert Portsmouth City Band (updated 20/12/99) Portsmouth, HAMPSHIRE, UK Non contesting Cornets, Bb bass; all players welcome Gary Millard gary.millard@cwcom.net http://www.portsmouthcityband.cwc.net Ocean Brass (updated 20/1/00) Southampton, HAMPSHIRE, UK Section 2 Principal cornet, 1st trombone Kevin Mackie mackiek@shs.port.ac.uk City of Winchester (posted 15/1/00) Southampton, HAMPSHIRE, UK Section 3 Tutti cornets; all players welcome Liz Williams eaw@tesco.net Atlas Copco Band (updated 20/12/99) Hemel Hempstead, HERTFORDSHIRE, UK Section 4 Principal cornet Stuart Ward conquest@cix.co.uk Potters Bar Town Band (updated 12/1/00) Potters Bar, HERTFORDSHIRE, UK Section 4 Cornets, horns; All players welcome Terry Alderson terrya@tesco.net Band of The Island of Jersey (posted 17/12/99) St Helier, JERSEY, UK Non contesting Horns, baritones, trombones, basses, percussion Jason Mildren jmildren@psilink.co.uk http://www.bioj.demon.co.uk North Kent Brass (posted 26/1/00) Crayford, KENT, UK Non contesting All players welcome Faye Goodwin faye.goodwin@ukgateway.net Betteshanger Welfare (updated 22/1/00) Deal, KENT, UK Section 1 Conductor; all players welcome Dennis Atkinson dennis@compuserve.com.uk http://Betteshanger.org East Peckham Silver Band (posted 26/2/00) East Peckham, KENT, UK Non contesting Back row cornets, 2nd horn, baritone, euphonium Jill Cox jill@hadlowplace.freeserve.co.uk Whitstable Brass (posted 17/12/99) Whitstable, KENT, UK Section 4 All players welcome Sheila Holness s.m.holness@ukc.ac.uk Blackburn and Darwen Band (posted 8/2/00) Blackburn, LANCASHIRE, UK Section 1 Percussion Alan Thomas alan@tomkids2.freeserve.co.uk Walkden (posted 1/2/00) Bolton, LANCASHIRE, UK Section 2 Solo cornet, 1st trombone, percussion Iain Roscoe iain@roscoe29.freeserve.co.uk Poulton le Fylde Band (updated 20/12/99) Poulton, LANCASHIRE, UK Section 2 Solo horn, bass trombone, Eb bass Andy Moore andy@ascot.u-net.com http://www.ascot.u-net.com/home/Band.htm Lancastrian Brigade Band (posted 1/2/00) Preston, LANCASHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome David Redman davidredman@onet.co.uk Lostock Hall Memorial Band (updated 20/12/99) Preston, LANCASHIRE, UK Section 3 Bass trombone Graham Martin marting@edgehill.ac.uk Burbage Silver Band (posted 17/2/00) Hinckley, LEICESTERSHIRE, UK Section 4 Trombones; all players welcome Debbie Boss burbagesilverband@hotmail.com Enderby Brass Band (updated 17/2/00) Leicester, LEICESTERSHIRE, UK Section 1 Cornet, Eb bass Stuart Gadsden sgadsden@dmu.ac.uk http://www.iesd.dmu.ac.uk/~sgadsden/enderbybnd1.html Enderby Youth and Junior Bands (updated 17/2/00) Leicester, LEICESTERSHIRE, UK Youth section All players welcome Stuart Gadsden sgadsden@dmu.ac.uk http://www.iesd.dmu.ac.uk/~sgadsden/enderbybnd1.html Unity Brass (updated 14/1/00) Leicester, LEICESTERSHIRE, UK Championship Section Cornets, Eb bass Jan Fox janfox@castorsupply.co.uk GUS (posted 20/12/99) Market Harborough, LEICESTERSHIRE, UK Championship Section Back row cornets, flugel, basses, percussion Colin Randle colin.randle@cwcom.net http://www.BrassBand.cwc.net Harborough Band (posted 22/1/00) Market Harborough, LEICESTERSHIRE, UK Section 2 Tutti Cornet Peter Vine harboroughband@yahoo.co.uk Barrow Concert Band (posted 20/12/99) Barrow-On-Humber, LINCOLNSHIRE, UK Section 2 Soprano, Bb bass Helen Kerridge helen@kerridge.karoo.co.uk City of Lincoln Band (posted 5/3/00) Lincoln, LINCOLNSHIRE, UK Section 4 Cornet, trombone; all players welcome Kathleen Gallagher dmouse@ukonline.co.uk Foss Dyke Band (updated 1/2/00) Waddington, LINCOLNSHIRE, UK Section 1 Back row cornets Simon Oates fossdyke@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/fossdyke/ Staines Brass (updated 11/1/00) Staines, LONDON, UK Section 1 Soprano, 2nd trombone, percussion Ewan Campbell ewan_campbell@biocompatibles.co.uk Waltham Forest Co-op Band (updated 5/3/00) Waltham Forest, LONDON, UK Section 3 Cornets Martin Dawe martin.dawe@rebusgroup.com http://www.wfcb.co.uk Heywood and Middleton Brass Band (posted 19/1/00) MANCHESTER, UK Non contesting All players welcome Jonathan Coxell j.p.coxell@bradford.ac.uk http://www.middletonband.co.uk Middleton Brass Band (posted 19/1/00) MANCHESTER, UK Section 4 Baritones, trombones, basses; all players welcome Jonathan Coxell j.p.coxell@bradford.ac.uk http://www.middletonband.co.uk Denton Brass (updated 27/2/00) Denton, MANCHESTER, UK Non contesting Solo cornet, 1st horn, basses Paul Keogh dentonbrass@hotmail.com Leigh Silver Band (posted 19/2/00) Leigh, MANCHESTER, UK Section 4 Conductor, soprano, cornets, trombones, percussion; all players welcome Darren Eckersley darren@leighband.co.uk http://www.leighband.co.uk/ Greenfield Brass Band (updated 22/1/00) Saddleworth, MANCHESTER, UK Section 3 Bass trombone, Bb bass, percussion Robert Dunning theacrobat8@aol.com Greenfield Junior Band (posted 5/3/00) Saddleworth, MANCHESTER, UK Non contesting All players welcome Robert Dunning theacrobat8@aol.com Grimsdyke Brass Harrow (updated 20/12/99) Harrow, MIDDLESEX, UK Section 2 Tutti cornet, solo horn, 2nd baritone, percussion Jawad Mughal grimsdyke_brass@cheerful.com Abergavenny Borough Band (updated 5/3/00) Abergavenny, MONMOUTHSHIRE, UK Section 1 Bass Donna Compton dcompton@mindless.com http://www.abband.ndo.co.uk Kings Lynn Town Band (posted 5/12/99) Kings Lynn, NORFOLK, UK Section 3 Cornets and Bb bass; all players welcom Jeanette Scales jscales@klshosp.anglox.nhs.uk Cawston Band (posted 8/2/00) Norwich, NORFOLK, UK Section 2 Cornet, Bb bass, percussion Mark Peck cawstonband@iname.com http://cawstonband.tripod.com Corby Silver Band (posted 19/2/00) Corby, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE, UK Section 4 Cornets, 2nd baritone, percussion Scott Morton scott@morton50.freeserve.co.uk Carlton Brass (updated 5/3/00) Carlton, NOTTINGHAM, UK Section 4 Euphonium, Bb bass, percussion Tony Wilson tony.wilson@dsltd.co.uk http://www.carltonbrass.co.uk Chalgrove Band (posted 22/1/00) Chalgrove, OXFORDSHIRE, UK Section 4 Cornets, basses; all players welcome Nigel Hall nigel@hall-home67.freeserve.co.uk City of Oxford Silver Band (posted 5/12/99) Oxford, OXFORDSHIRE, UK Championship Section Tutti cornet, bass Alan MacRae alan@dragonmusic.freeserve.co.uk City of Oxford Training Band (posted 5/12/99) Oxford, OXFORDSHIRE, UK Section 4 Soprano, trombones, bass, percussion Alan MacRae alan@dragonmusic.freeserve.co.uk Wantage Silver (updated 5/12/99) Wantage, OXFORDSHIRE, UK Section 2 Cornet, trombone Martin Taylor m.taylor@elsevier.co.uk http://www.wantage-silver-band.freeserve.co.uk Wantage Silver 'B' (updated 5/12/99) Wantage, OXFORDSHIRE, UK Non contesting Conductor, tutti cornet, baritone Martin Taylor m.taylor@elsevier.co.uk http://www.wantage-silver-band.freeserve.co.uk Llwydcoed Band (posted 6/1/00) Aberdare, RHONNDA CYNON TAFF, UK Section 4 Front row cornets, horns; all players welcome Geraint Davies gdaviesgld99@cs.com Tylorstown Valley Lines Band (posted 20/1/00) Tylorstown, RHONNDA CYNON TAFF, UK Section 1 Cornet, euphonium, percussion Christian Jenkins jenkinsc4@cardiff.ac.uk http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2517 Highley Brass Band (posted 26/2/00) Bridgnorth, SHROPSHIRE, UK Non contesting Eb bass, percussion; all players welcome Denise Romeo den@bragginslye.fsnet.co.uk Adams Grammar School Brass Band (posted 3/1/00) Newport, SHROPSHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome Tim Parker theparkers@mapperleyorchard.freeserve.co.uk Jackfield Elcock Reisen Band (posted 17/2/00) Telford, SHROPSHIRE, UK Section 1 2nd trombone, bass trombone Simon Holland simon-holland@lineone.net Wem Jubilee Band (posted 14/12/99) Wem, SHROPSHIRE, UK Section 4 Soprano, Eb bass Bob Barker brassneck@rjbarker.freeserve.co.uk Portishead Town Band (posted 24/1/00) Portishead, SOMERSET, UK Section 4 Basses Paul Field paul@portisheadtownband.freeserve.co.uk http://www.portisheadtownband.freeserve.co.uk Wellington Silver Band (posted 20/1/00) Wellington, SOMERSET, UK Section 4 Baritone, euphonium, basses Penny Morgan wsb@wsband.fsnet.co.uk http://www.wsband.fsnet.co.uk Weston Brass (posted 15/1/00) Weston Super Mare, SOMERSET, UK Section 1 Flugel, baritone; all players welcome Mark Smith weston-band@u.genie.co.uk Cawthorne Brass Band (posted 27/2/00) Barnsley, SOUTH YORKSHIRE, UK Non contesting Soprano, tutti cornets, baritone, bass trombone, Bb bass Helen Hardcastle h.m.hardcastle@talk21.com Oughtibridge (posted 26/2/00) Sheffield, SOUTH YORKSHIRE, UK Section 4 Back row cornets, 2nd trombone, percussion John Linton jongliss@aol.com http://www.oughtibridgebb.freeserve.co.uk City of Stoke Brass (posted 19/2/00) Stoke-on-trent, STAFFORDSHIRE, UK Section 2 Cornets, Bb bass Gary Boden gboden77@yahoo.com http://www.stokebrass.com Stowmarket Concert Band (updated 20/12/99) Stowmarket, SUFFOLK, UK Non contesting Bb bass, percussion; all players welcome Chris Ainger chris_ainger@agilent.com Woking Brass Band (posted 25/1/00) Chertsey, SURREY, UK Section 2 2nd horn, baritones, euphonium, Bb bass, percussion; all players welcome Sue Randell randsue@supanet.com http://members.xoom.com/wokingbrass Epsom & Ewell Band (updated 5/12/99) Epsom, SURREY, UK Section 2 Cornets, Eb bass David Richards david.richards@djrmusic.co.uk http://www.epsomewellband.free-online.co.uk Haslemere Town Band (updated 5/3/00) Haslemere, SURREY, UK Section 4 Tutti cornets, percussion; all players welcome Graham Wade Graham_Wade@CORALSys.co.uk http://www.coralsys.co.uk/HTB Pontypool Brass (updated 19/2/00) Pontypool, TORFAEN, UK Section 3 Soprano, cornets, flugel, Bb bass, percussion Gareth Vaughan pontypoolbrass@lineone.net http://website.lineone.net/~pontypoolbrass Backworth Colliery Band (updated 19/2/00) Backworth, TYNE & WEAR, UK Section 4 Percussion Teresa Harris Teresa@backworth.org.uk http://www.backworth.org.uk Ponteland Brass (posted 6/2/00) Ponteland, TYNE & WEAR, UK Section 1 Principal cornet, 2nd trombone, Eb bass Lee R Tomlins lee_tomlins@my-deja.com Loughor Town Band (updated 6/1/00) Swansea, WEST GLAMORGAN, UK Section 4 Cornet, solo horn, trombone; all players welcome Colin Thomas colinthomasbrassbandconductor@tinyworld.co.uk Willenhall Brass Band (updated 27/12/99) Walsall, WEST MIDLANDS, UK Non contesting All players welcome Anthony James anthony.james1@virgin.net Yorkshire Building Society Junior Band (posted 5/3/00) Bradford, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome Stuart Derrick sderri@tesco.net Drighlington Juniors (posted 23/1/00) Cleckheaton, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Youth section Conductor Billy Rushworth w.rushworth@lightningoil.freeeserve.co.uk Elland Silver Band (updated 6/1/00) Elland, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Section 2 Tutti cornets, repiano, flugel, trombones Kathleen Harrison hkprocess@compuserve.com Huddersfield Brass (updated 17/12/99) Huddersfield, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Section 2 Cornets, 1st baritone, Bb bass, percussion; all players welcome Alan Jazwinski alan.jaz@net.ntl.com http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk/huddersfield.htm Huddersfield Brass Youth and Junior Bands (posted 17/12/99) Huddersfield, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Non contesting All players welcome Alan Jazwinski alan.jaz@net.ntl.com Skelmanthorpe (posted 6/1/00) Huddersfield, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Championship Section Bb bass Graham Blue graham.blue@lineone.net Frickley South Elmsall (posted 17/12/99) South Elmsall, WEST YORKSHIRE Section 2 Cornets, trombones, euphoniums, percussion Bob Fowler r.w.f@tesco.net Lofthouse Youth (posted 29/1/00) Wakefield, WEST YORKSHIRE, UK Non contesting Front row cornets, horns, Bb basses Andrew Whitaker andrew.multiprint@free-online.net Woodfalls Concert Brass (updated 2/1/00) Salisbury, WILTSHIRE, UK Section 2 Soprano, tutti cornets, solo horn, Bb bass, percussion; all players welcome Lucy Duffell katyduffell@talk21.com -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Conductor, Typesetter. Owner of the brass band group of the Internet. ICQ#20252325 njh@smsltd.demon.co.uk http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk/music.htm postmaster@127.0.0.1 abuse@127.0.0.1 postmaster@loopback.com abuse@loopback.com njh%smsltd.demon.co.uk@nospam.demon.co.uk From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:09:40 EST From: BassBonist@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Dark tone Message-ID: <1e.23a6392.25f3fce4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lawrence Borden asks: << What exactly does "dark tone" mean to you? >> The question has been asked before but the answer I gave about a year ago was something like this: "Dark" tone contains a predominant mix of low and middle harmonics in the sound, versus mid and upper harmonics in the sound which is usually perceived as "bright." I phrase it this way so I don't cloud the issue; this represents my thinking on tone unrelated to certain other value judgments like "dull" and "edgy." I separate these concepts from dark and bright because that are not synonymous. It is possible to play with a "dark" sound and yet project and have a lively, non "dull" quality. And "edge" is strictly defined as harmonic distortion. A bright sound on a brass instrument does not necessarily have to have "edge" or harmonic distortion in order to be termed "bright." Cheers, Matt Varho bass trombonist Aliso Viejo Symphony, Ca. From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:11:50 EST From: BassBonist@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Volume V of Brown Orch Excerpts Message-ID: <6c.1e783d6.25f3fd66@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit johntbone@home.com writes: << I am looking for Volume V of the International/Brown Orch Excerpts series. Southern doesn't have any...neither does King. Does anybody know where I can get a copy? >> International/Bourne music publishers are in New York. You may be able to buy from the publisher direct. Have you tried Hickey's? Matt Varho bass trombonist Aliso Viejo Symphony, Ca. From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:26:44 -0800 From: David Leep To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: concert, Seattle, Mar 10 Message-ID: <38C2A6E4.A69134EF@uswest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Notice to those of you near Seattle: At the next concert of the Seattle Symphonic Band, we will have a special guest soloist: Peter Ellefson, performing the Trombone Concerto (op. 114b) by Derek Bourgeois. The concert starts at 8 pm, Friday March 10. (There are no tickets, only a suggested $5 donation. So far we have never filled the house, but this time might be different, so you may want to arrive a little early.) Location: Concert Hall, North Seattle Community College, 9600 College Way N., Seattle, Washington. The building with the concert hall is on the west side of campus, about midway from north to south. David Leep, 3rd tbn. From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:28:29 EST From: Neobopr@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Dark tone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I play on a silver trombone and I was told that I might be playing with a >slightly brighter tone than I might want. What is a good way to build a >stronger darker tone? Frank, Before we can give you any suggestions of substance, we need to know the bore size of the horn. Artist/Clinician for Yamaha-Jeff Adams From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 12:47:50 -0700 From: Dave Tall To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Alessi to perform Jim Pugh's trombone concerto Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000305124750.00a17e20@mail.sprintmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From a message I received from Joe and haven't seen here: I would like to take this opportunity to announce Joseph Alessi's performances of the Jim Pugh Trombone Concerto. Mr. Alessi will be performing the New York premiere on March 9, 10, and 11 in Avery Fisher Hall accompanied by the New York Philharmonic, Leonard Slatkin conducting. On Thursday, March 9th, 8:00 PM EST, Time Warner will be hosting a live radio broadcast of this concert. For a complete list of radio stations that will broadcast this event, please go to: http://www.nyphilharmonic.org/recordings/time_carriage.htm Dave Tall Bass Trombonist New Mexico Symphony From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:36:05 -0800 From: "Chad Horsley" To: , Subject: ETW tapes? Message-ID: <001201bf86fb$9416d1e0$3996fea9@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF86B8.853C76E0"
Will there be tapes of the ETW performances?
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 From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:20:03 -0500 From: "Bryan Hardester" To: "Trombone List" Subject: Looking for email address (help if you can) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I am searching for an email or contact number for Douglas Sparkes who I believe is in the Vancouver area. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Bryan From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:35:55 -0500 From: "Steve Beck" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dark tone Message-ID: <00dd01bf86f3$39de2d20$16320923@becks.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: FOpal@aol.com What is a good way to build a stronger darker tone? Easiest way is to switch to a bigger mouthpiece. You can go to a mouthpiece with a bigger throat and keep the same cup size and make quite a difference. -Steve From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:47:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Duane A. Warfield " To: Tombone-L Subject: trying to locate a friend Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello- I am trying to locate a trombone player by the name Derrick Jackson. I met him at All-State in Illinois in 1996. Last I heard he was attending Florida A&M. Any information would be appreciated. DAW From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:41:56 +0000 From: Eric and Candice Swanson Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Sovereign Bass w/Hagmann Message-ID: <38C29C61.20F7644B@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy Green wrote: > To ask an expansion on the question of the Sovereign tenor w/Hagmann valves, > > Has anyone played on or use a Bass with the Hagmann valves? Kathy, I have play on one a little bit and wasn't overly impressed. But, try one for yourself. Eric Swanson Dallas Opera Orchestra From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:53:20 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Talley, Brian Lee" To: cudaw6@mail.pen.eiu.edu Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: trying to locate a friend Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I also was in All-State in IL in '96 for Euphonium. Was your friend in Jazz, Orchestra, or Band? I might know somebody that would know him or know how to get in contact with him. Brian On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:47:31 -0600 (CST) "Duane A. Warfield " wrote: > Hello- > I am trying to locate a trombone player by the name Derrick > Jackson. I met him at All-State in Illinois in 1996. Last I heard he was > attending Florida A&M. Any information would be appreciated. > DAW > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Talley, Brian Lee Vanderbilt University Email: brian.l.talley@Vanderbilt.Edu From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:33:56 -0600 (CST) From: hal-starkey@webtv.net (Hal Starkey) To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Slide/Right Arm Message-ID: <24165-38C31914-8156@storefull-174.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) On March 3, 2000 Beth Lewis wrote- I've noticed that some professional trombonists hold their instruments so that they are pointed slightly to their right (by turning their heads slightly), presumably to better facilitate the natural throw of the arm (i.e., extending the right arm slightly to the right seems to be more natural for us than the usual practice--straight to the front). I've also noticed many college students who did something like this, except that the trombone itself was always angled away from their faces (how one plays like this is not clear to me...). So my question here is, does anyone know if playing with the head turned to the right slightly as some pros do has any potential pitfuls? _________________________ Hi Beth and Everyone- I think it was in the 1950's a trombonist by the name of Davis Schuman concocted an instrument known as the "angular trombone." What he did was to have a straight trombone slide slightly angled to the right. The reasoning being - there is somewhat better virtuosity or technique (or something) with the arm extending that direction. I don't know about anatomy, but it does seem the arm goes out farther to the side than it does out front. It sounds awkward to me! His mouthpiece was straight and the angle started at the shank. I don't know if anyone else had one or if these were ever marketed. My only knowledge of the horn is from a picture I once saw of it on a old LP cover featuring Mr. Schuman. It was hard to tell how the thing worked. Personally, I play straight ahead and set my music stand to the right. And I don't think I know anyone that plays with their head turned to the right...............or left. Hal From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:47:13 -0600 From: Brian Whitty To: BassBonist@aol.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Volume V of Brown Orch Excerpts Message-ID: <38C31C31.A9E38AA1@concentric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are the International Excerpt Books back in print? They were out of print for a long time because of the GATT agreements. Brian Whitty BassBonist@aol.com wrote: > johntbone@home.com writes: > > << I am looking for Volume V of the International/Brown Orch Excerpts series. > Southern doesn't have any...neither does King. Does anybody know where I > can get a copy? >> > > International/Bourne music publishers are in New York. You may be able to > buy from the publisher direct. Have you tried Hickey's? > > Matt Varho > bass trombonist > Aliso Viejo Symphony, Ca. From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:54:28 -0600 From: "Kenneth Dowdy" To: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dark tone Message-ID: <005d01bf8717$4bf66620$461a0f3f@default> Frank, You were told that you MIGHT be playing with a SLIGHTLY brighter tone than you MIGHT want???? What do YOU think about your tone? If you ARE playing with a brighter tone than you REALLY want, try a deeper cup, a heavier mouthpiece, or a bit larger backbore. Otherwise, if you are happy with your tone, tell whoever told you the above that he or she MIGHT consider giving you advice after they learn to accurately read your mind ;-) Best I can do under the influence of massive doses of cold medication. Ken Dowdy -----Original Message----- From: FOpal@aol.com To: Trombones and related issues forum. Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: Dark tone >I play on a silver trombone and I was told that I might be playing with a >slightly brighter tone than I might want. What is a good way to build a >stronger darker tone? Thanx > >Frank Opal From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:49:51 EST From: Tbcwes@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Premru Concertino Message-ID: <76.1f5834f.25f476cf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know where I might find a recording of the Premru Concertino? -Wes From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 21:55:54 -0500 From: Randy Campora To: DerrickParker@compuserve.com, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Rath Trombones was Sovereign Trombone Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000305214430.009b2d60@mail.telephonet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I got an email this week from the Rath shop telling me that they had just shipped two basses with Hagmann valves to Dillion's Music in the New York City area (It think they are actually in New Jersey, not sure). Give them a call if you are in the area and you could probably arrange to stop by and play the horns. BTW, I had the chance to play for a few minutes on a Boosey with Hagmann valves a few weeks ago. I was pleasantly impressed. The horn is very easy to play, nice response, very focused, valves work fine. Sound is not quite as thick or as large as a Bach, in my opinion, but it was a very playable horn. I expected something of a lighter weight horn, but it's not (my comments above notwithstanding); the bell seems to be a little heavier than a Bach 50, overall the horn was nice and solid, the slide worked just fine. These horns are priced affordably, I think they are in the range of just over $2,000. I would recommend them to a high school player without hesitation, and would not gripe if a student came into a lesson with one. The Rath trombones, from pictures I have seen on the website, have a more open wrap than the Boosey version. The Hagmann valves are quite exellent. However, I would not say that they surpass the Thayers in terms of openness and smooth changes from open to engaged. They have (at least the Boosey wrapped version) still a small bit of the pop as the valve is engaged, but they are nice and focused with a good deal of openness. A set of two Hagmanns with all tubing is about $500-600 less than a set of Thayers, so that's a plus. -Randy Campora ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Randy Campora, Bass Trombonist Baltimore Symphony Orchestra Peabody Conservatory of Music campora@peabody.jhu.edu 410-461-1984 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:30:57 -0700 From: Earl Needham To: FOpal@aol.com, "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dark tone Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000305202949.00c5eaa0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 02:00 AM 3/5/00 -0500, FOpal@aol.com wrote: >I play on a silver trombone and I was told that I might be playing with a >slightly brighter tone than I might want. What is a good way to build a >stronger darker tone? Thanx Sounds like they're saying your tone is bright because your trombone is silver plated. Kind of a legend. If you like your sound, keep it. Earl Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34¼25.446' W103¼12.700' (or so) Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, you breathe...) From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:40:21 -0700 (MST) From: James Scott To: Tbcwes@aol.com Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Premru Concertino Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wes- Joe Alessi recorded it on his latest CD, "At The End of the Century", which is available from the ITA. I highly recommend the recording - great music played at the highest level. Jim Scott On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 Tbcwes@aol.com wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I might find a recording of the Premru Concertino? > > -Wes > From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:28:52 EST From: FOpal@aol.com To: trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu Subject: Bach 42 or Conn 88 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've decided that the only two real models I am considering now are the Bach 42 and the Conn88 models. Can anyone tell me what their opinions are? Which do you like better etc. Thanx Frank Opal From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:38:08 -0600 From: "Lawrence Borden" To: , "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Davis Schumann and the Angular Trombone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal, I just happen to own one of the original angular trombones. It is an interesting beast and I most recently "played" it with the Nashville Symphony when we "lip-synced" our on field performance of the national anthem for the Tennessee Titan's first game in the new stadium. It is quite a piece of trombone history and represents a fine understanding of physiology, but the advent of the F-attachment made it unnecessary. I will say that the mechanical advantage of the angled slide is amazing. Sixth position is an easy shift and seventh is not a stretch. No wonder it was seen as an advantage for a straight horn. Larry Lawrence Borden Nashville Symphony Orchestra Vanderbilt University office: (615) 322-7651 home: (615) 255-4191 fax: (615) 259-2753 email: Lawrence.Borden@Home.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu [mailto:owner-trombone-l@lists.missouri.edu]On Behalf Of Hal Starkey Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 8:34 PM To: Trombones and related issues forum. Subject: Re: Slide/Right Arm On March 3, 2000 Beth Lewis wrote- I've noticed that some professional trombonists hold their instruments so that they are pointed slightly to their right (by turning their heads slightly), presumably to better facilitate the natural throw of the arm (i.e., extending the right arm slightly to the right seems to be more natural for us than the usual practice--straight to the front). I've also noticed many college students who did something like this, except that the trombone itself was always angled away from their faces (how one plays like this is not clear to me...). So my question here is, does anyone know if playing with the head turned to the right slightly as some pros do has any potential pitfuls? _________________________ Hi Beth and Everyone- I think it was in the 1950's a trombonist by the name of Davis Schuman concocted an instrument known as the "angular trombone." What he did was to have a straight trombone slide slightly angled to the right. The reasoning being - there is somewhat better virtuosity or technique (or something) with the arm extending that direction. I don't know about anatomy, but it does seem the arm goes out farther to the side than it does out front. It sounds awkward to me! His mouthpiece was straight and the angle started at the shank. I don't know if anyone else had one or if these were ever marketed. My only knowledge of the horn is from a picture I once saw of it on a old LP cover featuring Mr. Schuman. It was hard to tell how the thing worked. Personally, I play straight ahead and set my music stand to the right. And I don't think I know anyone that plays with their head turned to the right...............or left. Hal From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:07 2000 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:45:41 -0600 From: Chris Waage To: Trombone-L Subject: Re: Bach 42 or Conn 88 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The best thing to do is to play both and see which instrument fits YOU the best. Our opinions are just that - ours. I personally like Bachs, but I have several good friends who prefer Conns. We both get the job done. Chris >I've decided that the only two real models I am considering now are the Bach >42 and the Conn88 models. Can anyone tell me what their opinions are? Which >do you like better etc. Thanx > >Frank Opal _____________________________________________ Chris Waage basstbn@waageworks.com Visit the Mouthpiece Exchange at http://www.waageworks.com _____________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Mar 06 07:30:08 2000 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:35:39 -0500 (EST) From: Beth Lewis To: Earl Needham Cc: "Trombones and related issues forum." Subject: Re: Dark tone Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All this talk of equipment is neglecting a big (huge) factor: one's own tonal concept. If you think a dark sound (and practice!), you will eventually get it, or at least be a lot closer than you were. When I was playing a King 4B (usually dubbed "bright") I was told that I sounded like I was playing a Bach, which I assume was because everyone I played with and listened to (even my teacher) played Bachs or similar instruments. Of course, trying to make a peashooter sound teutonic at FF would be a bit of stretch, but within slightly more reasonable parameters we have a lot of leeway. Beth Lewis On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Earl Needham wrote: > At 02:00 AM 3/5/00 -0500, FOpal@aol.com wrote: > >I play on a silver trombone and I was told that I might be playing with a > >slightly brighter tone than I might want. What is a good way to build a > >stronger darker tone? Thanx > > Sounds like they're saying your tone is bright because your > trombone is silver plated. Kind of a legend. If you like your sound, keep it. > > Earl > > > Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk N34º25.446' W103º12.700' (or so) > > Pet peeve: breath is a noun, breathe is a verb (When you take a breath, > you breathe...) > >